David Roche GOES HOME DEVASTATED from Western States

PNWundertaker wrote:

weird take wrote:

No, what's bizarre is your foaming-at-the-mouth obsession with Roche and his wife, then obsessively posting propaganda about them. To be clear for the dim-witted (you), by "propaganda" I mean outright lies at every turn.

You have posted 53 times under this username, and shockingly (not) EVERY SINGLE ONE has been some screed about Roche. Are you Runforthehillz under a different user name? Or just another right-wing troll who hopefully doesn't have access to guns?

As has been said ad nauseam but you're lying about (or too dumb for it to register), the Roches (a) haven't taken on new coaching clients other than pro runners in ages, and (b) their income isn't based on coaching.

Oh, they also coach two of America's best road marathoners: Jess McLain (top 3 I'd say) and Christian Allen (top 10-15 with his 2:10 this year but I'd say capable of much higher if he wasn't so focused on trails and ultras). Not to mention literally a legion of top ultra, trail and mountain runners, and for many years. Just because you have an unhinged hatred of them doesn't make them bad coaches, as much as you wish that were true.

All the other stuff in your silly screed isn't particularly worth addressed. It's all exaggerated or outright lies. It's also stupid and you know it (or should). The dog jokes were funny in context but of course you breathlessly report this to LRC as if it represents something sinister. Oddly, you didn't seem to have a problem with the jokes about what salad dressing they would F. I guess you don't care about salad dressings?

Well you’re also a frigging weirdo for going back and counting the exact number of times this person has posted. Aren’t you just as much of an obsessive weirdo for your defense of Roche and the fact that you’re spending hours of time trying to figure out how many posts people have made disparaging him? You seem to be making claims like you personally know DR so I guess I’ll ask - are you him or someone close to him? Your squawking on this post seems to show that you’re very familiar with the ins and outs of the Roches life.

weird take wrote:

PNWundertaker wrote:

Well you’re also a frigging weirdo for going back and counting the exact number of times this person has posted. Aren’t you just as much of an obsessive weirdo for your defense of Roche and the fact that you’re spending hours of time trying to figure out how many posts people have made disparaging him? You seem to be making claims like you personally know DR so I guess I’ll ask - are you him or someone close to him? Your squawking on this post seems to show that you’re very familiar with the ins and outs of the Roches life.

Nice try, moron. If you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd know that there is a search tool at the very top of this page (omg, there is?!) and I put the user name into it. Took me all of 5 seconds. You guys really are breathtakingly stupid.

weird take wrote:

Ultra_Experienced wrote:

There is no doubt that both Megs and David are talented runners. Quad Dipsea is not a "standard race" per se, but remember both have made the US Mountain Running team at some point. With all their Treadmills and the pee bucket in the gym room (as well as child care and DoorDash) they seemingly have plenty of time and resources to train.

I do agree with Black Snake Moana that the coaching business is built more on personality than science. And they are also apparently very well off financially. Perhaps both families came from extreme wealth?

But where things differ compared to the typical "ego driven Boulderite who drives a Subaru" (weird flex as a Subaru is not that nice of a car) is the online projections for gaining more power and followings by making outlandish claims:

"4:00 min per mile fitness and sub 14 for 5km at altitude" [Despite never running a track race in his life].

"2:10 marathon or so" [David has run maybe a 31-min 10km in his one official road race].

"150grams of carbs per hour" [Make sure to buy All The Carbs from THE FEED...omg we also eat soooo many cheese burgers and taco bell and ALL the pints of ice cream and plates of wings!!!]

"Personal and Individual Coaching" [from basically a template static plan with a couple "AWESOME SAUCE" and "AmazeBallz" comments added once a week....]

"You're AWESOME!! You're AMAZING!! and The BEST!!" [said to everyone]. The whole world runs on CARBS AND LOVE! [omg I found a heart shaped rock out on my run and it told me to just "BELIEVE!!]

[The self deprecating jokes and potty-sex "humor" in an attempt to appear not as ego driven and narcissistic while making a plea for authenticity]

[talking about which dog breeds they would prefer to personally f**k on their podcast in the opening minutes and having their cult following clan not even blink an eye about how ridiculous this content is]

No, what's bizarre is your foaming-at-the-mouth obsession with Roche and his wife, then obsessively posting propaganda about them. To be clear for the dim-witted (you), by "propaganda" I mean outright lies at every turn.

You have posted 53 times under this username, and shockingly (not) EVERY SINGLE ONE has been some screed about Roche. Are you Runforthehillz under a different user name? Or just another right-wing troll who hopefully doesn't have access to guns?

As has been said ad nauseam but you're lying about (or too dumb for it to register), the Roches (a) haven't taken on new coaching clients other than pro runners in ages, and (b) their income isn't based on coaching.

Oh, they also coach two of America's best road marathoners: Jess McLain (top 3 I'd say) and Christian Allen (top 10-15 with his 2:10 this year but I'd say capable of much higher if he wasn't so focused on trails and ultras). Not to mention literally a legion of top ultra, trail and mountain runners, and for many years. Just because you have an unhinged hatred of them doesn't make them bad coaches, as much as you wish that were true.

All the other stuff in your silly screed isn't particularly worth addressed. It's all exaggerated or outright lies. It's also stupid and you know it (or should). The dog jokes were funny in context but of course you breathlessly report this to LRC as if it represents something sinister. Oddly, you didn't seem to have a problem with the jokes about what salad dressing they would F. I guess you don't care about salad dressings?

Ultra_Experienced wrote:

weird take wrote:

No, what's bizarre is your foaming-at-the-mouth obsession with Roche and his wife, then obsessively posting propaganda about them. To be clear for the dim-witted (you), by "propaganda" I mean outright lies at every turn.

You have posted 53 times under this username, and shockingly (not) EVERY SINGLE ONE has been some screed about Roche. Are you Runforthehillz under a different user name? Or just another right-wing troll who hopefully doesn't have access to guns?

As has been said ad nauseam but you're lying about (or too dumb for it to register), the Roches (a) haven't taken on new coaching clients other than pro runners in ages, and (b) their income isn't based on coaching.

Oh, they also coach two of America's best road marathoners: Jess McLain (top 3 I'd say) and Christian Allen (top 10-15 with his 2:10 this year but I'd say capable of much higher if he wasn't so focused on trails and ultras). Not to mention literally a legion of top ultra, trail and mountain runners, and for many years. Just because you have an unhinged hatred of them doesn't make them bad coaches, as much as you wish that were true.

All the other stuff in your silly screed isn't particularly worth addressed. It's all exaggerated or outright lies. It's also stupid and you know it (or should). The dog jokes were funny in context but of course you breathlessly report this to LRC as if it represents something sinister. Oddly, you didn't seem to have a problem with the jokes about what salad dressing they would F. I guess you don't care about salad dressings?

What exactly have I posted that was untrue? humor me.

The whole reason this thread keeps getting bumped and new ones form is because the Roches are seemingly ridiculous people that post outlandish things. And some of us outside the cult will call out that bullsh!t.

But how do you know that they "haven't taken on new coaching clients other than pro runners in ages"? Are you their Mom? I never said their income was based on coaching. I said they came from wealthy families...

Oh and btw I'm a left winger myself. But (apparently unlike the Roches) I believe that "the science actually shows" that a Trans Woman is biologically (and athletically) NOT a Woman and therefore should not compete in a Women's category in sport. Because this is about fairness, science and logic \n.