Official 2019 Brussels DL Discussion Thread - Bye, bye to the 5k, Ajee goes for the 800 title, and much more

I don't want to search the whole thread.

Can someone please post the 5k results? Thank you.

Results please wrote:

I don't want to search the whole thread.

Can someone please post the 5k results? Thank you.

hassan

gidey

koko

obiri.

in that order. winning time 14;26. Hassan's first victory against obiri.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

hassan

gidey

koko

obiri.

in that order. winning time 14;26. Hassan's first victory against obiri.

Thank you very much. I'm watching the video now.

Centro has 2016 World Indoor Gold, World Outdoor silver 2013 and bronze 2011, and 2016 Olympic Gold and 2012 Olympic 4th.

He is an incredible championship runner. He lost to Asbel Kiprop, the EPO cheat, in three of those races. Remove Kiprop's medals, which you should retroactively due for any EPO cheat, and Centro moves up to silver in 2011 and gold in 2013.

I suspect that he was beaten by other drug cheats in other championships.

should retroactively do

big dave22 wrote:

Hassan is the best 800-10000 runner in the world. She's like Webb at his peak, except arguably better. Then again, she didn't have to deal with desperate Appalachian poverty.

Webb at his peak; you mean the three or four weeks in July of 2007. What you meant to say was Hassan has a range very similar to Aouita. Webb ..lololol

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Hassan went all out.

I have watched Hassan kick since she broke out, but this was a new level for her. She ran a 42 final 300m (56.x 400 pace), running wide at the start of it and looking backwards every third stride. She had a pop and smoothness I've never seen from her before. She could have run 57 readily if needed. It wasn't. We'll see which Obiri shows in Doha, but even the best Obiri would have been on the ropes today. Hassan is looking like the Mo Farah of women's distance right now.

YMMV wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Hassan went all out.

I have watched Hassan kick since she broke out, but this was a new level for her. She ran a 42 final 300m (56.x 400 pace), running wide at the start of it and looking backwards every third stride. She had a pop and smoothness I've never seen from her before. She could have run 57 readily if needed. It wasn't. We'll see which Obiri shows in Doha, but even the best Obiri would have been on the ropes today. Hassan is looking like the Mo Farah of women's distance right now.

I hope her doorbell works.

2:16 is not Centro's 8k pace. He ran 13:20 and you can't judge his 10k xc time as indicative of what he would run on the track. He would certainly run closer to 28 than 30. 28 minute 10k is 2:14.4/800m. It would be 10k or slower for him.

In that race, he closed around 1:50.

In the women's 1500m in Rio, the race was very similar. They went out in 76/71=2:27, then ran 56.80 and the last 800m was about 1:56-57 for Kipyegon. Rowbury was in the Centro role running extremely slowly but gave up the lead before it got fast. Simpson ran a brilliant tactical race, holding back on the third lap in which Muir was toasted, and made up most of it on Dibaba for bronze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOAeTfI-Tlc

Webb ran 27:34 in 2006.

YMMV wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Hassan went all out.

I have watched Hassan kick since she broke out, but this was a new level for her. She ran a 42 final 300m (56.x 400 pace), running wide at the start of it and looking backwards every third stride. She had a pop and smoothness I've never seen from her before. She could have run 57 readily if needed. It wasn't. We'll see which Obiri shows in Doha, but even the best Obiri would have been on the ropes today. Hassan is looking like the Mo Farah of women's distance right now.

don't think so. Hassan has never run 14;18. And this time was only 14:26. Like I stated it was a good win, but her FIRST win against obiri. And Obiri beat her this year with a 14;21.

I don't lose sight of things off of one race, because anyone can have a great race and someone not have a great race.

For instance, hassan beat dibaba for the first time last week. But Dibaba smoked her with the fastest time this year of 3:55

Hassan is in great form right now, but we have seen this from her before and from other athletes who look good during the regular season, but come championship time or Olympic time it is another story. Hassan went in to the indoor world chamionsips last year as the favorite, because Dibaba had a terrible 2017 year. But Dibaba smoked her in the 1500 and 3000m.

So one race means nothing. One can look out of this world in one race, and look like s h i t e the next race. That's what I know about track and field.

And we have no idea what Ayana is going to do at 10000m..... so 1500 - 10000m are still huge, huge question marks because all the top women can run fast as hell.

If Kipyegon is ready to go at 1500m this year, no one beats her. Too strong for the whole damn field. Kipyegon can run a 56 second last lap.

5000m: It will either be Obiri or Hassan, whoever is in form.

10000m: don't know if hassan is running. don't know what Ayana is doing ...up in the air.

We shall see. However, I will say hassan is the second best female track and field athlete of the year behind Shaunie Miller.

Who was the idiot who walked out on the track???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9qdlM0VwYY&t=245s

ex-runner wrote:

cheruiy on top wrote:

Remember when Coevett said the days of sub 3:32 races were over? lmao what and idiot.

Top guys running 3:30 for fun now. This is one of the greatest era's in 1500m running male and female in history.

Better than the EPO era of the '90's/2000's? Of course it is.

zxcvzcvx wrote:

Webb ran 27:34 in 2006.

BFD .. Aouita ran 27:26 in July of 1986

zxczcxv wrote:

Jakob had a lot left.

and he nearly always does. A bad habit if you want your PB to match your potential.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

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Did you even see the race? It literally was one of the greatest wind-up kicks in running history. Hassan was over a second in arrears at 800 to go, but closed in 2:02.3 with a 42.0 final 300 to demolish the best field assembled in years. This is like a 12:58 men's race closing in 1:49 and a 37.8 300. GOAT material. Regardless of what happens in Doha, this race stands alone on it's own merits.

Lol, despite your lengthy post you seriously have absolutely no idea what you're writing about. Hassan closed a 14:26 race today with a fcking 2:33 last 1000m/sub60 last lap, totally aburd and no wonder Obiri had zero kick left at the last lap. Even when Obiri smoked Ayana at 2017 WC with a slower 14:36 winning time, she "only" closed with a 2:44 last k/60.x last lap, I hope you understand the difference.

Also your repeated claims that this was Hassan's first win against Obiri are wrong. It was her first win at 5000m, she beated her numerous times at other distances, even long before her time at NOP.

YMMV wrote:

She ran a 42 final 300m (56.x 400 pace), running wide at the start of it and looking backwards every third stride. She had a pop and smoothness I've never seen from her before. She could have run 57 readily if needed.

It's quite a bit easier to run a 42 than a 57, especially if you're not fresh.

Bad Wigins wrote:

zxczcxv wrote:

Jakob had a lot left.

and he nearly always does. A bad habit if you want your PB to match your potential.

Jakob probably wants to establish his dominance over the rest at this stage.

Doha will be a different story as we know Tim has a history of failing to perform on the biggest stage without a pacemaker and after rounds.

It's scary to think how much better Jakob will be to the rest by Tokyo. This is Tim's last ever chance to win a global gold.