Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

I'd like to hear that too, Gary. What does it mean to win the shutdown?

Kushner's time in the barrel is quickly approaching:

http://www.manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/banken/deutsche-bank-meldet-zwielichtige-geschaefte-von-jared-kushner-a-1188345.html

The short version from Handelsblatt Global:

"Deutsche Bank reported questionable transactions involving President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, or people or businesses near him, to German securities regulators and will forward the info to special prosecutor Robert Mueller."

Country over party.

Two questions for FLAGPOLE. And I think that many others would like to see the answers just as much as I do.

1) What is Mueller doing?

2) What is Trump's current status?

Thanking you in advance.

Fat hurts wrote:

I'd like to hear that too, Gary. What does it mean to win the shutdown?

L L and Fat Hurts, no need to worry...Trump himself and Fox News will tell us when and how Trump wins the shutdown. Rush is already declaring victory for him. Must be true.

Fat hurts wrote:

I'd like to hear that too, Gary. What does it mean to win the shutdown?

It means he won't be blamed for the shutdown no matter what happens.

Also, it means that either there will be no DACA, or there will be DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery.

Rigged for Trump wrote:

Two questions for FLAGPOLE. And I think that many others would like to see the answers just as much as I do.

1) What is Mueller doing?

2) What is Trump's current status?

Thanking you in advance.

Thank you for asking. You show your benevolence by wanting to help others like that.

Enough of my yappin'. Here are the answers to your questions:

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

DiscoGary wrote:

It means he won't be blamed for the shutdown no matter what happens.

Also, it means that either there will be no DACA, or there will be DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery.

Blame will be partisan.

I will blame him. You will not. Fair enough?

To your other points:

You are saying the government will not be reopened after it shutdowns without clear funding for a wall (which Mexico was supposed to fund) or it will be reopened without a DACA agreement.

Is that fair to say?

So the government is going to shutdown because Republicans and Trump want undocumented adult immigrants who were brought here as children and have been living here for years deported.

Or, on the other side, it will shutdown because Democrats don't want American tax payers funding a great border wall between the US and Mexico. (but they have agreed to fund more boarder security in a broad sense)

This pornstar affair is just another ethical low. The leader of republicans and their values cheated on his Nth wife with a pornstar and paid her off with an offshore entity. Trump will forever be that earth-sized $hitstain on the GOP.

DiscoGary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I'd like to hear that too, Gary. What does it mean to win the shutdown?

It means he won't be blamed for the shutdown no matter what happens.

Also, it means that either there will be no DACA, or there will be DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery.

The blame game will happen on both sides so it will be impossible to call a winner there.

On your second one, are you talking about the final agreement or just the state of things during a shutdown?

If there is a shutdown, there will be no DACA. But I don't see how you call that a win.

If a bill is signed with DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery, that might indeed be a win for the godless Trump. Of course, both sides would claim victory. I'd just call it a compromise.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

It means he won't be blamed for the shutdown no matter what happens.

Also, it means that either there will be no DACA, or there will be DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery.

The blame game will happen on both sides so it will be impossible to call a winner there.

On your second one, are you talking about the final agreement or just the state of things during a shutdown?

If there is a shutdown, there will be no DACA. But I don't see how you call that a win.

If a bill is signed with DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery, that might indeed be a win for the godless Trump. Of course, both sides would claim victory. I'd just call it a compromise.

It would be a compromise, and it would be good compassionate compromise that a majority of Americans would think is fair, but it will cut off the flow of new Democrat voters, so the Democrats will never go for it.

DiscoGary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

The blame game will happen on both sides so it will be impossible to call a winner there.

On your second one, are you talking about the final agreement or just the state of things during a shutdown?

If there is a shutdown, there will be no DACA. But I don't see how you call that a win.

If a bill is signed with DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery, that might indeed be a win for the godless Trump. Of course, both sides would claim victory. I'd just call it a compromise.

It would be a compromise, and it would be good compassionate compromise that a majority of Americans would think is fair, but it will cut off the flow of new Democrat voters, so the Democrats will never go for it.

That would depend on the details. You could probably peel off enough Democrats to pass it.

But a better compromise would be DACA + CHIP + Wall + no chain + no lottery. You'd probably get over half of Democrats in the Senate to vote yes on that one. I think then you could declare everyone a winner.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

It would be a compromise, and it would be good compassionate compromise that a majority of Americans would think is fair, but it will cut off the flow of new Democrat voters, so the Democrats will never go for it.

That would depend on the details. You could probably peel off enough Democrats to pass it.

But a better compromise would be DACA + CHIP + Wall + no chain + no lottery. You'd probably get over half of Democrats in the Senate to vote yes on that one. I think then you could declare everyone a winner.

Oh, and you would only lose a handful of Republican votes by adding CHIP. Most of them support it anyway.

I remember when the GOP threatened a shut down under Obama, clearly not many republicans were upset with their party and instead just blamed Obama. The same song is being played here. There is one particular stinging point for Trump if this goes badly though - the stock market will see some panic.

Seems like if there is a deal that makes DACA law, that's a win for Democrats.

DACA is not in the current funding bill.

If money gets allocated for a wall, that's not the same as it being built. That would take years just to agree on how to use the money.

And of course that breaks the promise of Mexico paying for it.

A real Trump win would mean no DACA, and a wall gets built with Pesos.

DiscoGary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I'd like to hear that too, Gary. What does it mean to win the shutdown?

It means he won't be blamed for the shutdown no matter what happens.

Also, it means that either there will be no DACA, or there will be DACA + Wall + no chain + no lottery.

Good read:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-first-year-a-damage-assessment/2018/01/19/0b410f3c-fa66-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.c4f6a88379e3

Flagpole wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Trump will win a government shutdown battle.

Just getting that on the record.

Could be. Doesn't mean he still isn't a punk and a really bad person...criminal, sexist, adulterer, harasser, racist, liar. But, I guess if politically he wins this government shutdown thing, that makes it all ok, right?

Ha....This is getting hilarious....Flagpole is sitting in his room seething with rage.

7 more years baby....

I always hear Trump is such a great deal maker. I'm sure he will be able to work something out to avoid shutdown.