Skuj wrote:
So, what is Trump up to? He would never say this unless there was some ulterior motive.
He's trying to weasel.
Nothing surprising or interesting about that, since it's Trump.
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hunter wheres the blow wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
As this thread shows with the extreme right posters here, Trump isn't the problem - he is a symptom bearer; the disease is America and more specifically the Right. Trump has no equivalent in a Western democracy; he would be invisible anywhere else; he is the voice of an increasingly dysfunctional American culture. His constituency used to be called the Confederacy but now it is a grab-bag for every prejudice, resentment and barking conspiracy theory in a predominantly white male club.
It is not only an America problem. Right wing demagogues have been popping up all over the world for the last 10-15 years. Lots of theories on why this is.
It's the '08 crash. Up to then, everybody assumed their lives would get better, they'd be wealthier than their parents, they could afford homes and to have children, and there wouldn't be any wars.
Men, in particular white men, dominate the internet and get an unleavened diet of right-wing politics. They're unwilling to consider the problems they face today meeting the demands of the economy, are the same problems women and minorities have been facing for decades. From their perspective, equality looks like a downgrade. Critiquing the financial system is like criticizing the construction of the house they designed and built. Even if men are also now living in its ruins, it still feels personal.
And then a guy comes along and tells them the reason they're unhappy and unfulfilled in life is because of blue-haired feminists who are criticizing THEIR house and want to tear it down and build a new one, and not the fact the original house was built badly.
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Skuj wrote:
So, what is Trump up to? He would never say this unless there was some ulterior motive.
He knows that DOJ has him dead to rights. So he's using whatever tactic might keep him out of prison, including this veiled threat that his prosecution would tear the country apart and lead to massive violence.
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This thread is Democratic, trump hating, la la land…
I’ll be sure to check back here with you all when absolutely NOTHING comes of this
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Fat hurts wrote:
Grumby wrote:
For those keeping track the liberals run high education, lower education, all media, big tech, entertainment, the DOJ, the FBI, the pharmaceutical industry, cultural institutions.. Am I missing anything? So what can a true patriot really trust these days?
And by patriot, you mean uneducated angry white men?
There's a reason they aren't allowed to run things. When we tried that it ended with the first president to lose re-election in the last 40 years, and the first violent transfer of power in our nation's history.
LOL, first violent transfer of power:):):) Hilarious. Talk about half-baked cherry picking load of bs?
The Left Wingers taking over cities and burning them down for months. You left that part out, the part that your side did for months and months, taking over police stations, etc...If Right Wingers did that, you'd be posting 24 hours a day. You don't see to mention that much Fatty. Hypocrite much? Biased much? Liar much?
Your side has major extremist, from Soros to Obama and the Clintons. Those people don't seem to bother you much, eh? Soros, the worst extreme left wing lunatic on the planet and friends with the Obamas and Clintons.
You're a lost cause dude. You and New Zealand guy are completely mental. When this country totally falls apart, people like you and your racist left wing friends will be the cause.
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Go Sweden1 wrote:
This thread is Democratic, trump hating, la la land…
I’ll be sure to check back here with you all when absolutely NOTHING comes of this
Yep, it is. A bunch of never happy Dumocrats who are completely ignorant on facts. Hillary will go to jail before Donald, guarnateed. But Hillary isn't going to jail for numerous counts of perjury and that should answer your question. I mean some of you libs on this thread aren't dumb, you are complete idiots. What sad pathetic lives you lead. This thread and Donald Trump own you. He's on your brain 24/7. You have my pity.
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Grumby wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
And by patriot, you mean uneducated angry white men?
There's a reason they aren't allowed to run things. When we tried that it ended with the first president to lose re-election in the last 40 years, and the first violent transfer of power in our nation's history.
I was asking ”hunter wheres the blow” that question bc I wanted to hear his answer. It wasn’t a rhetorical question. I am asking in good faith.
The question itself is kind of a false premise. There is both right wing and left wing media. Certainly big pharma has a hold on both parties. There are cultural institutions on both sides. That being said, I get that with how divided things are, there's lots of partisan agendas and it's hard to trust that anyone on the other side is acting or arguing in good faith.
If I were you (a conservative minded individual), I would trust Fox News. Of course everything will have a right wing spin, but at least they have been shown to be trustworthy and not outright lie in the facts they are reporting. I would avoid anything crazier than them like Q stuff. Actual journalists do have to work a bit harder with fact checking so if it's reported on Fox, you can at least be fairly certain it's factually true.
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OhPLEASEPLEASE!!! wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
As this thread shows with the extreme right posters here, Trump isn't the problem - he is a symptom bearer; the disease is America and more specifically the Right. Trump has no equivalent in a Western democracy; he would be invisible anywhere else; he is the voice of an increasingly dysfunctional American culture. His constituency used to be called the Confederacy but now it is a grab-bag for every prejudice, resentment and barking conspiracy theory in a predominantly white male club.
Orban, Salvini, LePen, Bolsanaro, Kaczynski, not to mention rising aggressive right wingers in Spain (mayor of Madrid, cannot remember her name). All seem to love their buddy, the human touch point for all major current authoritarians, War Criminal Prime and Thief of Thieves Vlad Putin.
Trump is just one of multiple similar threats facing the world's populace at this time. The thing that has shocked me is that SO MANY white Americans have proven so eager to follow his lead. The 2016 election shocked me and opened my eyes to the fact that the US is simply not what I thought it was. Just as in Germany in 1931/1932, there are MANY white Americans who would support some sort of nationalist authoritarian government here.
If you aren't afraid of the right wingers around the world, you are part of the problem. If you support any of them, you are little more than a brownshirt-in-training.
^^^^^
Flirting with Godwin's law. He was rising to it, but decided to hedge and qualify things for now. See, e.g., para. 2 ("Just as in Germany in 1931/1932 . . ."). I think one of us should engage and get him to go full blast Godwin.
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Tatar... wrote:
hunter wheres the blow wrote:
It is not only an America problem. Right wing demagogues have been popping up all over the world for the last 10-15 years. Lots of theories on why this is.
It's the '08 crash. Up to then, everybody assumed their lives would get better, they'd be wealthier than their parents, they could afford homes and to have children, and there wouldn't be any wars.
Men, in particular white men, dominate the internet and get an unleavened diet of right-wing politics. They're unwilling to consider the problems they face today meeting the demands of the economy, are the same problems women and minorities have been facing for decades. From their perspective, equality looks like a downgrade. Critiquing the financial system is like criticizing the construction of the house they designed and built. Even if men are also now living in its ruins, it still feels personal.
And then a guy comes along and tells them the reason they're unhappy and unfulfilled in life is because of blue-haired feminists who are criticizing THEIR house and want to tear it down and build a new one, and not the fact the original house was built badly.
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Spotted the 1619 Project worshipper. We may hear that math is racist soon.
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Tatar... wrote:
hunter wheres the blow wrote:
It is not only an America problem. Right wing demagogues have been popping up all over the world for the last 10-15 years. Lots of theories on why this is.
It's the '08 crash. Up to then, everybody assumed their lives would get better, they'd be wealthier than their parents, they could afford homes and to have children, and there wouldn't be any wars.
Men, in particular white men, dominate the internet and get an unleavened diet of right-wing politics. They're unwilling to consider the problems they face today meeting the demands of the economy, are the same problems women and minorities have been facing for decades. From their perspective, equality looks like a downgrade. Critiquing the financial system is like criticizing the construction of the house they designed and built. Even if men are also now living in its ruins, it still feels personal.
And then a guy comes along and tells them the reason they're unhappy and unfulfilled in life is because of blue-haired feminists who are criticizing THEIR house and want to tear it down and build a new one, and not the fact the original house was built badly.
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Commode flusher wrote:
OhPLEASEPLEASE!!! wrote:
Orban, Salvini, LePen, Bolsanaro, Kaczynski, not to mention rising aggressive right wingers in Spain (mayor of Madrid, cannot remember her name). All seem to love their buddy, the human touch point for all major current authoritarians, War Criminal Prime and Thief of Thieves Vlad Putin.
Trump is just one of multiple similar threats facing the world's populace at this time. The thing that has shocked me is that SO MANY white Americans have proven so eager to follow his lead. The 2016 election shocked me and opened my eyes to the fact that the US is simply not what I thought it was. Just as in Germany in 1931/1932, there are MANY white Americans who would support some sort of nationalist authoritarian government here.
If you aren't afraid of the right wingers around the world, you are part of the problem. If you support any of them, you are little more than a brownshirt-in-training.
^^^^^
Flirting with Godwin's law. He was rising to it, but decided to hedge and qualify things for now. See, e.g., para. 2 ("Just as in Germany in 1931/1932 . . ."). I think one of us should engage and get him to go full blast Godwin.
If the Brown Shirt fits, the right wingers should wear it no? There are posters in this thread who must have at least considered what the Trump/DeathSantis equivalent of the SS might be, wondering whether they should start working out to get ready for the tryouts.
Also, "Godwin's Law" is nothing more than a funny commentary on accelerating vitriol apparent in long political discussions and is a cute 'Internet-ism'. However, the rise of right wing wannabe fascists in Europe and the Americas, all tied to their most vile of pals, Vlad, is no laughing matter.
If you aren't afraid of the rise of authoritarianism on the right wing in 2022, you are a huge part of the problem.
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proof there are angry liberals, or perhaps just confused
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hunter wheres the blow wrote:
If I were you (a conservative minded individual), I would trust Fox News. Of course everything will have a right wing spin, but at least they have been shown to be trustworthy and not outright lie in the facts they are reporting.
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*inhale*
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Go Sweden1 wrote:
This thread is Democratic, trump hating, la la land…
I’ll be sure to check back here with you all when absolutely NOTHING comes of this
Nothing WILL come of it just as nothing came of the Mueller investigation, just as nothing came of the first impeachment, just as nothing came of the second impeachment, just as nothing came of the Jan. 6 committee hearings, just as nothing came of the SDNY investigation and just as nothing will come of this latest witch hunt.
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Fat hurts wrote:
He knows that DOJ has him dead to rights. So he's using whatever tactic might keep him out of prison, including this veiled threat that his prosecution would tear the country apart and lead to massive violence.
Manson warned of Helter Skelter. Truely a cult leader move. This guy has a lot more Squeakies though.
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Go Sweden1 wrote:
This thread is Democratic, trump hating, la la land…
I’ll be sure to check back here with you all when absolutely NOTHING comes of this
That same group of demented posters talking about angry white men. And they do it days on end, for hours. They’re such good people, protecting the weak and disenfranchised from angry white men, typing for days while they sit on the rear for days . Good thing they have one of the best second tier political hacks as their President. Joe’s at the beach in a wealthy donor’s house, while his sap wokesters are busy demonstrating their loyalty to the cause. 😹
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Trump is a true patriot. He always puts the country first. So admirable of the guy.Willing to sacrifice everything to help the country.
Trump says he 'will do whatever' he can to 'help the country' after FBI raid
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Wegotarealwinnerherefolks wrote:
yupp! wrote:
You do realize that nearly 80% of the board voted for Trump, right?
Yes, I fixed your error above and yes I do realize that it's the same 6 liberals posting over and over and over to gain approval since the election steal. They also ignore all of Obummers lies and cheating. Yes, 80% of the board and country voted for Trump but the libs cheated.
LRC did a poll and Trump barely got 20%.
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Real Obvi wrote:
Skuj wrote:
So, what is Trump up to? He would never say this unless there was some ulterior motive.
He's trying to weasel.
Nothing surprising or interesting about that, since it's Trump.
Any attorney in the country, besides Giuliani, would have advised him not to make that call.
Based on the certification by one of his attorneys, it appears to be a fact that he didn’t want to return the documents. His only explanation so far is that what he did was like someone bringing work home from the office.
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sandy p wrote:
Trump is a true patriot. He always puts the country first. So admirable of the guy.Willing to sacrifice everything to help the country.
Trump says he 'will do whatever' he can to 'help the country' after FBI raid
I am sure he will just do that.
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