Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

FFF wrote:

Agree wrote:

You have to understand that the crazies that obsess over these cheating threads think that it is perfectly normal and that everyone has read every post and poured through every picture like them.

gloopers is Agree, the same IP.

False. Making up IP claims is morally wrong. Consider your employer contacted.

milka what! wrote:

Frank's excuse from the article wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no mention of the most damning evidence which is the second video showing Frank hanging around at the bus stop for nearly a minute. This just sounds like it is a possible misunderstanding involving an unscheduled pee break.

It would be good if Derek could contact the magazine to point out their omission.

no, it's NOT a possible misunderstanding involving an unscheduled pee break. are you a moron?

nice try but you definitely rode the short bus to school or of course, you're the defendant.

what an embarrassing post. is it Frank or someone who knows him.

Boy, you’re dumb.

Reading comprehension isn’t one of your capabilities you moran.

doubler wrote:

Canadian Running missed a lot.

The evidence was not that he was off the course. It’s that he never appeared on the course at the locations that he stepped off.

It’s that he was off the course for two long periods of time after stating that he stepped off for a few seconds.

And, of course, the Phoenix video evidence.

But, his statements and this incomplete article practically forces me to follow up to address his response.

That's the frustrating thing with this type of evidence: it might take a reader a few minutes of examination to really understand it all, and sadly, oftentimes people won't or can't give that much time. So you exert yourself mightily to explain why he should have been here at this time, or would have had to come through this checkpoint after this runner, and the response you get is, "oh, well, it turns out he just had to stop and pee." It's a bit like describing your dreams to someone; your listeners are nodding their heads and all that, but they actually tuned out as soon as they heard the word "dream".

Anyway, hopefully you'll be able to get through to Canadian Running.

Jiporday wrote:

He stood there for a long time before jumping in and that is actual proof. He was not peeing. Here come the wild outlandish excuses, buckle up people, this is going to be too funny to believe.

And the hole he's digging for himself just gets deeper and deeper.

The best thing is to use the most damning, simple to follow evidence first. In my opinion that is the video of Frank at the bus stop. That's what I've linked to when I've reported this to concerned parties.

Even if you don't know the details that 90 second clip accompanied by the info that this guy is claiming a "world record" sets off anyone's bullshit detector. After that one can provide more in-depth stuff if it's required.

I didn't buy him running 41 flat to 10km either so did some sleuthing in the race photos before his appearance in photo number 046277 with Clement Dalmay.

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/1151/3017_046277#3017_046277

I wasn't optimistic - if he jumped in it would be from the inside of the course - I assumed - which is also where the photographer is shooting from. But, lo and behold:

Stretching / watching the clock:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046233

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046237

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046251

(there are many more)

Entering the course:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046266

Meza: "I do this for fun"

Strange kind of fun putting hard training oldies out of age placings, not to mention meticulous premeditated cheating tactics, claiming world records from revered legends like Ed Whitlock and respected fasted ever 70yo marathoner Gene Dykes.

You're one weird fella Dr Meza and now you're doubling down by coming up with piss weak statements like "I do this for fun", and on top of that you pay entry fees for all this fun you've been having for years.

Haha, the old cheaters "pretending to stretch" trick, before jumping in.

How smoking does this gun have to be exactly? wrote:

I didn't buy him running 41 flat to 10km either so did some sleuthing in the race photos before his appearance in photo number 046277 with Clement Dalmay.

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/1151/3017_046277#3017_046277

I wasn't optimistic - if he jumped in it would be from the inside of the course - I assumed - which is also where the photographer is shooting from. But, lo and behold:

Stretching / watching the clock:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046233https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046237https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046251

(there are many more)

Entering the course:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046266

Three separate photographed stops and he pisses all over the world record! clearly the GOAT.

How smoking does this gun have to be exactly? wrote:

I didn't buy him running 41 flat to 10km either so did some sleuthing in the race photos before his appearance in photo number 046277 with Clement Dalmay.

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/1151/3017_046277#3017_046277

I wasn't optimistic - if he jumped in it would be from the inside of the course - I assumed - which is also where the photographer is shooting from. But, lo and behold:

Stretching / watching the clock:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046233https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046237https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046251

(there are many more)

Entering the course:

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_046266

Nice work! Ok, LA Marathon! (and world) Is that enough for you? My goodness:

Meza GOAT wrote:

Three separate photographed stops and he pisses all over the world record! clearly the GOAT.

Four.

" I’ve realized my problem is that I don’t hydrate properly."

Yeah Frank, that's your problem.

Lmao, uh huh. Crazies indeed. If the mods on here can actually see IP's then there's proof that's a different person. You on the other hand can't see sh*t, so you just make up BS.

I make a post lamenting the fact that this cheater hasn't been stricken down and that it sucks he'll probably get away with it since all he has to do is fake retire and take it easy. Literally said that I hope he's dumb enough to try it again so he gets caught for good. But then I get shamed for being late to the thread, then called an apologist as if someone thought I was trying to defend Frank Meza, and now I'm getting accused of being another poster. This place is so toxic. I'm done.

Innocent victim card:

"I don’t get paid for it. A lot of people don’t even know I’m a runner. I do this for fun, and right now this isn’t fun."

Frank's excuse from the article wrote:

"A lot of people don’t even know I’m a runner. "

Not, it seems, for lack of effort on his part:

And, on his (apparently out-of-date) Kaiser Permanente physician's page:

"I went to college on a track scholarship . . . ."

"I recently set eight California age group marathon records."

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

" I’ve realized my problem is that I don’t hydrate properly."

Yeah Frank, that's your problem.

WTF does that mean, does he mean he over hydrates and it makes him piss a lot, hope that's what he means, otherwise I fear for his patients if thinks not hydrating enough makes you piss.

Canadian Running said they will add in The Phoenix evidence.

The poster that found the additional photos had emailed me as well. Great work there.

I’ll get the hi-res images and include them in my rebuttal to Frank’s statements.

Impressive find on the series of pix! Would be interesting estimate the time he stood around there with the fake stretching. Between that and the two other stops, he probably lost at least 5 min and still broke the world record!

Only thing missing is him on a bike.

I didn't see where the LA marathon readdressed Derek after the video evidence so perhaps they will man-up and DQ him for good. Its only been 2 days.

Wasn't there an article somewhere that said not only does he talk the talk but he walks the walk and is a champion marathon runner lol, something like that.