It's official. Trump won the shutdown just as I predicted.
1. He did not get the blame for it. Schumer did.
2. He did not do a deal on DACA.
The old playbook isn't working against Trump.
It's official. Trump won the shutdown just as I predicted.
1. He did not get the blame for it. Schumer did.
2. He did not do a deal on DACA.
The old playbook isn't working against Trump.
DiscoGary wrote:
It's official. Trump won the shutdown just as I predicted.
1. He did not get the blame for it. Schumer did.
2. He did not do a deal on DACA.
The old playbook isn't working against Trump.
lol. Dear Delusional Gary,
Try this google search:
polls who is to blame for shutdown
Polls show Trump and Dems in Congress EQUALLY get blame for shutdown. Congressional Repubs get smaller share of blame. So right off the bat, you're wrong, period.
But if you combine Trump and Congressional Repubs, they get more blame together than do Dems.
Lastly, Americans overwhelmingly support DACA or the basics of letting "dreamers" stay, so not "doing a deal on DACA" is only a "win" with this hard-core nativist base.
Can you or Trump EVER tell the truth. Are you guys literally incapable of stating a fact??
I think so.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/01/carr_scandal_ridden_fbi_must_be_abolished?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflowTmothy Foyle wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Oh, and for all our liberal friends who come here to hear the other side... you need to know that the evidence is showing that there is a "secret society" within the FBI which formed the day after Trump won, with the explicit intention of undermining his presidency.
This scandal is waaaaaay worse than Watergate.
In fact there are at least a half dozen Democrat scandals right now way worse than Watergate.
This ^
THIS ^ !!
THIS ^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLswers . . . a hardcore conservative tabloid that filed for bankruptcy last month. That is your "source."
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/01/carr_scandal_ridden_fbi_must_be_abolished?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflowTmothy Foyle wrote:
This ^
THIS ^ !!
THIS ^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well no wonder he's calling for the abolition of the FBI. A boatload of corrupt Republicans are about to get charged with treason, RICO, and other high crimes against the United States of America!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/24/politics/mueller-investigation-analysis/index.html
Gary, I have a question for you and your fellow right wingers:
"Dreamers" are good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military. They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own -- brought in by parents at young age. Does anybody really want to throw them out? Really!?
If you answer "No," (you don't want to throw them out), then don't you think NOT getting a "deal on DACA" is bad and not a "win" ? And wouldn't you think that using the lives/future of these young, good, educated, accomplished people who have not done anything wrong as a bargaining chip would bad taste and immoral?
Howie Carr! very funny.
Got anything from Sean Hannity?
Yo Trumptards.
Roses are red,
tacos are enjoyable,
don't blame Mexicans,
'cause you're unemployable.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Timothy Foyle wrote:
Ok. So who is in charge of the DEEP STATE? Does someone in the DEEP STATE tell the FBI Secret Society what to do? Who is in charge? Who is in charge?!?
Hillary, of course! Didn't you know she runs it while on book tour?
Timothy Foyle wrote:
Here, let me ask you a simple question. Are you able to detect, in any way, who or what the DEEP STATE is?
It's whatever they claim it to be. Today it is some sliver of a fact, tomorrow another. Since there is no yesterday or tomorrow with Trump logic.
1) Re-worked antisemitic press conspiracy
2) Some know-it-all puppet master.
3) Science conspires to do something-or-other I have yet to figure out. Because you know how bent on ruling the world those scientists are. I just saw that movie last night!
It's all real!!!
...
Exactly! Finally someone understands. You should be scared. You should be VERY scared! THEY are potentially everywhere.
Beware the DEEP STATE.
Serious Lee wrote:
Serious Post wrote:
Never said anything about pics lying.
BTW - you come across as a dipshit in your post.
You were called a Trumpkin and your response is dipshit. Why do those photos bother you so much?
Eewwwww! Yuck!!!!!!!
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/01/carr_scandal_ridden_fbi_must_be_abolished?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflowTmothy Foyle wrote:
This ^
THIS ^ !!
THIS ^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes! YES!!! This ^ is it!!!
And anyone who STILL does not get is a sheeple!
Rep. Pat Meehan (R-Pa.) denied allegations that he sexually harassed a young female staffer and blamed Obamacare for some of his behavior that she perceived as hostile.
LOL . . . typical of a pervert Republican. Their perversion is someone else's fault.
Timothy Foyle wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Hillary, of course! Didn't you know she runs it while on book tour?
It's whatever they claim it to be. Today it is some sliver of a fact, tomorrow another. Since there is no yesterday or tomorrow with Trump logic.
1) Re-worked antisemitic press conspiracy
2) Some know-it-all puppet master.
3) Science conspires to do something-or-other I have yet to figure out. Because you know how bent on ruling the world those scientists are. I just saw that movie last night!
It's all real!!!
...
Exactly! Finally someone understands. You should be scared. You should be VERY scared! THEY are potentially everywhere.
Beware the DEEP STATE.
Interesting how my post was entirely misinterpreted. English as a second language astroturfer? Or, maybe it was me?
Meanwhile, fascist gotta be fascist:
Donald Trump for asking then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe last year how he voted in the 2016 presidential election,
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Howie Carr! very funny.
Got anything from Sean Hannity?
Yes, quite. I don't listed to Hannity, Howie's much funnier.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Timothy Foyle wrote:
Exactly! Finally someone understands. You should be scared. You should be VERY scared! THEY are potentially everywhere.
Beware the DEEP STATE.
Interesting how my post was entirely misinterpreted. English as a second language astroturfer? Or, maybe it was me?
Meanwhile, fascist gotta be fascist:
Donald Trump for asking then-acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe last year how he voted in the 2016 presidential election,
Try to get a handle on yourself, dude.
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THEY are coming!
I have a few questions:
Can I join the DEEP STATE?
What is the membership fee?
Is there an initiation?
Do they have fun parties?
Yawners wrote:
This is handy stuff:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/24/your-guide-to-the-anti-fbi-conspiracy-theories-rippling-through-conservative-media/?utm_term=.e4cc8e25f6f0
The GOP playbook is simple, because it caters to simpletons. You just have to browse through rightwing media (both mainstream and garage-band) to understand the clear anticipation to negative upcoming events. When it became clear Trump would win the nomination, they suddenly got on board and started twisting certain angles to make him appear to be a reasonable person, when before they just joked about him. When Mueller was appointed, they cheered because he’s a Republican, but then did a 180 and called him a liberal puppet when it became evident he was actually doing his job. Now we are learning Trump really disliked certain senior FBI officials and asked for their removal, and what is the right-wing media response? The FBI is all bad and probably needs to be shut down. I guess they quickly forgot all about Comey’s last second push to get Trump elected. Amazing. Left-leaning media has editiorial bias too and tend to focus on specific angles to cover, but reporting conspiracies - not so much.
truthseakr wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Sessions and Comey interviewed. Trump is now on the list.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
And after Mueller finds no collusion...
He might not find collusion (conspiracy). I think the chances of that are pretty low though at this point, but that IS the hardest of the things against him to get nailed down.
In order of probability:
1) Money Laundering and Obstruction of Justice tied for first place.
2) Perjury (if he actually talks to Mueller without some huge ridiculous restrictions...Trump just can not tell the truth, and it not suit him to tell the truth here because that would incriminate himself, so he will lie. That lie will be discovered and proven, so Perjury will be the charge.
3) Conspiracy against the United States. I believe that he has done this, but we will have to see if there's enough evidence to charge him with it. IF there isn't, I will state that he is innocent of that, and I won't even say that we all know he did it...I will simply accept the ruling of the investigators.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
truthseakr wrote:
And after Mueller finds no collusion...
He might not find collusion (conspiracy). I think the chances of that are pretty low though at this point, but that IS the hardest of the things against him to get nailed down.
In order of probability:
1) Money Laundering and Obstruction of Justice tied for first place.
2) Perjury (if he actually talks to Mueller without some huge ridiculous restrictions...Trump just can not tell the truth, and it not suit him to tell the truth here because that would incriminate himself, so he will lie. That lie will be discovered and proven, so Perjury will be the charge.
3) Conspiracy against the United States. I believe that he has done this, but we will have to see if there's enough evidence to charge him with it. IF there isn't, I will state that he is innocent of that, and I won't even say that we all know he did it...I will simply accept the ruling of the investigators.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
You BELIEVE he has committed conspiracy? Based on what evidence?