This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Are you suddenly backpedaling on Novak greatness? Thats a sharp turn from every word you’ve spoken about him thus far.
Many quotes of me saying he's still a good player – just much worse than he was. You seem pretty unable to grasp the ideas of 'relative' and 'absolute'
Anti-vaxxers simply lie - they need to lie to make money:
First, let's consider the anaphylaxis data. Here is the part of Table 3 containing the number of cases and person-years of follow up for two vaccines for the different age groups.
Privacy rules forbid them from publishing any raw counts <11 in the table, so "<11" means some… pic.twitter.com/mOXxgo8llM
In other words, yep, you concur. You despise Djokovic and you are rooting for his downfall. But we already know this. You and 2600bot both, but you want to change the subject because you got exposed and got your azz handed to you. And neither one of you can admit you are wrong and being disingenuous. 2600bot never should've weighed in, and he knows that now.
As far was the rest, I'm not going to argue with you, but NoVax and myself were definitely not part of the propaganda you are trying so desperately to ascribe to us. We just simply wanted the ability and the respect to handle things our own way. It's not up to us to tell other people how to go about their business, and it's not up to them to condemn us either for actually following the rules that have since changed but still acquire immunity along the way without harming anybody. That's not your call, even as you prove time and time again that you are a narcissist.
I don’t care much about Choker. He’s a dumb anti vaxxer, fun to mock, suffering from long COVID.
A fun way to mirror the arguments used by anti vaxxers.
And wow did it work.
Actually you do care or you wouldn't respond anymore and you never would've interjected in the first place about things you clearly know nothing about. You do care about NoVax, and it irritates the living heck out of you that he just won the US Open and is still the world #1 (while suffering from long Covid). Hilarious.
You made it into a tennis thread. And you can't admit you're wrong, about anything. Bet you're a blast at parties and at Thanksgiving dinners. Damn you NoVax!!!!!
Are you suddenly backpedaling on Novak greatness? Thats a sharp turn from every word you’ve spoken about him thus far.
Many quotes of me saying he's still a good player – just much worse than he was. You seem pretty unable to grasp the ideas of 'relative' and 'absolute'
No anti-vaxxer has been able to do simple arithmetic comparisons... what do you expect?
In other words, yep, you concur. You despise Djokovic and you are rooting for his downfall. But we already know this. You and 2600bot both, but you want to change the subject because you got exposed and got your azz handed to you. And neither one of you can admit you are wrong and being disingenuous. 2600bot never should've weighed in, and he knows that now.
As far was the rest, I'm not going to argue with you, but NoVax and myself were definitely not part of the propaganda you are trying so desperately to ascribe to us. We just simply wanted the ability and the respect to handle things our own way. It's not up to us to tell other people how to go about their business, and it's not up to them to condemn us either for actually following the rules that have since changed but still acquire immunity along the way without harming anybody. That's not your call, even as you prove time and time again that you are a narcissist.
Chokervic the murderer. And you will write novels to defend him. And yourself.
Feeling warm? I got a pitchfork for ya. Half off
I'm defending his right to choose for himself, which would be an absolute right if he were American, but he's not. Thank God somebody understands what our founding fathers understood for our country, because you clearly don't.
The dude is world #1, and has finished 2nd, 1st, and 3rd (lol) in his last three slams, but, being the tennis aficionados you guys are, you have absolute evidence that he's suffering from long Covid and has fallen markedly. I think you are full of sh*t.
Many quotes of me saying he's still a good player – just much worse than he was. You seem pretty unable to grasp the ideas of 'relative' and 'absolute'
No anti-vaxxer has been able to do simple arithmetic comparisons... what do you expect?
Remember they got their IQ checked in 1st grade!
Long Covid must not be any big deal for NoVax to still be ranked world #1, and finish 2nd, 1st, and 3rd (lol) in his last three slams eh? Weren't you saying how awful long Covid is? So, you would mock people that actually suffer from long Covid. Swell guy you are, in addition to being a complete dolt know-it-all.
I have seen no such comments speaking positively about his abilities in our interactions at all. I’ve also seen no demonstrative evidence provided in your comments toward your perceived decline in his ability as of recent. I also have seen nothing in regards to your diagnosis with your belief he is suffering from, in your words, of long covid. Maybe you can clear those three points up in a pointed way. You also slipped out of the way of asserting that you were the only human being on planet earth to be completely infallible in regards to Covid and have gotten literally everything right, literally 100% of the time. You are a failure my friend.
I have seen no such comments speaking positively about his abilities in our interactions at all. I’ve also seen no demonstrative evidence provided in your comments toward your perceived decline in his ability as of recent. I also have seen nothing in regards to your diagnosis with your belief he is suffering from, in your words, of long covid. Maybe you can clear those three points up in a pointed way. You also slipped out of the way of asserting that you were the only human being on planet earth to be completely infallible in regards to Covid and have gotten literally everything right, literally 100% of the time. You are a failure my friend.
You never provided your stance on claims about vaccine safety and efficacy / COVID deaths / excess deaths.
To participate in this thread I need you to go on record. If you are too ignorant / scared to then accept the fact you will be mocked and ignored.
You need to have intellectual skin the game - its the vaccine thread after all.
No anti-vaxxer has been able to do simple arithmetic comparisons... what do you expect?
Remember they got their IQ checked in 1st grade!
Long Covid must not be any big deal for NoVax to still be ranked world #1, and finish 2nd, 1st, and 3rd (lol) in his last three slams eh? Weren't you saying how awful long Covid is? So, you would mock people that actually suffer from long Covid. Swell guy you are, in addition to being a complete dolt know-it-all.
He has failed to win since long-COVID caused his soft-tissue injury.
We will see how he deals with it. Can he ever regain his past form? Time will tell.
It's easy to be a know-it-all when I know a couple orders of magnitude more about these topics than you and other antivaxxers.
If you wish to challenge my status I suggest you take the time to learn - no shortcuts... sorry.
I’ve made my stance on this clear. If you two are going to be ignorant, obtuse, and downright dishonest to the most basic points, like Novak being the best player in the world, why on earth would I take a step further. Now if you want to to be humble, introspective, and honest, then maybe we can go further. I’m not going to argue with someone who says grass isn’t green. It’s a waste of time. As for your diagnosis of Novaks medical situation please illuminate us on what led to it. As an expert that should be very easy to pinpoint his ailments.
I’ve made my stance on this clear. If you two are going to be ignorant, obtuse, and downright dishonest to the most basic points, like Novak being the best player in the world, why on earth would I take a step further. Now if you want to to be humble, introspective, and honest, then maybe we can go further. I’m not going to argue with someone who says grass isn’t green. It’s a waste of time. As for your diagnosis of Novaks medical situation please illuminate us on what led to it. As an expert that should be very easy to pinpoint his ailments.
"I am willingly committing to only providing intellectually empty nonsense"
I don’t care much about Choker. He’s a dumb anti vaxxer, fun to mock, suffering from long COVID.
A fun way to mirror the arguments used by anti vaxxers.
And wow did it work.
Actually you do care or you wouldn't respond anymore and you never would've interjected in the first place about things you clearly know nothing about. You do care about NoVax, and it irritates the living heck out of you that he just won the US Open and is still the world #1 (while suffering from long Covid). Hilarious.
You made it into a tennis thread. And you can't admit you're wrong, about anything. Bet you're a blast at parties and at Thanksgiving dinners. Damn you NoVax!!!!!
I realize you are. That’s why I’m asking you two to level the playing field and make one honest comment. Again if we can’t say grass is green then what is the point. You’re intentionally deflecting that both you and harambe are happily being disingenuous just for the sake of it. You are trapped in a corner of stupidity and won’t open the door and let yourself out. Harambe is obviously far more egotistical, that’s clear. I’m here to tell you it’s ok to say I’m wrong. It’s ok to say I went too far. It’s ok to say I was just trying to prove a point. Unfortunately you’re too immature for that. I wish you well bud.
Gotta hand it to you vaxxers. You made enormous sums in ill gotten gain by terrifying the majority of humanity for 3 years.
"The largest burden of COVID-19 is carried by the elderly, and persons living in nursing homes are particularly vulnerable. However, 94% of the global population is younger than 70 years and 86% is younger than 60 years. The objective of this study was to accurately estimate the infection fatality rate (IFR) of COVID-19 among non-elderly people in the absence of vaccination or prior infection. In systematic searches in SeroTracker and PubMed (protocol: ), we identified 40 eligible national seroprevalence studies covering 38 countries with pre-vaccination seroprevalence data. For 29 countries (24 high-income, 5 others), publicly available age-stratified COVID-19 death data and age-stratified seroprevalence information were available and were included in the primary analysis. The IFRs had a median of 0.034% (interquartile range (IQR) 0.013–0.056%) for the 0–59 years old population, and 0.095% (IQR 0.036–0.119%) for the 0–69 years old. The median IFR was 0.0003% at 0–19 years, 0.002% at 20–29 years, 0.011% at 30–39 years, 0.035% at 40–49 years, 0.123% at 50–59 years, and 0.506% at 60–69 years. IFR increases approximately 4 times every 10 years. Including data from another 9 countries with imputed age distribution of COVID-19 deaths yielded median IFR of 0.025–0.032% for 0–59 years and 0.063–0.082% for 0–69 years. Meta-regression analyses also suggested global IFR of 0.03% and 0.07%, respectively in these age groups. The current analysis suggests a much lower pre-vaccination IFR in non-elderly populations than previously suggested. Large differences did exist between countries and may reflect differences in comorbidities and other factors. These estimates provide a baseline from which to fathom further IFR declines with the widespread use of vaccination, prior infections, and evolution of new variants."
The largest burden of COVID-19 is carried by the elderly, and persons living in nursing homes are particularly vulnerable. However, 94% of the global population is younger than 70 years and 86% is younger than 60 years. The o...
You also failed to illuminate how you arrived at your precise medical diagnosis of Novak. Or one assertion to back up that claim. Maybe, just maybe, you’d be willing to say exactly when he was overwhelmed by long covid. That would represent the first time you’ve answered anything directly.
I'm defending his right to choose for himself, which would be an absolute right if he were American, but he's not. Thank God somebody understands what our founding fathers understood for our country, because you clearly don't.
The dude is world #1, and has finished 2nd, 1st, and 3rd (lol) in his last three slams, but, being the tennis aficionados you guys are, you have absolute evidence that he's suffering from long Covid and has fallen markedly. I think you are full of sh*t.
I realize you are. That’s why I’m asking you two to level the playing field and make one honest comment. Again if we can’t say grass is green then what is the point. You’re intentionally deflecting that both you and harambe are happily being disingenuous just for the sake of it. You are trapped in a corner of stupidity and won’t open the door and let yourself out. Harambe is obviously far more egotistical, that’s clear. I’m here to tell you it’s ok to say I’m wrong. It’s ok to say I went too far. It’s ok to say I was just trying to prove a point. Unfortunately you’re too immature for that. I wish you well bud.
You also failed to illuminate how you arrived at your precise medical diagnosis of Novak. Or one assertion to back up that claim. Maybe, just maybe, you’d be willing to say exactly when he was overwhelmed by long covid. That would represent the first time you’ve answered anything directly.
