Liberal beta-male cucks absolutely BTFO!!!
Liberal beta-male cucks absolutely BTFO!!!
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump. There is your collusion. Plain as day. Do you like facts? Because those are the FACTS. How about FBI agents getting in on the dossier action? Do you like FACTS? Now kindly explain how we discovered these facts. Did the Washington Post or NYT discover these facts, or did they just report the Russian Smear as Facts? Did they "wiretap" Trump and others and leak the conversations to the media (illegally)? Now give me some of you facts.
Fat hurts wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Seems to me that the collusion charge would be more applicable to the so called "piss tape", provided by Fusion GPS and financed by the HRC campaign and the DNC, which apparently HRC was in control of.
Is that really what you think happened? We don't even know for sure if the "piss tape" exists. But if it does, it was not provided by Fusion GPS. It was allegedly created by the Russian government.
Fusion GPS hired Steele to do research. In the course of his research, informants told him about the tape along with a lot of other dirt.
There are a lot more details you should become familiar with. Looks like you are getting a lot of facts mixed up.
The FACT is that you don't know what you are talking about. Read the Fusion GPS testimony that Sen. Grassley didn't want you to see. Sen Feinstien released it on her own. This is testimony from the founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn R. Simpson. He tells all about the origin of the dossier. As for who paid for it: 1) Fusion GPS was originally hired by a Republican donor who didn't want the godless Trump to win the primary. 2) After the primary, HRC campaign paid a law firm to hire someone to do opposition research. 3) The law firm hired Fusion GPS. 4) Fusion GPS picked up where the Republicans left off after Trump won the primary. 5) Fusion GPS hired Steele to look into godless Trump's business dealings in Russia. 6) Steele consulted his Russian contacts, who gave him information that was far more damaging than he expected. It is unclear to me whether or not Steel paid these contacts for the information, but that is how the dossier came to be. According to Simpson's testimony, Steele wasn't hired right away. They did a lot of background research before they decided that they needed to dig into Russia matters. There is no evidence whatsoever that HRC knew anything about Steele or what he was doing. She was several steps removed from the whole process. If you don't believe the congressional testimony that Republicans wanted sealed, I suggest that you consult other non-partisan sources, such as WikiPedia, which has a fully annotated chronology. You can dig into the chronology and its fully-vetted sources to find out the truth. Or, you can just continue believing the lies you have been fed by Fox and Friends. Your choice.
its_baddude wrote:
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump. There is your collusion. Plain as day. Do you like facts? Because those are the FACTS. How about FBI agents getting in on the dossier action? Do you like FACTS?
Now kindly explain how we discovered these facts. Did the Washington Post or NYT discover these facts, or did they just report the Russian Smear as Facts? Did they "wiretap" Trump and others and leak the conversations to the media (illegally)?
Now give me some of you facts.
Fat hurts wrote:
Is that really what you think happened? We don't even know for sure if the "piss tape" exists. But if it does, it was not provided by Fusion GPS. It was allegedly created by the Russian government.
Fusion GPS hired Steele to do research. In the course of his research, informants told him about the tape along with a lot of other dirt.
There are a lot more details you should become familiar with. Looks like you are getting a lot of facts mixed up.
one libbie two libbie way too many dumb libbie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gTjdUrDFQ
Class action against Google, Twitter being sued, Facebook stocks tumbling. If the liberal technocrats go down, it's all over for them ;)
semsur wrote:
Class action against Google, Twitter being sued, Facebook stocks tumbling. If the liberal technocrats go down, it's all over for them ;)
All were complicit in Russiagate. They were knowingly accepting money for false narratives. F*ck all of them.
Country over party.
its_baddude wrote:
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump. There is your collusion. Plain as day. Do you like facts? Because those are the FACTS. How about FBI agents getting in on the dossier action? Do you like FACTS?
Now kindly explain how we discovered these facts. Did the Washington Post or NYT discover these facts, or did they just report the Russian Smear as Facts? Did they "wiretap" Trump and others and leak the conversations to the media (illegally)?
Now give me some of you facts.
Fat hurts wrote:
Is that really what you think happened? We don't even know for sure if the "piss tape" exists. But if it does, it was not provided by Fusion GPS. It was allegedly created by the Russian government.
Fusion GPS hired Steele to do research. In the course of his research, informants told him about the tape along with a lot of other dirt.
There are a lot more details you should become familiar with. Looks like you are getting a lot of facts mixed up.
You do know that you are debating the dickless Fat hurts, right? Give him a break. It must be awful to have to live with that missing.
Arthur P. Fonz wrote:
Let's let trump fail if he's going to, and he might. I don't know. He hasn't had a chance yet. Hillary has been a failed legislator. Move on.
If?
It's crazy how the new "low bar" is a guy with the mind of a 5=year-old. Trump will always be in Obama's shadow..
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
If?
It's crazy how the new "low bar" is a guy with the mind of a 5=year-old. Trump will always be in Obama's shadow..
go ahead keep denying all the economic metrics. your party is so far detached from the average american, you have no idea
its_baddude wrote:
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump.
Huh? Ignore the fact a Right wing PAC paid for the initial research. Whomever owned the opposition research make lemons out of lemonade by then selling it to someone else.
And, we all know that's the first time in history anyone paid for opposition research. First time!!
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine AM?
pop_pop_v2.2.1 wrote:
its_baddude wrote:
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump.
Huh? Ignore the fact a Right wing PAC paid for the initial research. Whomever owned the opposition research make lemons out of lemonade by then selling it to someone else.
And, we all know that's the first time in history anyone paid for opposition research. First time!!
Right. And this is the main point. Both campaigns sought opposition research. The HRC campaign did it the legal way. The Trump campaign did it the illegal way.
HRC went through a law firm who hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was not told how to do the job. Fusion GPS ended up paying a former British intel agent who sought information from Russian contacts.
The Trump campaign met directly with representatives of a foreign government on many, many occasions. It is illegal for a campaign to solicit anything of value from a foreign entity. Whether the facts are strong enough to build a case in court is something Mueller will decide.
Trumpers might contend that it's a distinction without a difference. Both ended up getting help from Russians, except the HRC campaign did it indirectly and the Trump campaign did it directly.
But if you are talking about collusion (or conspiracy), it matters a lot. The HRC campaign did not know they were paying for information from Russian sources. You can't collude with someone when you don't even know what is happening.
Great, I see in a long winded way you actually agree with me. You can not dispute anything I say because it is true. 1) irrelevant to the dossier 2) what I said 3) what I said 4) opinion 5) what I said 6) what I said What you missed: 1) 12.4 million was paid to Perkins Cole. Yet you claim HRC had now idea how this money was being used. LOL. 2) I read the GPS testimony. Nothing new. Everything he said was known. He also played with words to insinuate things that are not true and were retracted later. What did I miss?
Fat hurts wrote:
The FACT is that you don't know what you are talking about. Read the Fusion GPS testimony that Sen. Grassley didn't want you to see. Sen Feinstien released it on her own. This is testimony from the founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn R. Simpson. He tells all about the origin of the dossier.
As for who paid for it:
1) Fusion GPS was originally hired by a Republican donor who didn't want the godless Trump to win the primary.
2) After the primary, HRC campaign paid a law firm to hire someone to do opposition research.
3) The law firm hired Fusion GPS.
4) Fusion GPS picked up where the Republicans left off after Trump won the primary.
5) Fusion GPS hired Steele to look into godless Trump's business dealings in Russia.
6) Steele consulted his Russian contacts, who gave him information that was far more damaging than he expected.
It is unclear to me whether or not Steel paid these contacts for the information, but that is how the dossier came to be. According to Simpson's testimony, Steele wasn't hired right away. They did a lot of background research before they decided that they needed to dig into Russia matters.
There is no evidence whatsoever that HRC knew anything about Steele or what he was doing. She was several steps removed from the whole process.
If you don't believe the congressional testimony that Republicans wanted sealed, I suggest that you consult other non-partisan sources, such as WikiPedia, which has a fully annotated chronology. You can dig into the chronology and its fully-vetted sources to find out the truth.
Or, you can just continue believing the lies you have been fed by Fox and Friends. Your choice.
its_baddude wrote:
You are not sure of anything. Stop making stuff up. The facts are that HRC's campaign paid for the dossier. The money was used to pay Russians to smear Trump. There is your collusion. Plain as day. Do you like facts? Because those are the FACTS. How about FBI agents getting in on the dossier action? Do you like FACTS?
Now kindly explain how we discovered these facts. Did the Washington Post or NYT discover these facts, or did they just report the Russian Smear as Facts? Did they "wiretap" Trump and others and leak the conversations to the media (illegally)?
Now give me some of you facts.
kekistani wrote:
Liberal beta-male cucks absolutely BTFO!!!
https://archive.is/b9hGt
I'll give him credit.
The Fake News Awards bit is pretty funny.
The push against the First Amendment and the authoritarian streak it implies is not funny, but that silly award thing is funny.
Why did Fusion GPS hired Steel when HRC money came in and not before? Why would Fusion GPS work with Russians to collect dirt on Trump (the mortal enemy of the US)? Why is the FBI meeting with Fusion GPS during all of this?
Fat hurts wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Seems to me that the collusion charge would be more applicable to the so called "piss tape", provided by Fusion GPS and financed by the HRC campaign and the DNC, which apparently HRC was in control of.
Is that really what you think happened? We don't even know for sure if the "piss tape" exists. But if it does, it was not provided by Fusion GPS. It was allegedly created by the Russian government.
Fusion GPS hired Steele to do research. In the course of his research, informants told him about the tape along with a lot of other dirt.
There are a lot more details you should become familiar with. Looks like you are getting a lot of facts mixed up.
How did Trump do opposition research illegally? Let try to be clear.
Fat hurts wrote:
pop_pop_v2.2.1 wrote:
Huh? Ignore the fact a Right wing PAC paid for the initial research. Whomever owned the opposition research make lemons out of lemonade by then selling it to someone else.
And, we all know that's the first time in history anyone paid for opposition research. First time!!
Right. And this is the main point. Both campaigns sought opposition research. The HRC campaign did it the legal way. The Trump campaign did it the illegal way.
HRC went through a law firm who hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was not told how to do the job. Fusion GPS ended up paying a former British intel agent who sought information from Russian contacts.
The Trump campaign met directly with representatives of a foreign government on many, many occasions. It is illegal for a campaign to solicit anything of value from a foreign entity. Whether the facts are strong enough to build a case in court is something Mueller will decide.
Trumpers might contend that it's a distinction without a difference. Both ended up getting help from Russians, except the HRC campaign did it indirectly and the Trump campaign did it directly.
But if you are talking about collusion (or conspiracy), it matters a lot. The HRC campaign did not know they were paying for information from Russian sources. You can't collude with someone when you don't even know what is happening.
L L wrote:
kekistani wrote:
Liberal beta-male cucks absolutely BTFO!!!
https://archive.is/b9hGtI'll give him credit.
The Fake News Awards bit is pretty funny.
The push against the First Amendment and the authoritarian streak it implies is not funny, but that silly award thing is funny.
And CNN did quite well at the awards....4 of them....I'm actually surprised that CNN had enough ethics to put out retractions on their fake news...
Steel was paid $168000 to work on trump dossier. We only know this because republicans have been digging hard and in charge of congress. Otherwise, the lies would be left out there. Please show me what I said that was not factual or is wrong.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-fusion-gps-paid-steele-168000-to-work-on-trump-dossier/
its_baddude wrote:
Great, I see in a long winded way you actually agree with me. You can not dispute anything I say because it is true.
1) irrelevant to the dossier
2) what I said
3) what I said
4) opinion
5) what I said
6) what I said
What you missed:
1) 12.4 million was paid to Perkins Cole. Yet you claim HRC had now idea how this money was being used. LOL.
2) I read the GPS testimony. Nothing new. Everything he said was known. He also played with words to insinuate things that are not true and were retracted later.
What did I miss?
Fat hurts wrote:
The FACT is that you don't know what you are talking about. Read the Fusion GPS testimony that Sen. Grassley didn't want you to see. Sen Feinstien released it on her own. This is testimony from the founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn R. Simpson. He tells all about the origin of the dossier.
As for who paid for it:
1) Fusion GPS was originally hired by a Republican donor who didn't want the godless Trump to win the primary.
2) After the primary, HRC campaign paid a law firm to hire someone to do opposition research.
3) The law firm hired Fusion GPS.
4) Fusion GPS picked up where the Republicans left off after Trump won the primary.
5) Fusion GPS hired Steele to look into godless Trump's business dealings in Russia.
6) Steele consulted his Russian contacts, who gave him information that was far more damaging than he expected.
It is unclear to me whether or not Steel paid these contacts for the information, but that is how the dossier came to be. According to Simpson's testimony, Steele wasn't hired right away. They did a lot of background research before they decided that they needed to dig into Russia matters.
There is no evidence whatsoever that HRC knew anything about Steele or what he was doing. She was several steps removed from the whole process.
If you don't believe the congressional testimony that Republicans wanted sealed, I suggest that you consult other non-partisan sources, such as WikiPedia, which has a fully annotated chronology. You can dig into the chronology and its fully-vetted sources to find out the truth.
Or, you can just continue believing the lies you have been fed by Fox and Friends. Your choice.
Enough of this fusion gps stuff. What’s up with wall? Who should we believe, Kelly or Trump? I know Kelly is next in line to be called “coffee boy”, but for now what’s the story. Btw, pretty funny that Kelly refered to Trump as uninformed. Although anyone who has a pulse knows that.
Trump just gave Rick Saccone the kiss of death:
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/953973568035086336
OK Steele made money collecting information on Trump and possible connections to Russia.
He was paid by different groups.
The question pertinent to this discussion and this presidency is:
Was the information collected true?