Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or &quot

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Ok how are you feeling now?

Are you ready to go?

I'm about to drive to Philly in two days to have a bilateral repair with left adductor release with Dr Meyers, I would love to hear from any of his patients who had a good recovery or not from the procedure. Thanks a lot.

chris

Well im not sure if I have a sports hernia or not. Maybe someone can help me out here.

Pain with sudden movements like the burst of a sprint, juke moves in football. Also pain in groin when doing jump in jacks.

Ok so my main problem seems to be pain the left testicle when I squeeze my legs together, like if im sitting at a desk I can also take my left leg and bend it inwards to try and make my left knee tough my right and this can trigger a sharp nerve type pain in the groin.

Its very painful and sharp, and once it happens the whole area of the groin feels a little weaker for say 10 mins to a few hours.

But the main pain is testicle pain with sudden movements and it feels like nerve type pain. Its shapr and sudden, happens also if I get up real quick from say a car. I cant do full height jumps usually without the sudden sharp pain also.

Theres a little bulge when I cough that pops out also, so not sure if this is sports hernia or regular hernia. My other side also can have the same symptoms its just not as bad, same testicle and sometimes even penis pain.

I have had this for around 10 years now and im only 24 years old. Dont know how it happened but its gradually gotton worse over the years. What does this sound like guys? Thanks

johnny, i work in nyc. just sent you an email. thanks.

Johnny, very interesting to hear you mention the hip labrum tears. The MRI that Dr. Meyers had me undergo in Philly showed "bilateral anterosuperior labral tears with paralabral cysts."

Meyers didn't seem too worried about the labrum tears, but on my first visit to him someone I met in the waiting room mentioned Dr. Kelly to me and noted that hip problems and AP are often related.

Who told you that the labrum tears probably contributed to the AP? Curious about this, as I never really had hip pain until the last few weeks. My problems started in the lower abdominal region on the right side and spread to the groin and then the left abs.

Thanks!

Has anyone had a failed procedure by Dr. Cattey. I am getting re-occuring pubic bone pain over 1 year post op!!

Just had mine done with David Lloyd.

Laproscopic. Very happy with results. Brused still and hurts when I cough but only had surgery 3 days ago.

www.lloydrelease.com

I don't know if this thread is still "alive"....but I'll give it a try anyway...

I've read thru a bit of this thread - not all - and I'm a bit confused by it all but I have a question.

Friday I got a diagnosis of:

Right sacral ala stress fracture

AND

Sportman's hernia/athletic pubalgia

on the Sports Hernia the complete words were:

There is edema on both sides of the pubis symphysis, which is also involving both common rectus abdominis and adductor aponeurosis, consistent with athletic pubalgia/sportman's hernia. This is more severe on the right. There are bilateral synovial herniation pits in the anterolateral femoral head neck junctions.

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My hunch is I got all this running a marathon in November (2:39-PR) as the symptoms started about 1 week after the marathon. I though I was dealing with Piriphormis Syndrome for a while until I got the MRI results back.

I'm a 41 year old and been running about 3 years - and would really like to keep at it..

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My doctor didn't seem to know much of anything about either of these and just said take some time off running and try again.....looks good for the stress fracture but I'm becoming less optomistic about the Sportsman Hernia the more I read....

From reading the thread I'm wondering a couple things...

1) I noted a couple people talk about the combo Sportsman Hernia and the Right Sacral Stress Fracture...Does the combo diagnosis mean something.....one guy back at page two (Batman - who's symptoms sound identical) suggested changing shoes could fix the whole problem.

2) I'm gathering this Sportsman's Hernia is not something that can be diagnosed by an MRI so how is it that I can get that diagnosis from an MRI. The symptoms I see described - abdomin/testicle pain - don't sound familar at all to me...

Any knowledgable help is appreciated - obviously I'm off for a while with the stress fracture but I'm wondering if I should be aggressively seeking resolution to this sportsman's hernia so its not an additional time off after teh sfx heals up...

There is some valuable info about sports hernia on a doctor's website at http://www.SportsHerniaSouth.com. There is information about the anatomy of sports hernia, and how it can be treated with rehabilitation before deciding that sports hernia surgery is needed. I haven't used this sports hernia surgeon who created the web site, Jeffrey Hoadley MD, so I cannot recommend him, but he has experience with NFL and college teams treating groin pain and doing sports hernia surgery for athletes primarily from the southeast US. There is also a list of many articles and medical journals that discuss sports hernia. I'm doing my own research on sports hernia to determine if it is the cause of my groin pain.

Sports Hernia vs. Althletic Pubalgia - there is a difference...although the line is thin.

Okay, you may be asking, "Who is this guy? How does he know this?" First, I am not a doctor, not even a once-medical student. I'm just a guy suffering from this insidious ailment like all of you. I have spent the last 8 months reading all 80+ pages of this forum, not once, not twice, but three separate times, from front to back - collecting data, researching it, cross-referencing it and sometimes emailing some of my fellow sufferers just to ask questions and compare painful notes.

Here is the conclusion I have reached - and if you would rather read something else instead of reading what I have to say, check this out:

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20011015/1405.html

There IS a difference with Athletic Pubalgia and a Sports Hernia. (I actually saw this evidenced in a publication by Meyers showing a flowchart of "how" to decipher a patient's pain, and there was a clear delineation between AP and SH - a fine line at that, but it was there.)

Cut to the chase:

Athletic Pubalgia - muscles tears or stresses at the insertion point on the pubic joint.

Sports Hernia - inguinal wall deficiencies and weaknesses, plus surrounding soft tissue disruptions.

There are countless stories here of everybody going to see any number of specialist across the globe, with a variety of procedures performed on them and with varying degrees of success. Some talk about tears at their rectus abdominus muscles and the adductor release - Athletic Pubalgia. Some mention how their posterior inguinal canal wall was shredded or the transversalis fascia was stretched or torn - Sports Hernia. More importantly, a Sports Hernia follows the more closely related track of an "occult hernia" - a true disruption in or around the inguinal canal that does not show a bulge. So for those of you who saw a regular hernia specialist and he did a mesh repair or pure tissue repair and you feel great, you more than likely had an "occult hernia" or "incomplete hernia". For those that had MRI's done and they CLEARLY showed tears at the insertion point on the pubic joint, you got the procedure that fixed that. Then...there are a few who are truly unfortunate to have both - muscle tears at the pubic joint that caused enough instability that the muscles and tissue around the inguinal canal got torn trying to overcompensate. Ouch!!! Those are the really tough cases. I bring this to light as it is ever so important to get a CLEAR and ACCURATE diagnosis. I have read how many have gone to see Meyers, and when his procedure didn't bring relief, they went to Muschaweck and then they had success, or vice versa. The same with any of the other SH/AP specialists that many have seen or referenced here - you go to one, get something done, it doesn't work, then you go to see another specialist and he fixes it.

From my research and experiences, it seems to follow these lines:

Meyers - Athletic Pubalgia. If you have tears in the pubic joint insertion-point muscles and nothing else - he is your man!

Muschaweck - Sports Hernia. If you have ultrasound verified disruptions directly along the inguinal canal - she is your best bet.

Cattey - Sports hernia. He seems to be more of a mesh man and that is clearly a hernia type repair. No amount of mesh laid on top of a torn insertion-point muscle is going to reattach that muscle.

Now, some of these doctors may dabble into the other areas that are not their forte, but I haven't seen alot of information here or elsewhere that they do that on a regular basis.

(Sorry if I didn't mention the great doctor that worked on you. I'm sure there are plenty of "hidden jewels" of surgeons out there that know exactly what they are doing, but for whatever reason their names have not been mentioned enough on this forum)

The problem that is often encountered is that the inguinal canal/myopectineal orifice practically sits upon the insertion point for the muscles coming into the pubic joint, thus, I believe, people often get some wrong diagnoses and a wrong procedure done and find that they are searching out the 'other' specialist months or years later to correct the original problem. I'm sure there are quite a few at this forum who can attest to that.

What I am saying is this...ASK ALOT OF QUESTIONS...to whomever you choose to see. After all, it is the ONLY body you have and more than likely you will be paying the bill. Also, get that second opinion. Yes, I know you are in pain and what relief now, but it is even more painful to go with the first doctor that sells you on his procedure only to find out - "Hey, I still feel like crap, nothing has changed" - and then you have to find another doctor to go back in and operate again. Ouch!!

Where am I in all of this? I have already seen one of the big names mentioned here (I may post more about that experience here later) and I feel I need to see the other one now. I still am in pain. I can't do many things in my daily life now but any operation for me is going to be a one shot deal. It has already been determined that any procedure I get will be a nearly 100% out-of-pocket expense, so I need to choose the right one the first time around.

I hope this information proves useful to anyone who is starting to research things or just needs a little boost to continue the fight to find more information or to find that right doctor that will bring peace and relief back into your life.

Here is to a better tomorrow!

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Hi All,

I've wondered for quite a while if I might have a minor sports hernia. I feel like there is some extra looseness in something in my extreme lower abs on the right side. It does not cause me much pain at all. If I stop and pay attention I can feel a very minor ache radiating from the area.

My chief complaint is that I have lost some fluidity in my stride. In a way that is hard for me to define, my right leg does not line up the right way. I've done ab work and stretching ad infinitum and it doesn't help. It feels as if some crucial structural component is not holding things tightly into place, and no matter how strong the surrounding muscles are, I can't correct for it. In contrast, the left side seems very, very tight. When this problem came on, I started to get slower, and I think it is due to a loss of efficiency in my gait.

A general surgeon ruled out a normal hernia, but my right nut is slightly descended and it didn't used to be. I'm wondering if this is similar to any of your experiences and who you would recommend seeing to rule out or confirm that I have a sports hernia. I live in the Western U.S.

Thanks in advance.

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Has anyone had a sore hip after attempting a comeback post mesh repair for SH? Snapping hip?

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I would like to bump this great thread and I also want an update from the guy who went to germany.

And of course I wanna know how Johnny feels.

Why isn´t this site working???

This thread is the best in the world and it needs to grow!

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My apologies. This thread is back up again. If you get asked a question to post the answer is Tim Culpepper.