This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
I'm not even a lib. Why are we making this about politics? It's the Trump vaccine after all...
Canceling and censoring is the domain of a liberal who can't handle the debate. Who cares whose vaccine it was?
I haven't cancelled or censored anyone. I'm not a lib. I love Trump's vaccine. This is not a political debate along standard left/right lines – let's agree to that!
Remember, the comparison groups here are already very well protected — the booster is working great!
Remember you said this study is a "waste of money"
Read: "My dogma is solidified and anything that attempts show evidence against it is useless!"
I wouldn't be so openly bragging that I have zero desire for critical thinking. But.... we have different standards we hold ourselves too.
A study, with all kinds of confounders, that suggests a fifth shot will stop a cold in the majority of recipients but the efficacy of which will no doubt fade like all of its precursors is a good use of money? And your best argument at that point is that, well, it's still useful for high risk groups when nobody is arguing otherwise.
Your critical thinking still has provided zero evidence that Novax is suffering because he's unvaccinated, lol. Clowns.
Don't worry Harambitch, you can't win a debate, so like all good libs, you censor and cancel. Go f yourself. You lost. Djokovic owns you and we can all see it.
Yes... this guy is very reasonable, smart, and "not mad"
Canceling and censoring is the domain of a liberal who can't handle the debate. Who cares whose vaccine it was?
I haven't cancelled or censored anyone. I'm not a lib. I love Trump's vaccine. This is not a political debate along standard left/right lines – let's agree to that!
If they can't fit everything in clean partisan lines they just freak out... "Harambitch" 😂🤣
I will fight the Chokervic glazers until they've glazed their last.
Says the guy who, with his partner in crime and super-ego, goes and registers people's handles because he can no longer stand the debate. Can't make this stuff up.
But, I see who I'm arguing against and why it's ultimately not worthwhile.
Remember you said this study is a "waste of money"
Read: "My dogma is solidified and anything that attempts show evidence against it is useless!"
I wouldn't be so openly bragging that I have zero desire for critical thinking. But.... we have different standards we hold ourselves too.
A study, with all kinds of confounders, that suggests a fifth shot will stop a cold in the majority of recipients but the efficacy of which will no doubt fade like all of its precursors is a good use of money? And your best argument at that point is that, well, it's still useful for high risk groups when nobody is arguing otherwise.
Your critical thinking still has provided zero evidence that Novax is suffering because he's unvaccinated, lol. Clowns.
"wAHHHHH confounders(where?) and waning efficacy....TENNIS..... RRAHHAHHGHGHGG"
Bro... things that make people sick less often with minimal side effects are good.
I will fight the Chokervic glazers until they've glazed their last.
Says the guy who, with his partner in crime and super-ego, goes and registers people's handles because he can no longer stand the debate. Can't make this stuff up.
But, I see who I'm arguing against and why it's ultimately not worthwhile.
I haven't cancelled or censored anyone. I'm not a lib. I love Trump's vaccine. This is not a political debate along standard left/right lines – let's agree to that!
If they can't fit everything in clean partisan lines they just freak out... "Harambitch" 😂🤣
Hey 2600bro, you asked for us to put it in tennis terms, even though this isn't a tennis thread, so I did? What are you going to do now that you can no longer steal someone's handle? You sure have been quiet on the tennis front after you got owned by multiple posters.
If they can't fit everything in clean partisan lines they just freak out... "Harambitch" 😂🤣
Hey 2600bro, you asked for us to put it in tennis terms, even though this isn't a tennis thread, so I did? What are you going to do now that you can no longer steal someone's handle? You sure have been quiet on the tennis front after you got owned by multiple posters.
What else is there to discuss. Choker is a worse player and a whiner because of his vaccine decision? You disagree and have made 250 posts yelling to convince me. Good luck :)
Now you are attempting to wade into vaccine efficacy discourse and getting pushed around like a 2nd grader (even very high IQ one have low body mass)
Remember you said this study is a "waste of money"
Read: "My dogma is solidified and anything that attempts show evidence against it is useless!"
I wouldn't be so openly bragging that I have zero desire for critical thinking. But.... we have different standards we hold ourselves too.
A study, with all kinds of confounders, that suggests a fifth shot will stop a cold in the majority of recipients but the efficacy of which will no doubt fade like all of its precursors is a good use of money? And your best argument at that point is that, well, it's still useful for high risk groups when nobody is arguing otherwise.
Your critical thinking still has provided zero evidence that Novax is suffering because he's unvaccinated, lol. Clowns.
It's not a waste of money. It was a monovalent vaccine designed to 'predict' this seasons primary strain and they chose not to make it bivalent to avoid imprinting/etc. It seems to have worked!
If we don't run these studies, people scream that boosters don't do anything. When we show it keeps people healthy and saves lives (see the Netherlands hospitalization study) it's a waste of time. What gives?
A study, with all kinds of confounders, that suggests a fifth shot will stop a cold in the majority of recipients but the efficacy of which will no doubt fade like all of its precursors is a good use of money? And your best argument at that point is that, well, it's still useful for high risk groups when nobody is arguing otherwise.
Your critical thinking still has provided zero evidence that Novax is suffering because he's unvaccinated, lol. Clowns.
"wAHHHHH confounders(where?) and waning efficacy....TENNIS..... RRAHHAHHGHGHGG"
Bro... things that make people sick less often with minimal side effects are good.
You quite literally asked me to explain the riveting, compelling "stop a cold" paper in tennis terms. So I did. Now you realize that you walked yourself into the trap of continuing to talk about tennis.
Intellectual giant right here. Again, if you weren't so disingenuous, people would engage. But, because you're not and can't display even a modicum of humility, well, we're just going to continue sabotaging your thread and talking about the greatest, #1 ranked, long Covid suffering tennis player of all time.
A study, with all kinds of confounders, that suggests a fifth shot will stop a cold in the majority of recipients but the efficacy of which will no doubt fade like all of its precursors is a good use of money? And your best argument at that point is that, well, it's still useful for high risk groups when nobody is arguing otherwise.
Your critical thinking still has provided zero evidence that Novax is suffering because he's unvaccinated, lol. Clowns.
It's not a waste of money. It was a monovalent vaccine designed to 'predict' this seasons primary strain and they chose not to make it bivalent to avoid imprinting/etc. It seems to have worked!
If we don't run these studies, people scream that boosters don't do anything. When we show it keeps people healthy and saves lives (see the Netherlands hospitalization study) it's a waste of time. What gives?
What gives?
Dogma, and low effort/IQ. Everything is partisan, classifiable for simple minds. In this case: "vaccine bad"
"wAHHHHH confounders(where?) and waning efficacy....TENNIS..... RRAHHAHHGHGHGG"
Bro... things that make people sick less often with minimal side effects are good.
You quite literally asked me to explain the riveting, compelling "stop a cold" paper in tennis terms. So I did. Now you realize that you walked yourself into the trap of continuing to talk about tennis.
Intellectual giant right here. Again, if you weren't so disingenuous, people would engage. But, because you're not and can't display even a modicum of humility, well, we're just going to continue sabotaging your thread and talking about the greatest, #1 ranked, long Covid suffering tennis player of all time.
You said this:
"You think, you think. That's the problem. Are we going to tout and promote vaccines against the common cold because they help to prevent or mitigate cold symptoms? That's what this new 54% number is tantamount to."
And yes if we had a pan-rhinovirus vaccine we would "tout and promote"
It's not a waste of money. It was a monovalent vaccine designed to 'predict' this seasons primary strain and they chose not to make it bivalent to avoid imprinting/etc. It seems to have worked!
If we don't run these studies, people scream that boosters don't do anything. When we show it keeps people healthy and saves lives (see the Netherlands hospitalization study) it's a waste of time. What gives?
What gives?
Dogma, and low effort/IQ. Everything is partisan, classifiable for simple minds. In this case: "vaccine bad"
Says the guy who asks to talk about tennis but then cries this thread isn't about tennis and, wrong with his bro, literally cheats and steals people's handles. You literally did that. Are people supposed to be proud of you?