I love all the arguments to prove "Roche is lying" is to just spread lies about how Roche is lying. I think all y'all have proven is that he acts dramatically and his coaching doesn't reach the exact high standards that y'all also have just made up.
Isn't it more likely (Occam's Razor) that Roche rolled his ankle again, and he wears the Hokas as lifestyle/walking shoes?
edit: replying to slap
I think Occam's Razor could go either way on this one...from Reddit:
"So to summarize... we can see David was wearing the teal hokas casually right around Grindstone 2023 DNF. Now the question is if he still has those old hokas and just happened to wear them casually in the picture of the same injury on the same foot a year and a half later."
Then add in the evidence that we know Roche misleads his followers often e.g told his followers that he did "one minute" of 4 flat pace at the end of a treadmill workout but the eventual video evidence showed he managed just 12 seconds. The clip he initially posted claiming to be 4 flat pace turned out to be a slower more comfortable pace from earlier in the workout. So it's not exactly unfathomable that he'd post a blurry 'b-roll' shot of his previous injury to gain the admiration of his followers. He could undo all the speculation by posting a high-res photo of his injury but he's already saying that the massive bike ride he did the next day reduced the swelling by 75% and I guess that's why it will look normal the next time we see it 😶
I see the image on the Grindstone Strava activity, and I see a screenshot on Reddit of his recent IG story.
They both show a swolen L ankle, but they're not remotely the same picture. Am I missing something?
The accusation seems like a totally unnecessary line of attack, that somehow has gained traction.
Thank you. I have mostly given up on this thread. It's like 3-4 guys who hate Roche for reasons that aren't entirely clear, then have a circle-jerk making up sh-t about him.
I sent the screenshot of the photo in his IG story to a friend who is a big fan of Roche's, so I have it on my computer and went back and looked and they're not even remotely close to the same photo.
Yet these morons on here are now saying that "everyone on Reddit is saying the same thing!" that's it's a fake photo when (a) that's not true, and (b) wait for it...it's the same morons who are posting on LRC.
The "mean girls" nature of this thread is pathetic. What is Roche supposed to say? He said his big, dream goal is to win Western States. Occasionally he acknowledges it's a long shot but that he is all-in and going for it and that he wants to "shoot his shot." Nothing wrong with that except to you losers. I've talked to a number of folks who find it inspiring, but whatever.
Then he goes to Big Alta and Hemming is clearly a way better 50k runner and again wait for it... Roche says so! Says he sprained his ankle but that he was already in way over his head and that it wasn't going to end well anyway. Also says he's not in Eli's class. Nothing wrong with that except to you losers (recurring theme here).
The mods were right to delete this thread. I'm popping up occasionally mainly just for the random passerby to know that 99.99% of this thread is malicious BS.
One thing I posted a few weeks ago and was never denied: my theory is that the 3-4 guys who are posting most of this lying cr-p are MAGA supporters who hate Roche because he's clearly politically liberal. It was one of my few comments that didn't get any push-back. And it follows the MAGA playbook: make up sh-t, spread it, then use the "rumors" as more proof.
The irony here is that it sure looks like Roche is getting increasingly popular. You suckers lose.
Now do the other side. The one where a couple preaches love and acceptance to such an extreme degree that whenever they’re exposed and called on their BS (Spring Energy debacle, questionable coaching practices, outlandish workout claims, potentially dropping old photos as proof of a current injury), those questioning them are automatically labeled haters. It’s the perfect defense really.
Thank you. I have mostly given up on this thread. It's like 3-4 guys who hate Roche for reasons that aren't entirely clear, then have a circle-jerk making up sh-t about him.
I sent the screenshot of the photo in his IG story to a friend who is a big fan of Roche's, so I have it on my computer and went back and looked and they're not even remotely close to the same photo.
Yet these morons on here are now saying that "everyone on Reddit is saying the same thing!" that's it's a fake photo when (a) that's not true, and (b) wait for it...it's the same morons who are posting on LRC.
The "mean girls" nature of this thread is pathetic. What is Roche supposed to say? He said his big, dream goal is to win Western States. Occasionally he acknowledges it's a long shot but that he is all-in and going for it and that he wants to "shoot his shot." Nothing wrong with that except to you losers. I've talked to a number of folks who find it inspiring, but whatever.
Then he goes to Big Alta and Hemming is clearly a way better 50k runner and again wait for it... Roche says so! Says he sprained his ankle but that he was already in way over his head and that it wasn't going to end well anyway. Also says he's not in Eli's class. Nothing wrong with that except to you losers (recurring theme here).
The mods were right to delete this thread. I'm popping up occasionally mainly just for the random passerby to know that 99.99% of this thread is malicious BS.
One thing I posted a few weeks ago and was never denied: my theory is that the 3-4 guys who are posting most of this lying cr-p are MAGA supporters who hate Roche because he's clearly politically liberal. It was one of my few comments that didn't get any push-back. And it follows the MAGA playbook: make up sh-t, spread it, then use the "rumors" as more proof.
The irony here is that it sure looks like Roche is getting increasingly popular. You suckers lose.
Now do the other side. The one where a couple preaches love and acceptance to such an extreme degree that whenever they’re exposed and called on their BS (Spring Energy debacle, questionable coaching practices, outlandish workout claims, potentially dropping old photos as proof of a current injury), those questioning them are automatically labeled haters. It’s the perfect defense really.
It’s the perfect defense for morons. Luckily we’re smarter than that
Like I said, if you have "real" evidence, share it. Otherwise shut the F up.
The real evidence has already been posted, hun. Maybe you’re not smart enough to understand?
The picture David posted in his recent Ig story aaa allegedly of his recent sprained ankle, but it was actually a picture of his sprained ankle from Grindstone 2023.
Same running shoes he wore at Grindstone 2023 that he no longer wears + no othe picture evidence of this recent “sprainl
Oh I see. Yeah the evidence is inconclusive. Not the same exact photo but does look like two different photos of the same injury. His IG photo includes shoes he doesn’t wear anymore, so that would lead me to believe that it’s from 2023
I take it back. The evidence is absolutely conclusive that David did not recently sprain his ankle at that for his recent IG story he used a picture of his sprained ankle from Grindstone 2023
Like I said, if you have "real" evidence, share it. Otherwise shut the F up.
The real evidence has already been posted, hun. Maybe you’re not smart enough to understand?
The picture David posted in his recent Ig story aaa allegedly of his recent sprained ankle, but it was actually a picture of his sprained ankle from Grindstone 2023.
Same running shoes he wore at Grindstone 2023 that he no longer wears + no othe picture evidence of this recent “sprainl
Yet these morons on here are now saying that "everyone on Reddit is saying the same thing!" that's it's a fake photo when (a) that's not true, and (b) wait for it...it's the same morons who are posting on LRC.
I love all the arguments to prove "Roche is lying" is to just spread lies about how Roche is lying. I think all y'all have proven is that he acts dramatically and his coaching doesn't reach the exact high standards that y'all also have just made up.
Never has a nothing burger tasted so empty.
Unless you’ve actually read this thread your opinion is actually what’s empty. Yes there’s a lot of stupid comments and far out accusations but there is also a lot of substance and truth mixed in. It’s messy, confusing and contradictory, just like David, but it’s not empty.
I love all the arguments to prove "Roche is lying" is to just spread lies about how Roche is lying. I think all y'all have proven is that he acts dramatically and his coaching doesn't reach the exact high standards that y'all also have just made up.
Never has a nothing burger tasted so empty.
Unless you’ve actually read this thread your opinion is actually what’s empty. Yes there’s a lot of stupid comments and far out accusations but there is also a lot of substance and truth mixed in. It’s messy, confusing and contradictory, just like David, but it’s not empty.
Naw, y'all ain't got nuthin' of substance. What, he doesn't log his warmups? His wife (goin' after the wife?) doesn't re-weigh herself before every peloton ride during pregnancy? Y'all mis-interpreted a workout goal? Y'all never twist an ankle and keep going for a while because your own body is so hopped up on adrenaline you don't even notice? Sheeete I got into a fight one time in an old cellar -- didn't know I had glass stuck in my shoulder until after I got home. That is your evidence of an intense pathological narcissism?
Snooooze feast.
Yeah he lives his life like his parents loved and supported him, I know how that can come off as weird. And he gives the same kind of attention to his coaching clients that McKenzie at the Dixie Dazzle does to me for about the same price a month. That's hardly criminal.
LOL the world is turning upside down and y'all got pitchforks for the guy who says "love you" too much and looks like a bunch of chicken bones in a ziplock bag I keep in the freeze for making stock.
Just listened to their latest podcast while doing some home renovation type stuff but unless I missed it they didn't say anything new in 90+min.. yawn. Basically the same as on Instagram/Strava. Tried to hang with Eli on the uphill but quickly realized he wasn't gonna beat him but was soo soo proud of himself for going with him, ran Eli's race and not his own, then rolled his ankle but kept going a bit, then dropped. Lots of love. Jim's the goat. He thought he was gonna try and hang with him at WS but isn't planning on doing that now (smart tbf) blabla. The usual.
Can someone do the Lord’s work and listen to their podcast they released today? Would love to hear his excuses about his “sprained ankle”…
Just listened on my run this morning. Pretty classic David. Contradicts himself over and over, “I had to drop because I sprained my ankle, I could have kept going if it was a hundred miler” “I’m not fit enough to hang with Eli, I was getting sick though” “I’m not going to win western states, I can still win western states” “I don’t like talking about myself” and then proceeds to interject about himself at every opportunity. The guy makes no sense, no wonder he couldn’t hack it as a lawyer. Other highlights include Megan talking about how she “misses patient care” even though she only graduated medical school. As an actual practicing physician I can tell you that med students have nothing to do with patient care. Another good one was them talking about installing a home security system because of comments they get online. Yeah, totally normal behavior. I’d be more afraid of “umm, no” losing his sh!t and going on rampage in the name of his savior David.