There are clips of his kid Baron teaching advanced college math. he’s a freshman. to portray the Trumps as stupid, or some variation of, is a non starter. Nobody on this site, intellectually speaking of the economy, can approach what Trump has could put on his resume. He’s earned his stripes. Now we let him go to work. China will not rule the World economically. We will and Liberation Day was yesterday.
Post these clips. It will be an easy win for you.
How is that an easy win? One family member is smart, so another family member is also smart?
Jimmy Carter’s performance at the Naval Academy didn’t seem to show up in Billy’s genetics, and I don’t think a lot of the talk surrounding Bill Clinton’s IQ, general talent, and academic achievements were much evidence of Roger’s genius, although some may claim that the two have shared other tendencies. Thomas Lincoln fathered a son, Abe, who learned surveying and law (largely self-taught), was acknowledged by many of his peers as the brightest among them, and diligently worked to master the geometry and proofs of Euclid. His father was an unambitious illiterate who disparaged reading specifically and education generally.
If anyone hasn't read 1984 yet, I highly recommend it.
Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins next to a ticker showing the Dow down 1,200 points: "We are really, really excited, and very grateful for President Trump's leadership."
Is it an overstatement to say that ANY employee that ever says, "We're grateful for our boss' leadership" should be fired by SOMEONE on the spot ? Or maybe at least stoned....a bit?
Light at the end of the tunnel. Finally our national legislature is waking up.
Senators @ChuckGrassley (R) and @MariaCantwell (D) just introduced a bill to reassert Congress’s power over tariffs. —President must notify Congress on new tariffs within 48 hours of imposition. —Congress must approve them within 60 days or they expire.
I don’t see how they’ll get a veto-proof majority of Congress to go against Trump’s mission priority
Will the tariffs work? Certainly not if we fall into a recession. However, it seems to be an attempt. We have to try something at some point before it's lights out.
I want my 401K to keep going up 12% per year also, but at $60T (which could be here in 10-15 years at our current trajectory), our debt at new higher interest rates will be untenable. Someone give me the playbook here that doesn't end in a spot worse than we are today.
“What is your plan?” is a reasonable enough question.
“It seems to be an attempt” makes some sense in light of that, but given that it does not appear “likely” to you to work, you must realize that half-baked attempts to solve a problem can not only fail to solve the original problem but also create new and worse problems.
Even though the stock market hit is one negative, it’s not the only one and might not even be the worst of them.
And when Mike Johnson says he believes we should trust the President, he’s saying in effect that we should trust the reality TV guy who ran 3 casinos into the ground and, in his Liberation Day speech, pronounced “antibiotic” with the middle syllable as “bee.”
He could turn his family money into halfway decent real estate returns by playing things a bit shady and shafting contractors, and by leveraging enormous debt and creating a personal brand that was more or less a Potemkin Village of success. Then his brand got a reboot from a television producer’s vision. The guy has a talent for mining grievance and benefiting from a lot of his fellow Americans’ reasonable dissatisfaction with government.
That doesn’t mean he knows how to govern or how to develop economic policy.
Light at the end of the tunnel. Finally our national legislature is waking up.
Senators @ChuckGrassley (R) and @MariaCantwell (D) just introduced a bill to reassert Congress’s power over tariffs. —President must notify Congress on new tariffs within 48 hours of imposition. —Congress must approve them within 60 days or they expire.
I was going to say that this will be a total nonstarter with the House, but I think I could be very wrong about that. Some red Congressional districts are going to be blasted by the tariffs, and their Representatives may vote for a bill like this, just out of self-preservation.
When you look at all the modern day lying of the Trump propaganda arm today. Perhaps the most lying of the lies is that Trump is fixing a disaster of an economy that was going to implode. Trump inherited an economy that was humming and the envy of the world. I wonder if this gaslighting is working on the base.... It is truly bizarro.
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Light at the end of the tunnel. Finally our national legislature is waking up.
Senators @ChuckGrassley (R) and @MariaCantwell (D) just introduced a bill to reassert Congress’s power over tariffs. —President must notify Congress on new tariffs within 48 hours of imposition. —Congress must approve them within 60 days or they expire.
I was going to say that this will be a total nonstarter with the House, but I think I could be very wrong about that. Some red Congressional districts are going to be blasted by the tariffs, and their Representatives may vote for a bill like this, just out of self-preservation.
I don't think the bill will get to the floor of the House...the speaker is trump's wingman and he will kill this thing before it gets through the front door.
What I do think is that it is a shot across the bow of the White House, telling them that they need to keep an eye on the grass roots or the Ds will win massive majorities in the House and maybe possibly but probably not the senate.
It's all dancing, positioning, threats. Good to see the congress at least stepping onto the playing field.
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Will the tariffs work? Certainly not if we fall into a recession. However, it seems to be an attempt. We have to try something at some point before it's lights out.
I want my 401K to keep going up 12% per year also, but at $60T (which could be here in 10-15 years at our current trajectory), our debt at new higher interest rates will be untenable. Someone give me the playbook here that doesn't end in a spot worse than we are today.
“What is your plan?” is a reasonable enough question.
“It seems to be an attempt” makes some sense in light of that, but given that it does not appear “likely” to you to work, you must realize that half-baked attempts to solve a problem can not only fail to solve the original problem but also create new and worse problems.
Even though the stock market hit is one negative, it’s not the only one and might not even be the worst of them.
And when Mike Johnson says he believes we should trust the President, he’s saying in effect that we should trust the reality TV guy who ran 3 casinos into the ground and, in his Liberation Day speech, pronounced “antibiotic” with the middle syllable as “bee.”
He could turn his family money into halfway decent real estate returns by playing things a bit shady and shafting contractors, and by leveraging enormous debt and creating a personal brand that was more or less a Potemkin Village of success. Then his brand got a reboot from a television producer’s vision. The guy has a talent for mining grievance and benefiting from a lot of his fellow Americans’ reasonable dissatisfaction with government.
That doesn’t mean he knows how to govern or how to develop economic policy.
If that isn’t the absolute truth, it’s a whole lot closer to it than anyone here can put on the table. No doubt some anti trumper has dig deep into the details, but I don’t pay that close attention. what I do know is that Wharton is top shelf and Trump was on top of that shelf. His delivery you may not like but his knowledge is unmatched.
So, you admit that you're just going to believe what you want to believe because you're in a cult and no amount of facts could convince you otherwise?
Trump's performance at Wharton was painstakingly detailed for you earlier. Your response was to attack the messengers and ignore the message. That's the sign of somebody who is completely detached from reality. Have you considered psychiatric help?
Pretty sure that s/he has been confirmed as a troll, though a little subtler than SV.
The best response to trollage is none. Starve a troll today.
I was going to say that this will be a total nonstarter with the House, but I think I could be very wrong about that. Some red Congressional districts are going to be blasted by the tariffs, and their Representatives may vote for a bill like this, just out of self-preservation.
I don't think the bill will get to the floor of the House...the speaker is trump's wingman and he will kill this thing before it gets through the front door.
What I do think is that it is a shot across the bow of the White House, telling them that they need to keep an eye on the grass roots or the Ds will win massive majorities in the House and maybe possibly but probably not the senate.
It's all dancing, positioning, threats. Good to see the congress at least stepping onto the playing field.
you are being overly credulous if you hear a leader, when the country already has inflation, saying i am doing massive across board tariffs, plus laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers, and your antennae don't immediately go up and freak out about recession risk. just cut out the blue vs. red crap, or the insane trump loyalty cult. if you heard that blurb of facts would you think we were in trouble or not.
if we consider the loyalty cult,..........you are betting on a man with heterodox ideas who already put the country in the health and economy ditch in 2020. who has multiple corporate bankruptcies. many failed companies besides that. convicted of fraud. liable for defamation. constant hyperbole. i get you folks see this as character attacks you disagree with, but if i am betting on a horse to try new things, i don't bet on a proven loser.
"That" is what you want to bet on? at some point here stop the "own the libs" insanity and wake up on the crappy policy bets you're placing on someone with a history of snake oil issues.
I believe there is a not-wholly-unreasonable take about building something out of tariffs and the possibility of negotiation strategy and tactics (see, for instance, the best points from Oren Cass), but there are way too many holes and maybes in that line of thinking for my taste when you consider the implications of it being wrong.
Without going fully conspiracy-thinking about it, I think Hanania is closer to the mark. Hanania can be off-base, and sometimes contemptibly so, but he’s bright and has some decent points. I see this as, at least partially, one of his decent takes.
“Authoritarian leaders do not care about the prosperity of the country. If these tariffs stick, it is a massive increase in Trump’s personal power. Businesses will be desperate for exceptions, any jobs created would be dependent on Trump’s policies. The corruption is the point.”
You don’t have to carry that out to full-on corruption or the most nefarious sort of authoritarian regime for it to make sense when you consider Trump’s personal ethics, his admiration for authoritarian leaders, the way a lot of his decisions have appeared to be for sale, and the way the exception game has appeared to be developing since he took office.
1) The economy. Lots of people care about the economy.
2) A million other things. Lots of people care about none of them.
So......THANK GOD he's bad on the economy !!!
I say this only half-kiddingly. Actually, less than half. If the only thing that will meaningfully weaken the autocrat party in '26 and '28 is a bad economy now, so be it.
you are being overly credulous if you hear a leader, when the country already has inflation, saying i am doing massive across board tariffs, plus laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers, and your antennae don't immediately go up and freak out about recession risk. just cut out the blue vs. red crap, or the insane trump loyalty cult. if you heard that blurb of facts would you think we were in trouble or not.
if we consider the loyalty cult,..........you are betting on a man with heterodox ideas who already put the country in the health and economy ditch in 2020. who has multiple corporate bankruptcies. many failed companies besides that. convicted of fraud. liable for defamation. constant hyperbole. i get you folks see this as character attacks you disagree with, but if i am betting on a horse to try new things, i don't bet on a proven loser.
"That" is what you want to bet on? at some point here stop the "own the libs" insanity and wake up on the crappy policy bets you're placing on someone with a history of snake oil issues.
Agreed. The Biden/Harris followers were in a loyalty cult
There are clips of his kid Baron teaching advanced college math. he’s a freshman. to portray the Trumps as stupid, or some variation of, is a non starter. Nobody on this site, intellectually speaking of the economy, can approach what Trump has could put on his resume. He’s earned his stripes. Now we let him go to work. China will not rule the World economically. We will and Liberation Day was yesterday.
i mean do any of y'all stop and look at say, how bad millei's argentina is? as in your buddy gifting the chain saw? argentina's inflation is 66%!!!!!! and unemployment is 7.7%.
it's kind of like none of you asks what it's like to live in russia or hungary and politically disagree with the leaders there. you just like watching some authoritarian leader gay- and woke-bash. and don't consider maybe those are signs of countries with democracy issues. free speech and running against the leader shouldn't be illegal. if it is, that's not your pal.
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