Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Four. wrote:

Meza GOAT wrote:

Three separate photographed stops and he pisses all over the world record! clearly the GOAT.

Four.

Two in MarathonInvestigation.com first article, one in the second and now the old "stopping to stretch" trick.

And he pissed all over the world record.

And it's all for fun lol. wrote:

Wasn't there an article somewhere that said not only does he talk the talk but he walks the walk and is a champion marathon runner lol, something like that.

On this video at 0:19 ("Frank Meza's the real deal. You know, he walks the walk after he talks the talk.")

And it's all for fun lol. wrote:

Wasn't there an article somewhere that said not only does he talk the talk but he walks the walk and is a champion marathon runner lol, something like that.

yeah, it looks like he bikes the bike as well.

These trolls such as glooper and the other twerp sure are sensitive snowflakes, back in the day we had muçh higher quality trolling to deal with.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

" I’ve realized my problem is that I don’t hydrate properly."

Yeah Frank, that's your problem.

Yes he has mysterious hydration problems, yet runs his races with more layers than an eskimo and doesn't sweat.

Runner in pic ending -35 crosses the 10k mat in 40:26, with FM stretching in the background. FM crosses the mat at 41:07.

DM.. wrote:

Impressive find on the series of pix! Would be interesting estimate the time he stood around there with the fake stretching. Between that and the two other stops, he probably lost at least 5 min and still broke the world record!

Only thing missing is him on a bike.

I didn't see where the LA marathon readdressed Derek after the video evidence so perhaps they will man-up and DQ him for good. Its only been 2 days.

That's right - hydration problems. wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

" I’ve realized my problem is that I don’t hydrate properly."

Yeah Frank, that's your problem.

Yes he has mysterious hydration problems, yet runs his races with more layers than an eskimo and doesn't sweat.

I wonder if gets the irony?

He pisses me off. wrote:

Four. wrote:

Four.

Two in MarathonInvestigation.com first article, one in the second and now the old "stopping to stretch" trick.

And he pissed all over the world record.

Correction, four that we know of.

It's just before the 10km timing strip and photographer. I stated looking there because I went down a rabbit hole of ID'ing the runner in orange. Once I had him worked out and compared their splits, they were only side by side at 10km.

It's clear FM knew exactly where he'd be photographed and jumped on the course shortly before every official photographer. He also got his chip, attached to him or someone else, across every other non-photographed timing strip at the exact right times to look like a steady, blazing run. The logistics are incredible.

His only mistake was to get the fields of view wrong for the 25km autocam and the 10km photographer. I don't believe the "emerging from the crowd" shots from 20km were official (though happy to be corrected), so he got very unlucky there as well.

Sky's the limit. wrote:

He pisses me off. wrote:

Two in MarathonInvestigation.com first article, one in the second and now the old "stopping to stretch" trick.

And he pissed all over the world record.

Correction, four that we know of.

The 2nd location in the first article is the same as the one in the latest. I just found the evidence to 100% prove it was him.

We have 3 locations at 2019 LA.

doubler wrote:

Canadian Running missed a lot.

The evidence was not that he was off the course. It’s that he never appeared on the course at the locations that he stepped off.

It’s that he was off the course for two long periods of time after stating that he stepped off for a few seconds.

And, of course, the Phoenix video evidence.

But, his statements and this incomplete article practically forces me to follow up to address his response.

derek, you are a genius.

great.

The silence from the owners of this site is really puzzling me now. I do not want to be critical because I like them and understand that stuff goes on we don't know about.

Lol Frank was stretching for at 40-50 seconds on the side of the course before the 10K mat based on clock times of runners who appears in the stretching pics.

I love it that Frank says: " I’m pretty old school", after all his sophisticated cheating, wearing two watches and meticulously judging his timing mats.

By old school perhaps he means he cycles between his segments on a Penny Farthing...

If someone was bored and had the time and the initiative, the way to really nail him would be to look at the places where we knew he entered the course, find some local businesses or places where there are street cams and then get a hold of some webcam footage from the approximate time and date that we new Frank was in that area. It'd be awesome to get some video or pics of him getting out of a car to go to the latest course checkpoint to hit a mat.

That said, I know it's a ton of work and I don't expect anyone to do it, but I remember they got some great footage of Robert Young when he was cheating using the same methods.

Hopefully this is getting ready to blow open and gain some traction in the real world soon.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

These trolls such as glooper and the other twerp sure are sensitive snowflakes, back in the day we had muçh higher quality trolling to deal with.

Please explain how any of my posts in this thread are me trolling? Go ahead.

All that crap with the Agree moron

at the 25km mark where Derek purchased the high res photos, google maps street view shows that FM was waiting at the corner of Melrose and N Doheny, right next to a Petco.

Across the street is a hotel "Beverly Terrace Hotel". If you zoom in on a street sign, you can read "Public safety video recording in progress"

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0805365,-118.3896935,3a,15y,238.53h,91.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK1H_yH5hR7S848QobVVT7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I guess that nobody would store video over 3 months old, but in case they have an angle onto Santa Monica Blvd it would be interesting to see if that angle will show Frank walking into the intersection and waiting there before running onto the course.