pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
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Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.
Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.
If its that simple then why don't Democrats treat him like an emperor and get everything they want? I guess they don't understand how politics works.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Rigged for Trump wrote:
They don't care that the President of the United States might be being blackmailed.
Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.
Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.
Ok, how about this? If the dems agree to a deal on DACA, they legitimize Trump and alienate their base (which is bad for 2018).
If they don't deal, Trump gets credit for trying to save DACA and the dems get the blame (also bad for them in 2018)
Either way, dems LOSE. The Art of the Deal, baby. Trump wins, Trump wins again.
M.A.G.A!!!
DiscoGary wrote:
Rigged for Trump wrote:
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blah blah blah
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All of you Trumptards are shytstains on the United States of America.
This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.
Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.
Dude, it is abundantly clear why and how Trump fooled people into voting for him. Yes, the Democrats let many of those people down. This is no secret, and the Democrats have been talking about it. They are aware. I DO agree with you that so far there aren't many corrections on the side of Democrats, but that is mainly due to near constant reacting to the crazy in the White House.
So, what will Democrats run on in 2018?:
1) We cleaned house of our sexual abusers.
2) We didn't allow Obamacare to go down.
3) We voted against this very unpopular tax bill that greatly helps the wealthy and only does so for a short amount of time for everyone else, and it threatens Social Security and Medicare.
4) We are the party who did NOT support Roy Moore.
Now, they NEED to do more than that for integrity's sake. The above might be enough to win a lot in a midterm election, but it won't be enough moving past that.
Now, SINCE the election, we have seen a President do the following:
1) Pardon Arpaio. Dude went against the order of a judge. Just can't do that. We live in a nation of laws, and Trump said he would be the Law and Order President...yeah right.
2) Said people on the side of White Supremacists were "good people" and made them equal to the protesters of that rally.
3) Lie and lie and lie. It is indisputable that he is without question and by far the biggest liar ever to be in the White House. It is not even close.
4) Obstruct justice. He has clearly done that, and that will be one of the charges against him. The funny thing is that he could eventually be proven innocent of the conspiracy but yet this could stick. You don't actually have to be found guilty of a crime to be charged with obstructing justice in the investigation of that crime or potential crime. You don't even have to be successful in obstructing justice either...just attempt to do it.
5) Retweetracist tweets.
6) Go golfing at a record pace at an alarming cost to the American taxpayers.
7) Not release his tax returns as he said he would.
8) Not sue the women who accused him of assault.
9) Not continue to insist that Mexico would pay for the border wall.
10) Allow his AG to say that states aren't protected with their marijuana laws after Trump himself said on the campaign trail that he would leave this up to the states.
11) Supported Roy Moore, a known racist and misogynist and accused child molester.
12) Tweet relentlessly unhinged things including a provocative tweet about nuclear weapons in response to North Korea.
13) And we have seen his cohorts indicted or admitting to criminal behavior.
I could go on and on. He has shown he doesn't understand that the national debt and stock market gains are disconnected. He has shown he doesn't realize Israel is in the Middle East and a whole host of other idiotic things. He has shown he doesn't understand the role he has and the role others in the government have...it is not to serve him. He is to serve the people, and all government officials are to serve the people. The AG is not there to protect him, and there can be no comparison to other recent presidents' AGs, because Trump is under a criminal investigation and they were not.
So, did all those Trump voters in 2016 suck? No. Does anyone who continues to support him now suck? Absolutely. He is a serial liar. He is a sexual predator. He is a creep (going backstage at his pageants to see naked women who don't want him there is evidence that he is a creep). He is a bad business man...to the point that he has 6 bankruptcies on his books and has bilked US banks out of so much that they will no longer loan him money. So, I could go get a multi-million dollar loan from Bank of America if I wanted to, and he can't and yet he's the financial genius? No...he's a criminal. Money laundering is going to stick hard on him.
This is not about the election and hasn't been for a long time now. What has happened is that in the last year we have increasingly been made aware how horrible of a man Donald Trump is and how crooked and underhanded he is, and that is why despite a soaring stock market and great economy, that his approval numbers are in the 30s.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
DiscoGary wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
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Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.
Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.
If its that simple then why don't Democrats treat him like an emperor and get everything they want? I guess they don't understand how politics works.
Gotta have the money. Trump is into it big to Russia and Putin. He must support them, make them look great or at least reasonable. Russia has Trump by the balls. Deutsche Bank is the only bank that will loan him money? Really? That should be a HUGE red flag.
Can you say 'Money Laundering'?
Also, Democrats don't want any of the hate he spews. All of his mouthpieces are idiots too...Stephen Miller? Raving lunatic. Jason Miller? Dumb as a stump. Kellyanne Conway? Liar and horrible representative...and also stupid.
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.
Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.
Dude, it is abundantly clear why and how Trump fooled people into voting for him. Yes, the Democrats let many of those people down. This is no secret, and the Democrats have been talking about it. They are aware. I DO agree with you that so far there aren't many corrections on the side of Democrats, but that is mainly due to near constant reacting to the crazy in the White House.
So, what will Democrats run on in 2018?:
1) We cleaned house of our sexual abusers.
2) We didn't allow Obamacare to go down.
3) We voted against this very unpopular tax bill that greatly helps the wealthy and only does so for a short amount of time for everyone else, and it threatens Social Security and Medicare.
4) We are the party who did NOT support Roy Moore.
Now, they NEED to do more than that for integrity's sake. The above might be enough to win a lot in a midterm election, but it won't be enough moving past that.
Now, SINCE the election, we have seen a President do the following:
1) Pardon Arpaio. Dude went against the order of a judge. Just can't do that. We live in a nation of laws, and Trump said he would be the Law and Order President...yeah right.
2) Said people on the side of White Supremacists were "good people" and made them equal to the protesters of that rally.
3) Lie and lie and lie. It is indisputable that he is without question and by far the biggest liar ever to be in the White House. It is not even close.
4) Obstruct justice. He has clearly done that, and that will be one of the charges against him. The funny thing is that he could eventually be proven innocent of the conspiracy but yet this could stick. You don't actually have to be found guilty of a crime to be charged with obstructing justice in the investigation of that crime or potential crime. You don't even have to be successful in obstructing justice either...just attempt to do it.
5) Retweetracist tweets.
6) Go golfing at a record pace at an alarming cost to the American taxpayers.
7) Not release his tax returns as he said he would.
8) Not sue the women who accused him of assault.
9) Not continue to insist that Mexico would pay for the border wall.
10) Allow his AG to say that states aren't protected with their marijuana laws after Trump himself said on the campaign trail that he would leave this up to the states.
11) Supported Roy Moore, a known racist and misogynist and accused child molester.
12) Tweet relentlessly unhinged things including a provocative tweet about nuclear weapons in response to North Korea.
13) And we have seen his cohorts indicted or admitting to criminal behavior.
I could go on and on. He has shown he doesn't understand that the national debt and stock market gains are disconnected. He has shown he doesn't realize Israel is in the Middle East and a whole host of other idiotic things. He has shown he doesn't understand the role he has and the role others in the government have...it is not to serve him. He is to serve the people, and all government officials are to serve the people. The AG is not there to protect him, and there can be no comparison to other recent presidents' AGs, because Trump is under a criminal investigation and they were not.
So, did all those Trump voters in 2016 suck? No. Does anyone who continues to support him now suck? Absolutely. He is a serial liar. He is a sexual predator. He is a creep (going backstage at his pageants to see naked women who don't want him there is evidence that he is a creep). He is a bad business man...to the point that he has 6 bankruptcies on his books and has bilked US banks out of so much that they will no longer loan him money. So, I could go get a multi-million dollar loan from Bank of America if I wanted to, and he can't and yet he's the financial genius? No...he's a criminal. Money laundering is going to stick hard on him.
This is not about the election and hasn't been for a long time now. What has happened is that in the last year we have increasingly been made aware how horrible of a man Donald Trump is and how crooked and underhanded he is, and that is why despite a soaring stock market and great economy, that his approval numbers are in the 30s.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
I think you should develop a hobby..............running perhaps, solitaire, coin collecting or maybe seek gainful employment, since it appears you do this 24/7. Its not healthy.
You post here almost as much as he does and provide almost nothing of relevance. Flagpole is pitching another shutout.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
I think you should develop a hobby..............running perhaps, solitaire, coin collecting or maybe seek gainful employment, since it appears you do this 24/7. Its not healthy.
Noticer of dominance wrote:
You post here almost as much as he does and provide almost nothing of relevance. Flagpole is pitching another shutout.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
I think you should develop a hobby..............running perhaps, solitaire, coin collecting or maybe seek gainful employment, since it appears you do this 24/7. Its not healthy.
Flagpole is our hero.
Not only does he shut down all Trumptardian rhetoric, but he is also from the great state of Ohio. It just doesn't get much better than that.
Trump told a gathering of Democrats and Establishment Republicans that he would sign any immigration bill that they put on his desk. He said he trusted them.
I can only hope that he was lying. I don't know what he was trying to accomplish.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trump told a gathering of Democrats and Establishment Republicans that he would sign any immigration bill that they put on his desk. He said he trusted them.
I can only hope that he was lying. I don't know what he was trying to accomplish.
He meant it when he said it. 5 minutes later he could say something the opposite and at that moment in time mean that too.
That's why it you didn't know the truth he could lie so well.
Wait.....did Gary just accuse Oprah of overplaying the victim card? The humor of the hypocrisy may give me a stroke!
kettlepot wrote:
Wait.....did Gary just accuse Oprah of overplaying the victim card? The humor of the hypocrisy may give me a stroke!
Lol...
Republicans on the House Rules Committee plan to revive a debate over earmarks in hearings launching next week, even as members of their own party blast the banned practice as a symbol of the Washington swamp.
Yes Republicans, lets bring back earmarks for pet projects. It worked so well in the past, lets return to it.
Draining the swamp, right?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.
Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.
Ok, how about this? If the dems agree to a deal on DACA, they legitimize Trump and alienate their base (which is bad for 2018).
If they don't deal, Trump gets credit for trying to save DACA and the dems get the blame (also bad for them in 2018)
Either way, dems LOSE. The Art of the Deal, baby. Trump wins, Trump wins again.
M.A.G.A!!!
If DACA doesn't become law there is no way that Trump gets credit for "trying" to save it.
DACA was already in effect before Trump reminded it.
He would be fully blamed for it going away.
That would be like kid napping a baby, demanding a ransom and then letting it die when you don't get the ransom.
You don't get credit for trying to save it. You killed it.
This is an extortion policy.
You are right that if the Dems strike a deal for DACA in exchange for the wall they would be betraying their base.
So their best move is to let Trump sign a clean DACA deal or be blamed for it ending.
Republicans want DACA gone and real don't care much about the wall, so they would be fine with that.
It's all about the optics of them being heartless, though.
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Oprah has a lot of positives that other Dem candidates don't have, but she has one yuge negative... she plays the race card, the woman card, and the victim card all the time, and she played the whole deck in her recent speech. People don't want to be thrown in the Basket of Irredeemable Deplorables, and that is exactly what Oprah will be doing. People thought electing Obama would cleanse our collective guilt for past sins, but it only brought more accusations. One of the main reasons Trump won is that many Americans are sick of being blamed for things they haven't done, for being called a racist, for being told they're morally inferior to people from other countries, for being called sexists, homophobic, trans-phobic, blah, blah, blah. Everyone knows that electing Oprah won't fix a thing and probably make things worse. An Oprah candidacy will send the Dems in the wrong direction. She would have a very hard time winning.
1) Anyone who doesn't want to be called a racist ought not be a racist.
2) Not everyone knows that electing Oprah won't fix things. Unfortunately since we don't have royalty in this country, people worship famous people here...Beyonce, Oprah, Flagpole. It really should stop.
3) It is too early to know if she would win or not. Campaigning is tough and a skill of its own. She would be outrageously popular with women, especially in the post 2016 election world. Minorities would love her too, and then anti-Trump people (like me) would vote for her over Trump if he's still the candidate then. Riding a populist wave is tough to maintain for long, and Trump is doing everything he can to NOT continue that wave.
Like Hillary the Racist? Such a little whining hypocrite you are. You lie so much it's actually getting funny.
LL, thanks for the honesty, sorry Ohio Boy is on your team.
Knoist and His Three Sons Germany Between Werl and Soest there lived a man whose name was Knoist, and he had three sons. One was blind, the other lame, and the third stark naked. Once they were walking across a field, where they saw a hare. The blind one shot it, the lame one caught it, and the naked one put it in his pocket. Then they came to a tremendously large body of water, on which there were three ships. One leaked, one sank, the third had no bottom in it. All three got into the one with no bottom. Then they came to a tremendously large forest in which there was a tremendously large tree. In the tree was a tremendously large chapel. In the chapel was a sexton of hornbeam wood and a parson of boxwood, who were passing out holy water with cudgels. Blessed is he Who from this holy water can flee.
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.
Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.
Dude, it is abundantly clear why and how Trump fooled people into voting for him. Yes, the Democrats let many of those people down. This is no secret, and the Democrats have been talking about it. They are aware. I DO agree with you that so far there aren't many corrections on the side of Democrats, but that is mainly due to near constant reacting to the crazy in the White House.
So, what will Democrats run on in 2018?:
1) We cleaned house of our sexual abusers.
2) We didn't allow Obamacare to go down.
3) We voted against this very unpopular tax bill that greatly helps the wealthy and only does so for a short amount of time for everyone else, and it threatens Social Security and Medicare.
4) We are the party who did NOT support Roy Moore.
Now, they NEED to do more than that for integrity's sake. The above might be enough to win a lot in a midterm election, but it won't be enough moving past that.
Now, SINCE the election, we have seen a President do the following:
1) Pardon Arpaio. Dude went against the order of a judge. Just can't do that. We live in a nation of laws, and Trump said he would be the Law and Order President...yeah right.
2) Said people on the side of White Supremacists were "good people" and made them equal to the protesters of that rally.
3) Lie and lie and lie. It is indisputable that he is without question and by far the biggest liar ever to be in the White House. It is not even close.
4) Obstruct justice. He has clearly done that, and that will be one of the charges against him. The funny thing is that he could eventually be proven innocent of the conspiracy but yet this could stick. You don't actually have to be found guilty of a crime to be charged with obstructing justice in the investigation of that crime or potential crime. You don't even have to be successful in obstructing justice either...just attempt to do it.
5) Retweetracist tweets.
6) Go golfing at a record pace at an alarming cost to the American taxpayers.
7) Not release his tax returns as he said he would.
8) Not sue the women who accused him of assault.
9) Not continue to insist that Mexico would pay for the border wall.
10) Allow his AG to say that states aren't protected with their marijuana laws after Trump himself said on the campaign trail that he would leave this up to the states.
11) Supported Roy Moore, a known racist and misogynist and accused child molester.
12) Tweet relentlessly unhinged things including a provocative tweet about nuclear weapons in response to North Korea.
13) And we have seen his cohorts indicted or admitting to criminal behavior.
I could go on and on. He has shown he doesn't understand that the national debt and stock market gains are disconnected. He has shown he doesn't realize Israel is in the Middle East and a whole host of other idiotic things. He has shown he doesn't understand the role he has and the role others in the government have...it is not to serve him. He is to serve the people, and all government officials are to serve the people. The AG is not there to protect him, and there can be no comparison to other recent presidents' AGs, because Trump is under a criminal investigation and they were not.
So, did all those Trump voters in 2016 suck? No. Does anyone who continues to support him now suck? Absolutely. He is a serial liar. He is a sexual predator. He is a creep (going backstage at his pageants to see naked women who don't want him there is evidence that he is a creep). He is a bad business man...to the point that he has 6 bankruptcies on his books and has bilked US banks out of so much that they will no longer loan him money. So, I could go get a multi-million dollar loan from Bank of America if I wanted to, and he can't and yet he's the financial genius? No...he's a criminal. Money laundering is going to stick hard on him.
This is not about the election and hasn't been for a long time now. What has happened is that in the last year we have increasingly been made aware how horrible of a man Donald Trump is and how crooked and underhanded he is, and that is why despite a soaring stock market and great economy, that his approval numbers are in the 30s.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Why do kids [metaphor for libs] lie? What to do.
Parents often ask why do kids lie? They will be caught off guard when their sweet child lies to them. Children lie for the same reasons adults do: to be accepted socially, to get attention or status, to hurt someone else, or because they fear the consequences of the truth. But younger children do not understand the concept of truth the way adults do. Let’s get into the world of the child to understand why do kids lie?
1. It’s not a Lie; It’s Fantasy
One type of childish fantasy is wishful thinking. Witness the five-year-old telling his friend about a trip to Disneyland — where he’s never been. “Why, he’s lying through his teeth,” you think. “What’s wrong with him?” He’s not lying (at least by childhood standards), he’s thinking wishfully — imagining what he wishes had happened. Not only does wishful thinking allow the child the luxury of living in a dream, it impresses his friends and raises his social status. “You really played with Mickey Mouse?” the admiring friends inquire. Children fabricate tall tales for other children, knowing they always have an audience of believers.
If you hear two children spinning yarns, that’s innocent storytelling — not lying. This stage will pass around seven to nine years as imaginative thinking wanes and peers become less gullible. (If it continues past nine, this character trait will not win friends and is probably a sign that there is an underlying problem needing attention.) You can use storytelling as a teachable moment. You overhear the child’s presentation of his make-believe trip to Disneyland, “We went to Disneyland for my birthday…” Don’t label your child a liar. That’s a putdown. Instead, respect his wishful thinking. “You wish you went to Disneyland. That would be fun. Now, tell us what you really did for your birthday.” The child knows you understand and sees you are not angry. He also subtly learns there’s no need to lie. Also, wishful thinking often reveals the wish. “You wish you could go to Disneyland. Maybe I can help that wish come true. Let’s plan a trip…” It’s comforting for a child to know that some dreams do come true.
https://www.askdrsears.com/topics/parenting/discipline-behavior/morals-manners/why-do-kids-lie
DiscoGary wrote:
Rigged for Trump wrote:
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blah blah blah
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All of you Trumptards are shytstains on the United States of America.
This is why you lost. I have seen no evidence that liberals understand why they lost. I see no course corrections happening on their side.
Just keep telling your fellow Americans that they suck and see what that gets you.
Ummm . . . you DO suck. You have demonstrated repeatedly that you have no regard for the truth.
Hence, you suck.
Glad I could help clear that up for you.
DiscoGary wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
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Trump is an easily influenced simpleton. Treat the guy like an emperor and he's putty.
Other than that, you don't seem to understand how politics works.
If its that simple then why don't Democrats treat him like an emperor and get everything they want? I guess they don't understand how politics works.
Ummm . . . some people are not that into kissing the ass of POTUS.
Noticer of dominance wrote:
You post here almost as much as he does and provide almost nothing of relevance. Flagpole is pitching another shutout.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
I think you should develop a hobby..............running perhaps, solitaire, coin collecting or maybe seek gainful employment, since it appears you do this 24/7. Its not healthy.
Flagpole: 243
OLD SMTC SOB & Associates: 0
Noticer of dominance wrote:
You post here almost as much as he does and provide almost nothing of relevance. Flagpole is pitching another shutout.
CORRECT!