As a percentage. I said that in the first sentence.
The poor person pays a larger percentage of income in total taxes than the super-rich. This includes all federal, state, and local taxes. This is true. Look it up.
It's not true at all... lol. You look it up and prove it.
I already have. This is well known to economists.
Look it up yourself. You would never trust my sources anyway.
Going to be fun watching the millennial toddlers shock when they discover what's going to need to happen when 200 million electric cars hit the electric grid.... lol...
It will be kind of like what happened when 200 million air conditioners hit the grid. Nothing.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Monday said she thinks that there is an urgency needed in addressing man-made climate change, warning that it will “destroy the planet” in…
It's not a Russia-style organized cabal. But we do have tremendous influence vested in a few unelected billionaire power brokers.
I don't know if you can yet call it an oligarchy, but it's getting close. For instance, if Jeff Bezos wants to talk to the president, the president will take the call. Most house members don't have that kind of power. A senator probably does. So I'd put the power of American oligarchs today at roughly the same as a senator. Except the oligarch never has to worry about getting elected.
eh I just can't get worked up about billionaire political influence. there are no billionaire senators or governors. politics is a terrible job so they stay out. I suspect there used to be far more billionaire types in government than now. Who wants all that garbage? Do bezos or musk really care?
And look at our presidents. Bush1 and 2 are the only aristocrats among them. Clinton was bubba, obama was a total outsider, Trump was elected by the...the...the...let's say lower educated and middle class. Biden never had any money until he left office. Some rich types have attempted to buy offices and mostly failed.
just talking to potus isn't meaningful unless it starts turning into policy.
I've been reading a lot of biographies of US presidents....let me say unequivocally that the past was far, far, far more run by billionaires and corruption than today.
You are doing a stunning job of arguing against yourself.
The point is that the billionaires can get the politicians to do what they want them to do. So, yes, why in the world would they want to take a crappy job, run the risk of losing elections, etc. when they can simply buy whoever sits in the office?
And, stating that "just talking to potus isn't meaningful unless it starts turning into policy." shows a naivety that is almost beyond belief. Do you honestly believe that the billionaires access the POTUS and members of congress just because they are such pleasant conversationalists? Seriously, agip, I almost think you are joking.
The Fat dude is right about this stuff. And it could hardly be more obvious.
eh I just can't get worked up about billionaire political influence. there are no billionaire senators or governors. politics is a terrible job so they stay out. I suspect there used to be far more billionaire types in government than now. Who wants all that garbage? Do bezos or musk really care?
And look at our presidents. Bush1 and 2 are the only aristocrats among them. Clinton was bubba, obama was a total outsider, Trump was elected by the...the...the...let's say lower educated and middle class. Biden never had any money until he left office. Some rich types have attempted to buy offices and mostly failed.
just talking to potus isn't meaningful unless it starts turning into policy.
I've been reading a lot of biographies of US presidents....let me say unequivocally that the past was far, far, far more run by billionaires and corruption than today.
You are doing a stunning job of arguing against yourself.
The point is that the billionaires can get the politicians to do what they want them to do. So, yes, why in the world would they want to take a crappy job, run the risk of losing elections, etc. when they can simply buy whoever sits in the office?
And, stating that "just talking to potus isn't meaningful unless it starts turning into policy." shows a naivety that is almost beyond belief. Do you honestly believe that the billionaires access the POTUS and members of congress just because they are such pleasant conversationalists? Seriously, agip, I almost think you are joking.
The Fat dude is right about this stuff. And it could hardly be more obvious.
ok then show me some pro-billionaire legislation that is caused by a billionaire talking to potus.
or show me legislation that would have been passed but for a head to head btween a billionaire and potus.
Going to be fun watching the millennial toddlers shock when they discover what's going to need to happen when 200 million electric cars hit the electric grid.... lol...
It will be kind of like what happened when 200 million air conditioners hit the grid. Nothing.
You obviously know nothing about the grid.
If you were more clever you'd realize that all of those air conditioners are still on the grid and the grid hasn't got much better. Power outages in summer time are a common occurrence even now. Surely adding 200 million cars to the grid will have zero impact.
Much like every other idea liberals have ever had... none of them have thought cancelling oil as fast as possible through.
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They got a tax cut in 2017 and paid $800 in federal tax and got a $1900 tax return and they all went bananas that their taxes went up.
That's true. Liberal media successfully convinced 80% of the country that their taxes went up when they actually went down. And those whose tax bill went up, due to the SALT cap, were higher income earners or wealthier homeowners.
Hilariously, the only part of this "tax cut for the rich" the Democrats earnestly tried to "fix," i.e. the only part that made it into the final version of BBB, was repealing SALT cap... i.e. the only part that raised taxes on the wealthy.
Says the guy triggered by mathematical facts he doesn't like...
You are also a moron, and you are so dumb you don't even know why I'm calling you a moron. Think really hard and maybe you'll get it. No, on second thought, you won't because you're a moron.
You should run for office you've got the AOC demeanor down pat. But you probably just want to sleep with me.
They got a tax cut in 2017 and paid $800 in federal tax and got a $1900 tax return and they all went bananas that their taxes went up.
That's true. Liberal media successfully convinced 80% of the country that their taxes went up when they actually went down. And those whose tax bill went up, due to the SALT cap, were higher income earners or wealthier homeowners.
Hilariously, the only part of this "tax cut for the rich" the Democrats earnestly tried to "fix," i.e. the only part that made it into the final version of BBB, was repealing SALT cap... i.e. the only part that raised taxes on the wealthy.
This was Trump's most brilliant move ever. He has a genius for revenge. In the most liberal blue states they have high state taxes and high property taxes. By capping these particular deductions at 10K he effectively raised taxes on his enemies while the states with lower property and state taxes were not really effected and had net lower taxes. Winning! Thus tax cuts for his supporters and tax hikes for his detractors.
Greta Thunberg is The World's most knowledgeable person on this subject NOT AOC
She's legal now so the media has completely fallen out of love with her. They liked her when she was 16 and look 9. Now that's she's of age and still looks 9 she's just creepy.
Greta Thunberg is The World's most knowledgeable person on this subject NOT AOC
She's legal now so the media has completely fallen out of love with her. They liked her when she was 16 and look 9. Now that's she's of age and still looks 9 she's just creepy.
You are doing a stunning job of arguing against yourself.
The point is that the billionaires can get the politicians to do what they want them to do. So, yes, why in the world would they want to take a crappy job, run the risk of losing elections, etc. when they can simply buy whoever sits in the office?
And, stating that "just talking to potus isn't meaningful unless it starts turning into policy." shows a naivety that is almost beyond belief. Do you honestly believe that the billionaires access the POTUS and members of congress just because they are such pleasant conversationalists? Seriously, agip, I almost think you are joking.
The Fat dude is right about this stuff. And it could hardly be more obvious.
ok then show me some pro-billionaire legislation that is caused by a billionaire talking to potus.
or show me legislation that would have been passed but for a head to head btween a billionaire and potus.
You can't be that dumb, agip. You really can't be.
You never heard of tax cuts that favor the rich? Never witnessed a stadium built on the backs of taxpayers so that the billionaires don't have to fork over for it? Never saw a major corporation get massive tax breaks to set up shop in an area - tax breaks that are not available to the little guy?
Seriously, agip?
Honestly, dude, I say this with all due respect. The notion that billionaires do not have enormous say in legislation - a level of say that is commensurate with their billions rather than commensurate with their status as one single vote - doesn't even come close to passing the laugh test.
You know how Trump laughs at the Trumpettes? I know you do because you point it out all the time. Well, with 100% certainly, the billionaires of this country would be laughing their asses off at you if they ever read posts like the one above.
ok then show me some pro-billionaire legislation that is caused by a billionaire talking to potus.
or show me legislation that would have been passed but for a head to head btween a billionaire and potus.
You can't be that dumb, agip. You really can't be.
You never heard of tax cuts that favor the rich? Never witnessed a stadium built on the backs of taxpayers so that the billionaires don't have to fork over for it? Never saw a major corporation get massive tax breaks to set up shop in an area - tax breaks that are not available to the little guy?
Seriously, agip?
Honestly, dude, I say this with all due respect. The notion that billionaires do not have enormous say in legislation - a level of say that is commensurate with their billions rather than commensurate with their status as one single vote - doesn't even come close to passing the laugh test.
You know how Trump laughs at the Trumpettes? I know you do because you point it out all the time. Well, with 100% certainly, the billionaires of this country would be laughing their asses off at you if they ever read posts like the one above.
I think you are conflating businesses with billionaires. One of government's jobs is to help businesses thrive. A public stadium can help that happen (in theory). So can enticing a big company to set up shop in your jurisdiction.
But that's to help a company, not a billionaire. because you want the jobs. Not unreasonable.
Look I get what you are saying but I just don't think 'billionaires' have much pull in DC. Big business certainly does. But individual billionaires? For what? And how exactly do you push a bill through congress just because a billionaire wants it? That;s not how DC works.
good news on organized labor right now - amazon and starbucks have had unions form among their workers. great stuff. not a coincidence that when the Rs were kicked out of DC and Dems took charge, labor started collecting its power.
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