here is a post showing both no clue and also not being very polite as well:
rjm33 wrote:
You are right...malaria is prevalent in Africa...so it could just be a coincidence.
But the world record holder in the marathon running 2:03... 6 weeks after a bout of malaria...which causes anemia!...seems almost too unbelievable!...
...this is starting to sound familiar to another thread... which is now becoming very boring...
The Italian connection is key. Look at what Dr. Francesco Conconi was publishing a study about in the year 1988, the same year EPO was banned by the International Ski Federation that governs cross-country skiers:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3384528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Conconi
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/k...lel-191629
For another coincidence...
Martin Lel won the World Half-marathon Championships at Vilamoura in 2003 ...the same year that Paula Radcliffe won the women's championship race. I have heard it was warm that day... but nobody in the world knows what the actual temperature was during the race that day!
For another coincidence, as you can see from the link above...Martin Lel was coached by Claudio Berardelli... and his manager was Frederico Rosa...RJM, I haven't been on this thread since the day I posted it. Please email me if you have any questions.
Youre posts seem to have no logic.
This is how I see it.
1) Malaria is common in Kenya. I'm not sure what some korean-kenyan testing positive has anything to do with the rosa group. Is it possible groups could have been using EPO for a long time in Kenya? of course it is but that has nothing to do with the case wer are talking about here.
2) The thing you seem to not understand is people will say they had malaria when they simply got sick so it's not necessarily malaria even if it's in the press that way.
3) I've learned from posting this thread as a few people have posted, or emailed me that it is indeed possible that someone was given EPO after they got malaria. So it's possible this guy Erupe didn't mean to cheat.
Instead you've taken this thread back into the 1980s.
rojo wrote:
Other greats had malaria wrote:
So, with regards to this athlete, I see a big issue: being able to come back from that kind of illness and perform as a 2:05 marathoner.Filbert Bayi, the great world record setting miler, had recurring malaria.
Billy Konchellah won two world 800m titles. Pretty sure he missed one of the world championships in between his two titles because he had tuberculosis, and had to stop training on more than one occasion because of TB. He was also sick in another way, but no need to dredge that up again.
What's your point? I hope you are making fun of RJM. EPO didn't exist when Bayi competed.
Thank you very much, Rojo. I consider a comment like that from you to be expected.
If you talk to Paula Perfect Transparency Radcliffe soon, please ask her if she is ever going to release any blood test results for hemoglobin and reticulocyte levels from around her 2:15 or 2:17 world record marathons.
That is a question I have for Paula that you can help me get answered.
Thanks so much for helping me get some answers to my questions.
We are all still waiting for answers from Paula.