This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Yep, it’s ridiculous and laughable. Djokovic and Rodgers both. I mean, they were both supposed to get really sick or die. They couldn’t possibly have equivalent or better immunity than a quadruple vaxxed person! Djokovic wasn’t supposed to go on to win multiple slams, despite being denied entry to the Australian and US Opens (in 2022 no less after playing in 2021!).
Meanwhile, his hero is Kelce. Imagine that. Have you ever heard Kelce talk? Guy’s a Neanderthal. But, hey, we all need heroes.
What’s the infection fatality rate of COVID? You seem to be misunderstanding or exaggerating
Just exaggerating to make a point to all you vax or else people. But, remember, you told us none of this stuff was a “mandate.” The you go post an article about a Singapore mandate from 2022. Weird.
Bro, it could happen any day now, he has long Covid as diagnosed by Dr. Moderna Harambe. I mean, weird since his last bout of Covid (wasn’t even a bout, just a positive test) was Dec of 2021 and he won 3 of 4 grand slams last year, but Dr. Harambe has all of the answers and all of the data. Nevermind that the data going into the RCTs and VAERS is incomplete and garbage.
Dr. Harambro said he has long Covid. It must be true. 😂
Djokovic REALLY makes Harambro mad. I LOVE talking about him. Victory lap, Joker. 🇷🇸🏃🇷🇸
Djokovic last had Covid in December 2021 but hardly knew it. Went on to still dominate at world’s #1 for multiple weeks and win a bunch of slams. Still waiting for that myocarditis and autoimmunity and Crohns to kick in, lol.
Novak Djokovic is competing at the 2023 US Open after missing last year’s event due to COVID-19 restrictions barring him from being able to play at the tournament.
“Like many others, Djokovic suffered under public-health decision-making that did everything but follow the science."
"Joe Biden, by presidential proclamation, banned the entry of unvaccinated noncitizen air travelers into the country starting Nov. 8, 2021."
"Apparently unvaccinated citizens and land travelers did not pose any risk."
"And a systematic review and meta-analysis published in early 2023 in the British journal The Lancet confirmed what I and many others had long said: Natural immunity following COVID infections is real, and “the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines.”
"Public-health officials in other places — such as the United Kingdom, the European Union and Israel — created certificates to document vaccination or recovery from COVID-19 infection to facilitate travel and entry into public places.”
“But the Biden administration experts were so intent on pushing vaccination that they refused to acknowledge the existence of natural immunity following infection."
"The experts pursued this policy even though, as Anthony Fauci admitted in a journal article, vaccines against respiratory viruses like the one that causes COVID-19 usually provide “decidedly suboptimal” protection against infection and rarely produce durable protective immunity."
What’s the infection fatality rate of COVID? You seem to be misunderstanding or exaggerating
Just exaggerating to make a point to all you vax or else people. But, remember, you told us none of this stuff was a “mandate.” The you go post an article about a Singapore mandate from 2022. Weird.
Oh me oh my just a little exaggeration 🥺
That was in reply to Kobbs who wants to move to Singapore!
Obviously an authoritarian state that bans chewing gum and hangs you if you smoke weed had mandates... bro...
Dr. Harambro said he has long Covid. It must be true. 😂
Djokovic REALLY makes Harambro mad. I LOVE talking about him. Victory lap, Joker. 🇷🇸🏃🇷🇸
Djokovic last had Covid in December 2021 but hardly knew it. Went on to still dominate at world’s #1 for multiple weeks and win a bunch of slams. Still waiting for that myocarditis and autoimmunity and Crohns to kick in, lol.
“Like many others, Djokovic suffered under public-health decision-making that did everything but follow the science."
"Joe Biden, by presidential proclamation, banned the entry of unvaccinated noncitizen air travelers into the country starting Nov. 8, 2021."
"Apparently unvaccinated citizens and land travelers did not pose any risk."
"And a systematic review and meta-analysis published in early 2023 in the British journal The Lancet confirmed what I and many others had long said: Natural immunity following COVID infections is real, and “the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines.”
"Public-health officials in other places — such as the United Kingdom, the European Union and Israel — created certificates to document vaccination or recovery from COVID-19 infection to facilitate travel and entry into public places.”
“But the Biden administration experts were so intent on pushing vaccination that they refused to acknowledge the existence of natural immunity following infection."
"The experts pursued this policy even though, as Anthony Fauci admitted in a journal article, vaccines against respiratory viruses like the one that causes COVID-19 usually provide “decidedly suboptimal” protection against infection and rarely produce durable protective immunity."
Vaccine requirements for immigrants and tourists! What a travesty! Only existed for ... 100+ years!
What’s the infection fatality rate of COVID? You seem to be misunderstanding or exaggerating
Just exaggerating to make a point to all you vax or else people. But, remember, you told us none of this stuff was a “mandate.” The you go post an article about a Singapore mandate from 2022. Weird.
You had no point unless you exaggerated. That's called a strawman.
Djokovic last had Covid in December 2021 but hardly knew it. Went on to still dominate at world’s #1 for multiple weeks and win a bunch of slams. Still waiting for that myocarditis and autoimmunity and Crohns to kick in, lol.
“Like many others, Djokovic suffered under public-health decision-making that did everything but follow the science."
"Joe Biden, by presidential proclamation, banned the entry of unvaccinated noncitizen air travelers into the country starting Nov. 8, 2021."
"Apparently unvaccinated citizens and land travelers did not pose any risk."
"And a systematic review and meta-analysis published in early 2023 in the British journal The Lancet confirmed what I and many others had long said: Natural immunity following COVID infections is real, and “the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines.”
"Public-health officials in other places — such as the United Kingdom, the European Union and Israel — created certificates to document vaccination or recovery from COVID-19 infection to facilitate travel and entry into public places.”
“But the Biden administration experts were so intent on pushing vaccination that they refused to acknowledge the existence of natural immunity following infection."
"The experts pursued this policy even though, as Anthony Fauci admitted in a journal article, vaccines against respiratory viruses like the one that causes COVID-19 usually provide “decidedly suboptimal” protection against infection and rarely produce durable protective immunity."
Vaccine requirements for immigrants and tourists! What a travesty! Only existed for ... 100+ years!
Yes, indeed. The point of the article was illegal immigrants who crossed the southern border somehow didn’t have the same requirements and spread the virus unwittingly. Why is that? How did you miss that?
Why was Djokovic, who was allowed to play the US Open in 2021, unvaccinated, and who had developed natural immunity (that our health authorities were eventually forced to concede was just as good as vax-induced) not allowed into the country but all of these unvetted, undocumented aliens were?
We find a strong positive association between cognitive ability and swift vaccination, which remains even after controlling for confounding variables with a twin-design. The results suggest that the complexity of the vaccination decision may make it difficult for individuals with lower cognitive abilities to understand the benefits of vaccination.
Vaccine requirements for immigrants and tourists! What a travesty! Only existed for ... 100+ years!
Yes, indeed. The point of the article was illegal immigrants who crossed the southern border somehow didn’t have the same requirements and spread the virus unwittingly. Why is that? How did you miss that?
Why was Djokovic, who was allowed to play the US Open in 2021, unvaccinated, and who had developed natural immunity (that our health authorities were eventually forced to concede was just as good as vax-induced) not allowed into the country but all of these unvetted, undocumented aliens were?
"Natural immunity" is worse than the vaccine.
Current immigrants at the southern border are arriving at at time when COVID is largely under control thanks to vaccination. Of course, you only care about immigration suddenly because it's the 'current thing.' Soon you'll move back to trans kids or whatever.
Chokervic tried to come to the US during a peak in COVID risk while being openly antivaxxer. The US was right to bar him.
Yes, indeed. The point of the article was illegal immigrants who crossed the southern border somehow didn’t have the same requirements and spread the virus unwittingly. Why is that? How did you miss that?
Why was Djokovic, who was allowed to play the US Open in 2021, unvaccinated, and who had developed natural immunity (that our health authorities were eventually forced to concede was just as good as vax-induced) not allowed into the country but all of these unvetted, undocumented aliens were?
"Natural immunity" is worse than the vaccine.
Current immigrants at the southern border are arriving at at time when COVID is largely under control thanks to vaccination. Of course, you only care about immigration suddenly because it's the 'current thing.' Soon you'll move back to trans kids or whatever.
Chokervic tried to come to the US during a peak in COVID risk while being openly antivaxxer. The US was right to bar him.
Nope, it’s not worse. Where is the data putting up, say, two recovered Covid infections against, say, five vaccines?
We are not talking about current immigrants, genius, although it’s a massive problem the current government is, for some reason, ignoring. We are talking about undocumented aliens that flowed across the border all during Covid, captured and released and often sent into sanctuary cities to, unwittingly, much like a vaccinated person, spread Covid. Genius. Can you of highest IQ even read?
Nope, it’s not worse. Where is the data putting up, say, two recovered Covid infections against, say, five vaccines?
We are not talking about current immigrants, genius, although it’s a massive problem the current government is, for some reason, ignoring. We are talking about undocumented aliens that flowed across the border all during Covid, captured and released and often sent into sanctuary cities to, unwittingly, much like a vaccinated person, spread Covid. Genius. Can you of highest IQ even read?
Antivaxxers proposing impossible trials and refusing to accept any other data – real rationalist thinking.
The data I've posted repeatedly on this thread show that natural immunity is worse. One infection, pre Omicron, is decent – but still below a 3 shot series. A subsequent Omicron infection is basically worthless – the antibodies generates are low-breadth and wane quickly. Omicron is just not that immunogenic.
Do you have any evidence that immigrants were responsible for significant increases in COVID spread? Considering we already know antivaxxers killed 300k Americans. Good attempt to change the topic.
P.S. Of course, Biden is trying to make changes to immigration processes, but the GOP is blocking it.
Whilst SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines have demonstrated efficacy in reducing infection severity, research has shown that SARS-CoV-2 infection is associated with new autoantibodies. Whether this would also be observed during mRNA va...
Giving yourself autoimmune issues for that sweet, sweet 'natural immunity'
Autoantibody dynamics are remarkably stable in all vaccinated patients compared to COVID-19 patients that exhibit an increased prevalence of new autoantibody reactivities.
Djokovic last had Covid in December 2021 but hardly knew it. Went on to still dominate at world’s #1 for multiple weeks and win a bunch of slams. Still waiting for that myocarditis and autoimmunity and Crohns to kick in, lol.
“Like many others, Djokovic suffered under public-health decision-making that did everything but follow the science."
"Joe Biden, by presidential proclamation, banned the entry of unvaccinated noncitizen air travelers into the country starting Nov. 8, 2021."
"Apparently unvaccinated citizens and land travelers did not pose any risk."
"And a systematic review and meta-analysis published in early 2023 in the British journal The Lancet confirmed what I and many others had long said: Natural immunity following COVID infections is real, and “the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines.”
"Public-health officials in other places — such as the United Kingdom, the European Union and Israel — created certificates to document vaccination or recovery from COVID-19 infection to facilitate travel and entry into public places.”
“But the Biden administration experts were so intent on pushing vaccination that they refused to acknowledge the existence of natural immunity following infection."
"The experts pursued this policy even though, as Anthony Fauci admitted in a journal article, vaccines against respiratory viruses like the one that causes COVID-19 usually provide “decidedly suboptimal” protection against infection and rarely produce durable protective immunity."
Vaccine requirements for immigrants and tourists! What a travesty! Only existed for ... 100+ years!
The only difference is that this is not a vaccine.
I’d wager that the IFR, hospitalization rate and negative outcome probability for a 30-something athlete in great health would be minuscule. Negligible, in fact. Probably not even high enough to worry about. What do you think? 😂
The risk of death for a healthy 30 year old is very very low
The risk of a bad time and long term damage is higher.
^when people fail to understand very small numbers. 😂 Long vax, no doubt. That or he’s just not very smart.
Dr. Harambro said he has long Covid. It must be true. 😂
Djokovic REALLY makes Harambro mad. I LOVE talking about him. Victory lap, Joker. 🇷🇸🏃🇷🇸
Djokovic last had Covid in December 2021 but hardly knew it. Went on to still dominate at world’s #1 for multiple weeks and win a bunch of slams. Still waiting for that myocarditis and autoimmunity and Crohns to kick in, lol.
“Like many others, Djokovic suffered under public-health decision-making that did everything but follow the science."
"Joe Biden, by presidential proclamation, banned the entry of unvaccinated noncitizen air travelers into the country starting Nov. 8, 2021."
"Apparently unvaccinated citizens and land travelers did not pose any risk."
"And a systematic review and meta-analysis published in early 2023 in the British journal The Lancet confirmed what I and many others had long said: Natural immunity following COVID infections is real, and “the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines.”
"Public-health officials in other places — such as the United Kingdom, the European Union and Israel — created certificates to document vaccination or recovery from COVID-19 infection to facilitate travel and entry into public places.”
“But the Biden administration experts were so intent on pushing vaccination that they refused to acknowledge the existence of natural immunity following infection."
"The experts pursued this policy even though, as Anthony Fauci admitted in a journal article, vaccines against respiratory viruses like the one that causes COVID-19 usually provide “decidedly suboptimal” protection against infection and rarely produce durable protective immunity."
The only difference is that this is not a vaccine.
Only in your conspiratorial mind, brother.
You can call it whatever you want, but it’s certainly not comparable to any vaccine we’ve ever traditionally used the term for. just makes you feel better cause it’s forever running in your veins. but it does not stop transmission and it does not stop you from getting it. we don’t get Polio anymore do we? I would feel bad for you but since you are a needle attacker on innocent people, then you gonna have to lie in your bed.
Just exaggerating to make a point to all you vax or else people. But, remember, you told us none of this stuff was a “mandate.” The you go post an article about a Singapore mandate from 2022. Weird.
You had no point unless you exaggerated. That's called a strawman.
Yes, indeed. The point of the article was illegal immigrants who crossed the southern border somehow didn’t have the same requirements and spread the virus unwittingly. Why is that? How did you miss that?
Why was Djokovic, who was allowed to play the US Open in 2021, unvaccinated, and who had developed natural immunity (that our health authorities were eventually forced to concede was just as good as vax-induced) not allowed into the country but all of these unvetted, undocumented aliens were?
"Natural immunity" is worse than the vaccine.
Current immigrants at the southern border are arriving at at time when COVID is largely under control thanks to vaccination. Of course, you only care about immigration suddenly because it's the 'current thing.' Soon you'll move back to trans kids or whatever.
Chokervic tried to come to the US during a peak in COVID risk while being openly antivaxxer. The US was right to bar him.
😂 This never gets old. It never gets true either. 🤦♂️
