Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Regarding that stupid cognitive test that Trump took...I don't really care too much about the results of that. Not all insane people will perform badly on that test. I'm not even suggesting that Trump is clinically insane, and I don't need for him to have an excuse for his unhinged behavior.

A plane with a screw loose can still fly and land.

I'm much more concerned with Trump's behavior than looking for any cause of it.

He's a serial liar. He is criminal to the nth degree. He is clearly obstructing justice. Russia has him under its thumb, and that is unacceptable for a US President.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Of course you don't. I mean why believe the MD that administered the test, interacts with him day to day? You must be clairvoyant and/or a PhD Psychologist with academic training in such types of tests.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) Journalists aren't regarded as those things by everyone, and I would even say not by most people. (and what's wrong with a dog catcher? helps protect the dog and innocent people).

2) Journalists perform a very important job. They are a check on power...the 4th estate. They go into war zones and other hostile territories, cover stories on mob bosses, gangs, and drug kingpins that put their lives in jeopardy, and many have died as a result. More respect is warranted.

3) Right wing gun advocates often say that their right to own a gun is a check on the government. This is silly of course, because the US government has weapons and procedures that can render you helpless or dead despite your AK-47. The PRESS though is a check on the government that can have equal pushback...as long as said government doesn't infringe on the rights of the press or try to undermine its integrity.

4) "The press" has helped uncover bad dealings of politicians from both major parties.

5) Journalists do not as a general rule create fake news, make up sources, etc. As in any industry, you will find a rogue person who does these things, but for the President or anyone else to call CNN "fake news" is bogus beyond belief. CNN, and other major media outlets own up to any mistakes. This President never does, and he lies on average 5.5 times a day publically.

6) If you are a Trump supporter, you may feel that the press is one-sided, but we are in a situation we have never been in before. The President of the United States is being investigated for possible collusion with Russia to affect our election. This is a huge story, and the truth must be uncovered. When the person being investigated (Trump) keeps doing all he can to obstruct, then it makes the smoke even thicker, so they are looking for the fire. The fire is there too, and Mueller knows where it is and what it is.

It will be interesting to see if Mueller will accept to be interviewed one day after this is all over. "When did you know that it was over for Trump?" -- that's the question I want to hear answered.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

You referring to yourself I assume?

EPlC Flagpole wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) Journalists aren't regarded as those things by everyone, and I would even say not by most people. (and what's wrong with a dog catcher? helps protect the dog and innocent people).

2) Journalists perform a very important job. They are a check on power...the 4th estate. They go into war zones and other hostile territories, cover stories on mob bosses, gangs, and drug kingpins that put their lives in jeopardy, and many have died as a result. More respect is warranted.

3) Right wing gun advocates often say that their right to own a gun is a check on the government. This is silly of course, because the US government has weapons and procedures that can render you helpless or dead despite your AK-47. The PRESS though is a check on the government that can have equal pushback...as long as said government doesn't infringe on the rights of the press or try to undermine its integrity.

4) "The press" has helped uncover bad dealings of politicians from both major parties.

5) Journalists do not as a general rule create fake news, make up sources, etc. As in any industry, you will find a rogue person who does these things, but for the President or anyone else to call CNN "fake news" is bogus beyond belief. CNN, and other major media outlets own up to any mistakes. This President never does, and he lies on average 5.5 times a day publically.

6) If you are a Trump supporter, you may feel that the press is one-sided, but we are in a situation we have never been in before. The President of the United States is being investigated for possible collusion with Russia to affect our election. This is a huge story, and the truth must be uncovered. When the person being investigated (Trump) keeps doing all he can to obstruct, then it makes the smoke even thicker, so they are looking for the fire. The fire is there too, and Mueller knows where it is and what it is.

It will be interesting to see if Mueller will accept to be interviewed one day after this is all over. "When did you know that it was over for Trump?" -- that's the question I want to hear answered.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Nothing Bannon says is going to incriminate anyone. Want to put money on it, little guy?

No one is coming for anyone.

Fat hurts wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

OR.............perhaps there isn't any, which is much more likely. if you have data that supports your obvious assumption, please share it.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

There is plenty of data supporting collusion. From Trump Jr's joyous welcoming of Russians at Trump Tower to Jared Kushner's desire for a back channel to the Kremlin, to the numerous other meetings between Trump campaign officials and friends of Putin, it's pretty clear what was going on.

This was the tally I found as of November 22:

* At least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition

* There were at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures

* There were at least 51 communications -- meetings, phone calls, email exchanges and more.

* This flies in the face of at least nine blanket denials from Trump world of ANY contacts with Russia

Collusion has already been proven. But "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself. So we are just waiting to find out who committed what crimes. We already have four indictments and two convictions. There's much more to come.

Flagpole wrote:

Shakey Petey wrote:

The reality is Flagpole, a man of small stature, pompously guaranteed that Trump would not win the presidency and was proved to be a fraud. You would think that he would have gained some humility from that experience, but, alas, he never learned. He has been pompously guaranteeing that Trump was done and Mueller would get him. Instead, after many months, Mueller has come up empty with Trump and what started out as delving into Russian collusion turned into a fishing expedition. Yet, Mueller has come up empty. Flagpole, take your pole and go away. Permanently. Thanks in advance.

1) I didn't realize Mueller had not only finished his investigation but apparently only told you his findings. You should plan to be interviewed soon.

2) If the investigation points toward reasons for the collusion (bribery, criminal financial dealings, etc.) then it is hardly a fishing expedition to go after those things.

3) If collusion (conspiracy) is proven, then I will be right that Trump would not win the election, because if you win by cheating, then that is not a victory (see gold medalists who are found to have doped). So, for NOW I was wrong that he would not win. Time will tell if that is true or not. If he cheated, I was right.

Shakey Petey wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) I didn't realize Mueller had not only finished his investigation but apparently only told you his findings. You should plan to be interviewed soon.

2) If the investigation points toward reasons for the collusion (bribery, criminal financial dealings, etc.) then it is hardly a fishing expedition to go after those things.

3) If collusion (conspiracy) is proven, then I will be right that Trump would not win the election, because if you win by cheating, then that is not a victory (see gold medalists who are found to have doped). So, for NOW I was wrong that he would not win. Time will tell if that is true or not. If he cheated, I was right.

Gold medalists who cheated have their medals STRIPPED from them. They can not have medals to be later STRIPPED from them unless they won those medals in the first place. Trump won the election. If it turns out he colluded (which it won't) he will be removed from office (which he won't be). You Liberals keep hoping something happens to Trump because you hate him with all your guts. Unfortunuately, he is here to stay. Suck it up and enjoy the ride. The economy and stock market are BOOMING!

Flagpole wrote:

Shakey Petey wrote:

Gold medalists who cheated have their medals STRIPPED from them. They can not have medals to be later STRIPPED from them unless they won those medals in the first place. Trump won the election. If it turns out he colluded (which it won't) he will be removed from office (which he won't be). You Liberals keep hoping something happens to Trump because you hate him with all your guts. Unfortunuately, he is here to stay. Suck it up and enjoy the ride. The economy and stock market are BOOMING!

1) No. Wrong. The gold medalists are stripped of their medals and they are removed as winners of the race or event, and then the gold is awarded to the next eligible runner (usually the silver medalist). Same logic here applies. If it is determined that Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia to help him win and help injure Hillary Clinton's chances to win, then he did not win. I even accounted for such crazy anomalies when I said Trump had ZERO chance to win. Don't question me on it or I will pull up a post and prove you wrong.

2) I agree that collusion might not be proven...very hard to do that. I believe we already have evidence of it, but I will wait until I hear from Mueller on that.

3) Yeah, liberals (and many conservatives) hate Donald Trump. It's not too hard to see why. He's a serial liar. He's a racist. He's a sexist. He is at best sexually inappropriate and likely sexually criminal. He is weird and creepy ("If I weren't Ivanka's father I'd probably be dating her" - which basically means he has thought of boning his own daughter.) He attacks the press and judges, basically anyone who ever says anything bad about him. He is a despot wannabe. How can you support that? There is nothing to like about this man.

4) We were already at full employment when Obama left office, and the stock market has rocketed north since 2009. I DO agree that the tax plan has helped the stock market even more in the short term as companies will buy back stock, but that only helps wealthy people like me and is not helping those who really need it and not helping the people Trump said he would help (those who voted for him).

The fact that the economy and the stock market are both doing so well (I agree that they are) while Trump has been in office nearly a year now and yet his approval rating is so low, shows how bad he is and how bad most of us know he is.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Fat hurts wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

OR.............perhaps there isn't any, which is much more likely. if you have data that supports your obvious assumption, please share it.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

There is plenty of data supporting collusion. From Trump Jr's joyous welcoming of Russians at Trump Tower to Jared Kushner's desire for a back channel to the Kremlin, to the numerous other meetings between Trump campaign officials and friends of Putin, it's pretty clear what was going on.

This was the tally I found as of November 22:

* At least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition

* There were at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures

* There were at least 51 communications -- meetings, phone calls, email exchanges and more.

* This flies in the face of at least nine blanket denials from Trump world of ANY contacts with Russia

Collusion has already been proven. But "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself. So we are just waiting to find out who committed what crimes. We already have four indictments and two convictions. There's much more to come.

Shakey Petey wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) No. Wrong. The gold medalists are stripped of their medals and they are removed as winners of the race or event, and then the gold is awarded to the next eligible runner (usually the silver medalist). Same logic here applies. If it is determined that Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia to help him win and help injure Hillary Clinton's chances to win, then he did not win. I even accounted for such crazy anomalies when I said Trump had ZERO chance to win. Don't question me on it or I will pull up a post and prove you wrong.

2) I agree that collusion might not be proven...very hard to do that. I believe we already have evidence of it, but I will wait until I hear from Mueller on that.

3) Yeah, liberals (and many conservatives) hate Donald Trump. It's not too hard to see why. He's a serial liar. He's a racist. He's a sexist. He is at best sexually inappropriate and likely sexually criminal. He is weird and creepy ("If I weren't Ivanka's father I'd probably be dating her" - which basically means he has thought of boning his own daughter.) He attacks the press and judges, basically anyone who ever says anything bad about him. He is a despot wannabe. How can you support that? There is nothing to like about this man.

4) We were already at full employment when Obama left office, and the stock market has rocketed north since 2009. I DO agree that the tax plan has helped the stock market even more in the short term as companies will buy back stock, but that only helps wealthy people like me and is not helping those who really need it and not helping the people Trump said he would help (those who voted for him).

The fact that the economy and the stock market are both doing so well (I agree that they are) while Trump has been in office nearly a year now and yet his approval rating is so low, shows how bad he is and how bad most of us know he is.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

"They are removed as winners..." Pay attention to that. You can't "remove" a winner unless he or she won in the first place. Yes?