........PSAC.......

When you get to his level both in running and as a coach others show respect for you. You really believe he ran that with out Donner knowing what was going on? Come on.

Go Spence!

If Spence asked the meet official if he could move down to the second heat, what's wrong with that? I'm sure the only reason he was running in that race was to help those three guys out.

can you tell me why you can not be a great athlete and great coach? Spence does not even train seriously, if he focused and stayed healthy he would put you young bucks to shame. How scary would it be to be on PR pace and having a 45 yr old man motoring past you?

That's such a random thing to make a complaint about. Seriously, how long did you sit there looking for something to whine about? He seeded all his guys and himself at the SAME time, the Bucknell coach took it upon HIMSELF to seed Coach Spence in the fast heat, because in his words "It's Spence". Coach asked why and they talked and the Bucknell coach moved him down no harm no foul. So let's not make nothing in anything. Get a life. Go for a run or something seriously.

-Josh Neyhart

Anyone else notice how the ship guys of today post stupid shit on here, and the guys of years past were just cool and never even had to defend themselves online?

no sorry I missed that somewhere.

just run neyhart. don't worry about what others are complaining about. show yourself on the track, don't get caught up in arguments online.

No ones arguing here, just sticking up for one bamf-steve spence...Oh and neyhart is showing up on the track, 4.22 debut mile...not too shabby

all you guys are shitting on shizzy, he just dropped a 417 mile in a workout the other day....Can you beat him?

Ship guys cool? Come on now. Don't know when you're talking about. Let's start back in the early 90's. Randy Lowe...great runner, but perhaps the epitome of anti-cool. His teammates -- Chris Monheim...nicest dude you'll ever meet, but King of Conservative. Other guys on those teams...Hegge, McDonald, etc. -- don't think so. Go a few years later and you've got guys like Jamie Dick (no nickname needed...there's only one Dick)...Josh D'Angelo...maybe slightly cool, but only lasted a year or two. Travis Anderson -- come on now...love the guy, but not cool. Rob Emerick -- cool in that he passed out drunk on the floor of the cross country house at IUP...but, not cool in any other regard. Go through the years -- guys like Gish and then Gindlesperger and Stehle. Not sure I'd say cool. More recently, folks like Somers and Hansloven. I'm not ripping on these guys...but like most runners, I wouldn't consider them cool. OK...they're cooler than the bums from IUP. But definitely not cooler than the guys from Haven and no where near as cool as the Boro guys (especially cocky tight pants group of recent years). Hoovis

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Anyone else notice how the ship guys of today post stupid shit on here, and the guys of years past were just cool and never even had to defend themselves online?

Ship guys cool? Come on now. Don't know when you're talking about. Let's start back in the early 90's. Randy Lowe...great runner, but perhaps the epitome of anti-cool. His teammates -- Chris Monheim...nicest dude you'll ever meet, but King of Conservative. Other guys on those teams...Hegge, McDonald, etc. -- don't think so. Go a few years later and you've got guys like Jamie Dick (no nickname needed...there's only one Dick)...Josh D'Angelo...maybe slightly cool, but only lasted a year or two. Travis Anderson -- come on now...love the guy, but not cool. Rob Emerick -- cool in that he passed out drunk on the floor of the cross country house at IUP...but, not cool in any other regard. Go through the years -- guys like Gish and then Gindlesperger and Stehle. Not sure I'd say cool. More recently, folks like Somers and Hansloven. I'm not ripping on these guys...but like most runners, I wouldn't consider them cool. OK...they're cooler than the bums from IUP. But definitely not cooler than the guys from Haven and no where near as cool as the Boro guys (especially cocky tight pants group of recent years). Hoovis

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Anyone else notice how the ship guys of today post stupid shit on here, and the guys of years past were just cool and never even had to defend themselves online?

What about Hansloven? He was the shit (plus he didn't look pennsyvania surfer wanna-be like that kid in the video).

what in gods name are you talking aboot?

yes, i said aboot. I am effing Canadian!

So fook yoo.

That is exactly right. Coach Spence seeded all his guys and himself at 15:45. Ironically that time was the natural break between the fast section and the slower section according to the seed times. Showing respect for Spence--we put him in the faster section. I was not sure if he wanted to pace his guys or possibly try to qualify individually for some other meets down the road. When he asked to run in the slower section with his guys--it was no problem at all with us. It was an open non scored meet. We usually accomodate anyone who would rather be in a different heat if the coach makes a recommendation.

i broke the world record in the mile in a workout. you don't hear my teammates bragging about my time. and yes i can beat shizzy.

Steve Owens (Boro) is a badass!

Only thing I've ever broken is wind...

"If I can't practice, I can't practice. It is as simple as that. It ain't about that at all. It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about practice. We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game last it's my last but we're talking about practice man. How silly is that?

Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about practice. We're talking about practice man. (laughter from the media crowd) We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you've seen me play right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about practice right now."

-AI

Well, that was lame.