Seth Demoor is BACK baby

jonathon wrote:

Seth is saved! wrote:

I think today's title is proof you that Seth not only reads this thread but listens to the advice given (when it comes to YouTube). Someone recently explained how his videos with the most watches are related to Google searches - light bulb moment - so now he's making videos with titles with commonly searched phrases. You guys may just save Seth after all. Praise the 8 pound, 6 ounce newborn baby jesus.

I made that comment last night, and Seth's videos get posted at 5AM, so he didn't read that comment and then make the video.

I would like to think Seth read this thread, but what is our evidence thus far? He seems to have cut back on the behaviors we bash him for: his weird expressions, the egg obsession, opening/closing cabinet shots, interrupting TL (when's the last time she's been even in a video??). But that is not very definitive. He still vlogs while driving, puts shoes on his vehicle dashboard, etc.

OK, troll comment: Funny how a week or two ago Seth was asking for cash donations, and then in that pool swimming vlog he was showing off his waterproof ear buds. Do you think those are old or brand new? Oh well, it's a tax write-off I guess. I wonder if when Seth gets starbucks in a video he writes that off too! Maybe he can write off the cost of having children if they appear in enough videos.

Rust Never Sleeps wrote:

Wrong. He is a locally good runner that excels at niche events with little to no competition. He fancies himself a storyteller, fitness guru, social influencer, and portrays himself as a positive everyman. The reality is that he is a thin-skinned narcissist promoting himself as a paragon of all manner of virtue much like a televangelist. He is a largely absent father. He treats his wife as an accessory at best and an annoyance at worst. His grasp of the outside world is limited. His nutritional and training acumen are virtually non-existent with his proclamations on both topics being both ill-conceived and borderline dangerous. He is nice on camera but often lashes out against valid criticisms. If you kiss his backside, then he tolerates you. If you challenge him, he gets snarky or he runs away. Seth is all about Seth. His viewers and subscribers, The DGR Family, are just cash contributing rubes and he has very little concern for any of them.

He is not respected by anyone in the footwear industry. His large number of subscribers net him product for reviews but, some manufacturers have started to significantly curtail access to products or just straight up ignore him. His reviews are often non-sensical, arbitrary, and offer very little substantive information for the target consumer. Many brands will bring other YT influencers to product rollouts and trade shows. Guess who doesn't get a press junket? Most product seems to be provided by Runners Warehouse and Seth gets a kick back through an affiliate deal with that retailer for any sales generated by his content.

If you like his whole contrived, hyperactive, and cornpone "Awww...shucks!" act, that's fine. I can see the appeal for many. However, Seth is not an expert on training, injuries, healthy habits, family life, nor is he a particularly talented content creator. He gets some good visuals from time-to-time but most of his output is stream-of-consciousness rambling, verbal diarrhea, fallacies presented as scientific fact, hyping himself, and, as of late, begging for funds while doing utterly pointless product comparisons. Just remember this the next time you find yourself trying to recruit red blood cells, suffering from the inevitable lactic acid attack at the 20 mile mark of a marathon, or trying to replenish your glycogen stores with only nuts, eggs, and salad greens.

Rust Never Sleeps wrote:

RobDragons wrote:

So many Seth haters. :) If you put yourself out there on social media, then it is fair to take heat. However, he's a nice guy with a great family and he's a really good runner. I only have time to watch about 25% of his videos, but I really do enjoy them as a flatlander dreaming about the mountains and I think he is a respected independent voice for shoes. Sorry, I just wanted one positive post if that's even allowed. :D

Wrong. He is a locally good runner that excels at niche events with little to no competition. He fancies himself a storyteller, fitness guru, social influencer, and portrays himself as a positive everyman. The reality is that he is a thin-skinned narcissist promoting himself as a paragon of all manner of virtue much like a televangelist. He is a largely absent father. He treats his wife as an accessory at best and an annoyance at worst. His grasp of the outside world is limited. His nutritional and training acumen are virtually non-existent with his proclamations on both topics being both ill-conceived and borderline dangerous. He is nice on camera but often lashes out against valid criticisms. If you kiss his backside, then he tolerates you. If you challenge him, he gets snarky or he runs away. Seth is all about Seth. His viewers and subscribers, The DGR Family, are just cash contributing rubes and he has very little concern for any of them.

He is not respected by anyone in the footwear industry. His large number of subscribers net him product for reviews but, some manufacturers have started to significantly curtail access to products or just straight up ignore him. His reviews are often non-sensical, arbitrary, and offer very little substantive information for the target consumer. Many brands will bring other YT influencers to product rollouts and trade shows. Guess who doesn't get a press junket? Most product seems to be provided by Runners Warehouse and Seth gets a kick back through an affiliate deal with that retailer for any sales generated by his content.

If you like his whole contrived, hyperactive, and cornpone "Awww...shucks!" act, that's fine. I can see the appeal for many. However, Seth is not an expert on training, injuries, healthy habits, family life, nor is he a particularly talented content creator. He gets some good visuals from time-to-time but most of his output is stream-of-consciousness rambling, verbal diarrhea, fallacies presented as scientific fact, hyping himself, and, as of late, begging for funds while doing utterly pointless product comparisons. Just remember this the next time you find yourself trying to recruit red blood cells, suffering from the inevitable lactic acid attack at the 20 mile mark of a marathon, or trying to replenish your glycogen stores with only nuts, eggs, and salad greens.

Rust Never Sleeps wrote:

RobDragons wrote:

So many Seth haters. :) If you put yourself out there on social media, then it is fair to take heat. However, he's a nice guy with a great family and he's a really good runner. I only have time to watch about 25% of his videos, but I really do enjoy them as a flatlander dreaming about the mountains and I think he is a respected independent voice for shoes. Sorry, I just wanted one positive post if that's even allowed. :D

Wrong. He is a locally good runner that excels at niche events with little to no competition. He fancies himself a storyteller, fitness guru, social influencer, and portrays himself as a positive everyman. The reality is that he is a thin-skinned narcissist promoting himself as a paragon of all manner of virtue much like a televangelist. He is a largely absent father. He treats his wife as an accessory at best and an annoyance at worst. His grasp of the outside world is limited. His nutritional and training acumen are virtually non-existent with his proclamations on both topics being both ill-conceived and borderline dangerous. He is nice on camera but often lashes out against valid criticisms. If you kiss his backside, then he tolerates you. If you challenge him, he gets snarky or he runs away. Seth is all about Seth. His viewers and subscribers, The DGR Family, are just cash contributing rubes and he has very little concern for any of them.

He is not respected by anyone in the footwear industry. His large number of subscribers net him product for reviews but, some manufacturers have started to significantly curtail access to products or just straight up ignore him. His reviews are often non-sensical, arbitrary, and offer very little substantive information for the target consumer. Many brands will bring other YT influencers to product rollouts and trade shows. Guess who doesn't get a press junket? Most product seems to be provided by Runners Warehouse and Seth gets a kick back through an affiliate deal with that retailer for any sales generated by his content.

If you like his whole contrived, hyperactive, and cornpone "Awww...shucks!" act, that's fine. I can see the appeal for many. However, Seth is not an expert on training, injuries, healthy habits, family life, nor is he a particularly talented content creator. He gets some good visuals from time-to-time but most of his output is stream-of-consciousness rambling, verbal diarrhea, fallacies presented as scientific fact, hyping himself, and, as of late, begging for funds while doing utterly pointless product comparisons. Just remember this the next time you find yourself trying to recruit red blood cells, suffering from the inevitable lactic acid attack at the 20 mile mark of a marathon, or trying to replenish your glycogen stores with only nuts, eggs, and salad greens.

madscientist2 wrote:

Rust Never Sleeps wrote:

Wrong. He is a locally good runner that excels at niche events with little to no competition. He fancies himself a storyteller, fitness guru, social influencer, and portrays himself as a positive everyman. The reality is that he is a thin-skinned narcissist promoting himself as a paragon of all manner of virtue much like a televangelist. He is a largely absent father. He treats his wife as an accessory at best and an annoyance at worst. His grasp of the outside world is limited. His nutritional and training acumen are virtually non-existent with his proclamations on both topics being both ill-conceived and borderline dangerous. He is nice on camera but often lashes out against valid criticisms. If you kiss his backside, then he tolerates you. If you challenge him, he gets snarky or he runs away. Seth is all about Seth. His viewers and subscribers, The DGR Family, are just cash contributing rubes and he has very little concern for any of them.

He is not respected by anyone in the footwear industry. His large number of subscribers net him product for reviews but, some manufacturers have started to significantly curtail access to products or just straight up ignore him. His reviews are often non-sensical, arbitrary, and offer very little substantive information for the target consumer. Many brands will bring other YT influencers to product rollouts and trade shows. Guess who doesn't get a press junket? Most product seems to be provided by Runners Warehouse and Seth gets a kick back through an affiliate deal with that retailer for any sales generated by his content.

If you like his whole contrived, hyperactive, and cornpone "Awww...shucks!" act, that's fine. I can see the appeal for many. However, Seth is not an expert on training, injuries, healthy habits, family life, nor is he a particularly talented content creator. He gets some good visuals from time-to-time but most of his output is stream-of-consciousness rambling, verbal diarrhea, fallacies presented as scientific fact, hyping himself, and, as of late, begging for funds while doing utterly pointless product comparisons. Just remember this the next time you find yourself trying to recruit red blood cells, suffering from the inevitable lactic acid attack at the 20 mile mark of a marathon, or trying to replenish your glycogen stores with only nuts, eggs, and salad greens.

Also to add (or maybe emphasize, because your spot-on description does reflect this), Seth does not appear to be very intelligent.

Just listen critically to almost anything he says. Especially anything remotely pertaining to science, engineering, exercise physiology studies, shoe design, etc. Maybe he doesn't try to present himself as an expert on all those topics, but he presents himself as knowledgeable at least. But in reality, he's either poorly regurgitating something he thinks he once read or heard but can barely remember (see any summary of an exercise physiology study he's ever given), or else he's portraying what he thinks sounds smart but is a complete joke (see him "learning about shoe engineering and construction" by massacring a Pegasus with a Sawzall and box cutter).

Despite having a college degree he's unqualified for virtually any legitimate career at this point it seems. I mean before he went "full time" on YouTube he was like doing Uber and maybe filming weddings or something. So of course he has no actual fall back for when the YouTube well runs dry, hence his obvious desperation of late. In fact even his aptitude for running a YT channel is overstated. Would you expect someone who "cracked the YouTube algorithm" and is a self-declared "professor of YouTube" to run his channel into a tailspin and hemorrhage viewers?

Seth is an idiot masquerading as a renaissance man with multiple varied interests and fields of knowledge well beyond running. This is plain to see and I don't see how anyone would look up to that.

Also, TL is no better in this regard, at least as Seth chooses to portray her.