Sandra Vi going for record across America

Reel deel wrote:

Basement neckbeard wrote:

So is everyone just going to ignore the fact Pete came in here to tell us Mimi is the real deal?

Which is an opinion based on past accolades given to her for obscure events arranged and conducted by her URC fanclub.

That's next level delusion. Badwater was a URC race?Spartathalon?

I've read all of this - interesting stuff.

Can I make a dew of points

Fake data:

It seems to be implied that randomly creating cadence and HR (even between a range) will provide decent scammed data. In my humble opinion, it won't. Pace, cadence and elevation (or more accurately, elevation change) need to be taken into account. Otherwise I think it will be easy to pick holes in the scammed data. We all know our HR goes up when going up a hill and down when going down a hill (at a given pace) for example. In my opinion, this is not a trivial task to fake.

Strava followers/likes/comments:

Mimi said in the MarathonTalk interview (I think it was that - it could have been a different interview) that she didn't use Strava and set up an account specifically for this challenge. I don't really want to mention age, but could this be simply an age thing - Sandra is younger and more into "kudos", whereas Mimi doesn't care so much about that side of things, and so doesn't follow many people? What this has got to do with "outing" her as a cheater, I don't really know.

Uploading to Strava:

I am just what some on here would term a "hobby jogger", with a few marathons under my belt. In the last 6 weeks, I've been using a Garmin 230 to upload to Strava using my mobile after a race. If 1-sec tracking is set up on the Garmin, it can take half an hour or more, even in good mobile coverage, to upload. I've done two marathons since having the device, with 1-minute tracking turned on, and this has happened both times in good reception areas (4G). In my opinion, just from my own experience of uploading data, the fact that AT&T has good reception does not necessarily mean that it's easy/quick to upload to Strava.

The team:

I know for everyone, Strava data is part of what will make the record stand or not, and getting it on in a timely manner is important. But surely the team are quite busy doing other things. Even if they take the devices off of Mimi and try and upload immediately (which, to be honest, seems very unlikely) there can still be a delay as mentioned above. If the team are busy doing other things (Richard from RD said that they are having 4hrs sleep a night or something?), delays can happen.

Conclusion:

I really do not think Mimi (or anyone) is faking the Strava data. I think that's a red herring, but if I'm proved wrong, so be it. I can't explain the turning off of trackers. It could be something simple like the tracker wasn't working, so they turned it off to save battery, and then forgot to turn it back on again? Not a satisfactory answer, but a possibility, surely.

Basically, I think there is a lot of noise and actually no evidence of any wrong doing at all. I am hopeful that Mimi is doing the right thing here. To "out myself", I was initially hopeful about RY too, but quickly changed my probably about 100 pages in to that thread. With Amy, I never cared as she's just annoying!

Yeah - uploading an hour long jog to strava takes about 30 seconds on broadband internet. No idea how long it'd take using intermittent cell phone data. And Mimi's runs are quite a bit longer than an hour.

>I just don't buy this arrest thing. I'm a Brit, would they really arrest you in America for that?

Unlikely - they'd probably just get shot [1]

[1]:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/07/17/an-australian-family-tries-to-understand-why-an-american-police-officer-killed-their-daughter/?utm_term=.a0b81ab7e50e

Where I said "1-minute tracking" above, I meant "1-second tracking".

I have no personal experience of these type of events. Can someone point out what tasks the team may be doing? This is nothing to do with outing a cheater, but I am just interested.

> Maybe. These are very odd and occurring at junctions of roads. They are not random because of that. They are planned. There are far too many to be water stops and pit stops.

Eh? Sounds like someone hasn't done a multi day ultra

She's running across America. It's dry and hot. She has to stay alive and on her feet for another month of 60-mile days.

"They are planned" - very likely! Without a plan for something like this you'd fail.

"There are far too many to be water stops and pit stops." - You'd be surprised how many water stops and pit stops you need in an ultra. Then there's the philosophy that you never run uphill in an ultra. And that aside, I reckon I'd take a break or two if I were running across America.

"Can someone point out what tasks the team may be doing?"

So the trackers showed 2 vehicles - 1 RV and 1 support car. Pete Kostelnick's support team was (I think) 1 car and 1 RV strong too.

I guess the support car (2 crew?) would be pretty close to Mimi all the time to keep her safe and supplied and collecting witness statements. I'd guess there'd be a driver and the physiotherapist?

The RV is probably going to be moved between stopping points with the crew doing the admin - cleaning, getting food, fuel, finding people to act as witnesses, dumping sewerage, laundry, finding a safe place to stop overnight, etc.

The Pete K post adds a new dimension as he is a very credible (and experienced!) dude

I agree going back over old data is useless at this point

I honestly think the only solution is boots on the ground for a few days. It'll be easy to tell what's going on if that happens

St Marker wrote:

The Pete K post adds a new dimension as he is a very credible (and experienced!) dude

I agree going back over old data is useless at this point

I honestly think the only solution is boots on the ground for a few days. It'll be easy to tell what's going on if that happens

LRC does not do boots on the ground.

You're saying one thing - disrespecting LRC - but your author-name is "Mimi is a liar"?

Mimi is a liar wrote:

St Marker wrote:

The Pete K post adds a new dimension as he is a very credible (and experienced!) dude

I agree going back over old data is useless at this point

I honestly think the only solution is boots on the ground for a few days. It'll be easy to tell what's going on if that happens

LRC does not do boots on the ground.

LRC just does conspiracy theories and keyboard warrioring

Mimi is a liar wrote:

St Marker wrote:

The Pete K post adds a new dimension as he is a very credible (and experienced!) dude

I agree going back over old data is useless at this point

I honestly think the only solution is boots on the ground for a few days. It'll be easy to tell what's going on if that happens

LRC does not do boots on the ground.

And the ultralist, which does do boots on the ground, haven’t questioned Mimi’s credibility like they did RY’s because they understand multiday running and know the ultra scene.

Ultra Curious wrote:

Eh? Sounds like someone hasn't done a multi day ultra

Nobody here runs multi day ultra but our experience in 5k and long 10k races make us experts in all things.

Mimi is a liar wrote:

LRC does not do boots on the ground.

I'm writing a phone app that will be a virtual boots on the ground but won't be done before mimi. I have excellent results so far. I can track anyone 100% as the cross through my moms basement.

basement dweller wrote:

I'm writing a phone app that will be a virtual boots on the ground but won't be done before mimi. I have excellent results so far. I can track anyone 100% as the cross through my moms basement.

A bit like ScamW's "fake strava data creation" app, which will provide precisely nothing....

Updater wrote:

The trans-con artists like their path because it only exposes them to boots on the ground at the beginning and the end since 95% of LRC are in coastal states. Asher and Laz are exceptions; hopefully either they or someone like them can engage Mimi and her troupe before it arrives in NYC..

basement dweller wrote:

LRC is all talk still no boots on the ground.

95% in coastal states isn't right. MiMi will pass north of Wichita on Monday. Surely LRC has someone in Wichita?

Fake Laz posts on LRC but IIRC Laz has never posted here.

knower of things2 wrote:

Updater wrote:

The trans-con artists like their path because it only exposes them to boots on the ground at the beginning and the end since 95% of LRC are in coastal states. Asher and Laz are exceptions; hopefully either they or someone like them can engage Mimi and her troupe before it arrives in NYC..

http://kids.britannica.com/students/assembly/view/65679

95% in coastal states isn't right. MiMi will pass north of Wichita on Monday. Surely LRC has someone in Wichita?

Fake Laz posts on LRC but IIRC Laz has never posted here.

Folks here surely have contacts outside of LRC though, post on their forums or fb pages, get some word of mouth going to prove those miles are being done right

Basement neckbeard wrote:

Mimi is a liar wrote:

LRC does not do boots on the ground.

LRC just does conspiracy theories and keyboard warrioring

But also making sure Brit spoofers go home devastated!!!!

St Marker wrote:

But also making sure Brit spoofers go home devastated!!!!

Not 100% true, now is it? The whole point/tone of the first post in this thread was to discredit Sandy. Typical LR fodder.