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    Real Obvi

    Member since 09/17/2020.

    5,578 posts. Last post 6 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 9:56pm EDT
    re: canadian

    canadian wrote:

    I personally remember when there were no checkpoints in Gaza other than the basic ones you would see anywhere when people pass from one country to another. What happened? Terror happened. The USA had ONE terror attack and promptly invaded TWO far-off countries, not a threat to the USA , killing thousands. Threats to Israel are three feet away as we have seen.

    Gonna need a bit of a fact check on that point. You're right wrt Iraq. But your claim is absurd wrt Afghanistan. Afghanistan was the home of the group that took down the Twin Towers. Seems like a threat to me.

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    TheAdultInTheRoom

    Member since 05/13/2021.

    20,471 posts. Last post 10 hours ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 9:57pm EDT
    re: Rob Palleschi

    Rob Palleschi wrote:

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    Come on now let's be real. Most black women have nothing to do with their fathers.

    And yes your propensity for violence for stupid reasons is well known.

    Did you really just say that ? What a racist comment.

    Facts aren't racist even if they hurt your feelings.

  • Nnonequalsweekend

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 9:58pm EDT
    re: Nnonequalsweekend

    Nnonequalsweekend wrote:

    Trollminator wrote:

    *by all means necessary... where do you draw the line? Drop an atom bomb on Gaza?

    FYI, my official answer: The line is before that.

    (I like to take courageous stands!)

    BTW, it seems to me that Israel’s arguably heavy-handed, perhaps at least semi-oppressive treatment of Gaza was thoroughly validated by this attack. Hamas managed that much capability despite Israel squeezing them. Imagine what Hamas would have (and no doubt use) if Israel loosened up?

    I love the idea of Israel stopping the settlement BS, sealing as best possible both of their Palestinian boarders, and being done with it. Unfortunately, this attack strongly suggests that doing so might be suicidal.

  • Nnonequalsweekend

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:05pm EDT
    re: Trollminator

    Trollminator wrote:

    Nnonequalsweekend wrote:

    FYI, my official answer: The line is before that.

    (I like to take courageous stands!)

    I struggle with this.

    How many people here actually believe Israel can destroy Hamas like this?

    Worst case, they can’t get rid of Hamas, but tons of people on both sides die in the effort

    Best case, they can get rid of Hamas, but tons (and perhaps tons more) die, AND WHAT REPLACES IT ??

    But god, it’s gotta be damn hard. They appear to have missed A LOT of Hamas stuff going on in Gaza, despite a lot of resources and effort. And now you’re going to manage to completely eliminate it?

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    Rick Cheney

    Member since 10/24/2019.

    2,735 posts. Last post 3 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:10pm EDT
    re: TheAdultInTheRoom

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    Rob Palleschi wrote:

    Did you really just say that ? What a racist comment.

    Facts aren't racist even if they hurt your feelings.

    Please provide a link/evidence to support your claim then. Facts over feelings right? Where are the facts?

  • Nnonequalsweekend

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:12pm EDT
    re: Nnonequalsweekend

    Nnonequalsweekend wrote:

    Trollminator wrote:

    I struggle with this.

    How many people here actually believe Israel can destroy Hamas like this?

    Worst case, they can’t get rid of Hamas, but tons of people on both sides die in the effort

    Best case, they can get rid of Hamas, but tons (and perhaps tons more) die, AND WHAT REPLACES IT ??

    But god, it’s gotta be damn hard. They appear to have missed A LOT of Hamas stuff going on in Gaza, despite a lot of resources and effort. And now you’re going to manage to completely eliminate it?

    And, of course, don’t worry about what a handful of morans (and perhaps a few fakers) here think. All that matters is what Netty and his generals think and do.

  • Yusef FA

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:13pm EDT
    re: Real Obvi

    Real Obvi wrote:

    Yusef FA wrote:

    I’m serious. ...

    Which proves my point

    Watch your back bro. Those totally real and not made up radical Muslim friends of yours are coming for you. Lol

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    TheAdultInTheRoom

    Member since 05/13/2021.

    20,471 posts. Last post 10 hours ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:17pm EDT
    re: Rick Cheney

    Rick Cheney wrote:

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    Facts aren't racist even if they hurt your feelings.

    Please provide a link/evidence to support your claim then. Facts over feelings right? Where are the facts?

    It's 2023 and you need to be shown these things?? Jesus...

    afro.com
    Census Bureau: Higher Percentage of Black Children Live with Single Mothers
    Zenitha Prince
    A disproportionate number of Black children under 18 live in single-parent homes, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau. (CanStock Photo) In its annual “America’s Families and Living Arrangements” […]
    Link:afro.com/census-bureau-higher-percenta...

    These statistics also roll into anyone with dark skin into the "African-American" category. If you exclude African immigrants who don't share the broken culture of native African-Americans the numbers are much much worse.

    ucr.fbi.gov
    Link:ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crim...

  • Here we go again

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:17pm EDT
    re: TheDoltInTheRoom

    TheDoltInTheRoom wrote:

    Here we go again wrote:

    The land was barren. It’s not like there was thriving cities that were demolished to make way.

    Palestinians/Ottomans lost the land to the British. All losers in war lose land and that’s just how it’s been forever.

    Jews have a historical claim to the land and have been expelled themselves 5+ times over the millenniums before Islam was even a thing.

    People act like 1948 was the origin of all this. Please zoom out.

    Also ask why no country wants the Palestinians.

    Apparently no country wanted the Jews either if they kept being expelled. By your "reasoning" we should be asking why that is.

    Oof. Comparisons are not your strength so let me help.

    Jews were rejected by racists, ant-semites and conquering armies. Palestinians are rejected by all other Arab Muslims.

    See the difference?

  • Here we go again

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:25pm EDT
    re: Here we go again

    Here we go again wrote:

    If you’re an American poo pooing on Israel, I expect you to lead by example and give the occupied land you “own” back to the Native Americans.

    Ok, just finished dinner. Who volunteered first? New Lame? 3643631? Trump Bro? Real Dumi?

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    I am a Trump guy

    Member since 07/04/2021.

    684 posts. Last post 7 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:39pm EDT
    re: Here we go again

    Here we go again wrote:

    Here we go again wrote:

    If you’re an American poo pooing on Israel, I expect you to lead by example and give the occupied land you “own” back to the Native Americans.

    Ok, just finished dinner. Who volunteered first? New Lame? 3643631? Trump Bro? Real Dumi?

    I’m not simping for either of them, unlike your talk. All talk.

    AMERICA FIRST no more handouts for Israel.

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    Rick Cheney

    Member since 10/24/2019.

    2,735 posts. Last post 3 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:42pm EDT
    re: TheAdultInTheRoom

    TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

    Rick Cheney wrote:

    Please provide a link/evidence to support your claim then. Facts over feelings right? Where are the facts?

    It's 2023 and you need to be shown these things?? Jesus...

    Link:afro.com/census-bureau-higher-percenta...

    These statistics also roll into anyone with dark skin into the "African-American" category. If you exclude African immigrants who don't share the broken culture of native African-Americans the numbers are much much worse.

    Link:ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crim...

    no I just wanted to make you spend the time and effort to hunt that down you punk a$$ b!tch.

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    Avner

    Member since 07/02/2021.

    468 posts. Last post 6 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:45pm EDT
    re: Here we go again

    Here we go again wrote:

    TheDoltInTheRoom wrote:

    Apparently no country wanted the Jews either if they kept being expelled. By your "reasoning" we should be asking why that is.

    Oof. Comparisons are not your strength so let me help.

    Jews were rejected by racists, ant-semites and conquering armies. Palestinians are rejected by all other Arab Muslims.

    See the difference?

    No.

    US turned Holocaust survivors away.

    smithsonianmag.com
    The U.S. Government Turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies
    @readwriteradio
    In a long tradition of “persecuting the refugee,” the State Department and FDR claimed that Jewish immigrants could threaten national security
    Link:www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-gove...

    We turn Ethiopian Jews away.

    trtworld.com
    Israel to expel Black Hebrew Israelites
    @trtworld
    Despite living in Israel for decades, Black Hebrew Israelites are being judged as not being authentically Jewish and face deportation as a result.
    Link:www.trtworld.com/magazine/israel-to-ex...

    We even had Jews collaborate with the Nazis.

    timesofisrael.com
    The Jew who worked for the Nazis and hunted down refugees in WWII Greece | The Times of Israel
    The story of Vital Hasson, leader of Thessaloniki's Jewish police who sent families -- and his own relatives -- to Auschwitz, shows that identity doesn't always determine destiny
    Link:www.timesofisrael.com/the-jew-who-work...

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    douglas burke

    Member since 11/21/2010.

    12,456 posts. Last post 1 day ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 10:49pm EDT
    re: Avner

    Avner wrote:

    Here we go again wrote:

    Oof. Comparisons are not your strength so let me help.

    Jews were rejected by racists, ant-semites and conquering armies. Palestinians are rejected by all other Arab Muslims.

    See the difference?

    No.

    US turned Holocaust survivors away.

    Link:www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-gove...

    We turn Ethiopian Jews away.

    Link:www.trtworld.com/magazine/israel-to-ex...

    We even had Jews collaborate with the Nazis.

    Link:www.timesofisrael.com/the-jew-who-work...
    Yes they have not been good to Ethiopian Jews.
    theguardian.com
    Ethiopian women in Israel 'given contraceptive without consent'
    https://www.theguardian.com/profile/phoebe-greenwood
    Israel's health ministry is investigating claims that Ethiopian immigrants have unwittingly had Depo-Provera jabs for years
    Link:www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/...

  • Here we go again

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:05pm EDT
    re: Avner

    Avner wrote:

    Here we go again wrote:

    Oof. Comparisons are not your strength so let me help.

    Jews were rejected by racists, ant-semites and conquering armies. Palestinians are rejected by all other Arab Muslims.

    See the difference?

    No.

    US turned Holocaust survivors away.

    Link:www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-gove...

    We turn Ethiopian Jews away.

    Link:www.trtworld.com/magazine/israel-to-ex...

    We even had Jews collaborate with the Nazis.

    Link:www.timesofisrael.com/the-jew-who-work...

    wut? Did you respond to the wrong person?

  • Here we go again

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:07pm EDT
    re: Avner

    Avner, I’d like to give you the honor of being the first person to take me up on giving your home back to the Native Americans.

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    Avner

    Member since 07/02/2021.

    468 posts. Last post 6 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:17pm EDT
    re: Here we go again

    Here we go again wrote:

    Avner wrote:

    No.

    US turned Holocaust survivors away.

    Link:www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-gove...

    We turn Ethiopian Jews away.

    Link:www.trtworld.com/magazine/israel-to-ex...

    We even had Jews collaborate with the Nazis.

    Link:www.timesofisrael.com/the-jew-who-work...

    wut? Did you respond to the wrong person?

    No

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    Avner

    Member since 07/02/2021.

    468 posts. Last post 6 months ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:18pm EDT
    re: Here we go again

    Here we go again wrote:

    Avner, I’d like to give you the honor of being the first person to take me up on giving your home back to the Native Americans.

    Don’t sell yourself short like this. You can follow the line of conversation I replied to.

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    Ghost of Disco Gary

    Member since 02/19/2021.

    12,360 posts. Last post 11 hours ago.
    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:28pm EDT
    re: Newname

    Newname, the LR King of all Anti-Semites, supports Hamas.

  • Here we go again

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 10/12/2023 11:47pm EDT
    re: Avner

    Avner wrote:

    Here we go again wrote:

    Avner, I’d like to give you the honor of being the first person to take me up on giving your home back to the Native Americans.

    Don’t sell yourself short like this. You can follow the line of conversation I replied to.

    I really can’t.

    Jews being expelled by conquering armies and European anti-semites is not the same as an Arab Muslims refusing to take in a group of Arab Muslims. Egypt built a wall ffs. I really don’t see how any of your articles undo this point?

    Find me a group of Israeli Jews that ALL OTHER ISRAELI JEWS refuse to take in and they will be an apt comparison.

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