Kiprop stunk in Rio. Stunk!!! He was clearly off the stuff. He was all detached and not with it. You could tell before the race he knew he would stink. Centro won in record slow time because it was more honest race IMO....
Now Monaco 2015... My favourite YouTube 1500, I can not watch the same again ☹.. If this is all true..
you see it, you can not make names like jiaaf did and discredit clean people,
It was the summer of 1989 when 28-year-old Yobes Ondieki showed a form he had never shown before.
The world would never be the same. It's not just the 1500m. It's not just middle distance. It's everything and everyone. Americans and Euros and Brits as well as Africans.
The IAAF can't admit this but there's no excuse for the objective observer to adopt the ostrich position.
And yes, micro-dosing does work.
paciacca wrote:
you see it, you can not make names like jiaaf did and discredit clean people,
Wow are you stupid. Clean people? Go take a shower.
If you believe they were clean, then you are just willfully ignorant. Because you want something, doesn't make it so.
Banana Bread wrote:
Boots. wrote:
It's a truism that the doped athletes are the gold medal winners and that doping works .
Do we seriously believe Geb and Bekele were clean?
Yes they were clean. And you do realise that if Dennis is catched then Bekele will technically literally own the world records for 2k, 5, 10k and the marathon
+1
“… and I feel confident in saying that Asbel’s breaking of the world record this year is all but a certainty.”
Too many gullible T&F fans. These cheaters and the people helping them have ruined the sport.
I did not take any drugs. I was just aggressively kissing an infected cow that was being treated by an Indian doctor.
I AM CLEAN.
I wonder if all he did was eat some "tainted" meat?
this is awesome.
not just some speculation, but real stuff on a very very high-level athlete
what a waste of so much training and effort. his entire career is a sham now.
There could be something good to come out of this story, less jibes at the real great, Makhdaddy!
I don’t ever want to hear “there’s zero testing in Kenya” again. Fact is, there is intensive testing in Kenya and it’s catching big fish. Can’t say the same for America and Europe.
Unless of course, it’s a Kenyan problem
http://thesportdigest.com/2018/04/italy-tops-list-of-countries-with-most-doping-cases-in-2016/
https://www.insidethegames.biz/media/file/105594/2016_adrvs_report_web_release_april_2018_0.pdf
soybeanz wrote:
I wonder if all he did was eat some "tainted" meat?
nah, that was just dirty American P.O.S.
two things:
1) FREE JAKIR to comment on this.
2) I recently tried to explain to a lot of idiots why Mo Farah moving to marathon made no sense, when he was the second best 1500 runner without even training for it. Now he's the best 1500 runner of the past 5 years, without even training for it. Whereas his marathon progression shows he will probably never even be top 10 at the pinnacle of his career at the distance.
So here are two theories as to why Kenyans are getting busted and western white guys aren't.
1. White guys have better access to labs/private testing/info about microdosing/tipoffs about OOC test visits
2. Only black guys are doping.
Hmm. Wonder which I'd pick?
at the creation wrote:
It was the summer of 1989 when 28-year-old Yobes Ondieki showed a form he had never shown before.
The world would never be the same. It's not just the 1500m. It's not just middle distance. It's everything and everyone. Americans and Euros and Brits as well as Africans.
The IAAF can't admit this but there's no excuse for the objective observer to adopt the ostrich position.
And yes, micro-dosing does work.
https://www.si.com/vault/1989/07/10/120169/big-show-in-oslo-africas-indomitable-runners-led-the-way-in-the-best-track-meet-since-seoul
It was 88 when Kenyans athletes like Ereng and Rono suddenly started showing form they had never shown before. Clinical research EPO was probably already filtering through to American based Kenyans such as ...Ereng (moved to USA in1987) and Rono (moved to USA in 1987).
But please, stop the craap about everybody was doing it. The Brits and Americans (leaving aside Lagat) clearly weren't or they would have been faster not slower.
Brits didn't destroy track and field. EPO didn't destroy track and field. Kenyans and Moroccans taking EPO destroyed track and field.
So does Centro get a 2013 Gold and 2011 Silver now?
soybeanz wrote:
I wonder if all he did was eat some "tainted" meat?
Tainted meat?
Wasn't that already used by Ajee??? Hmmm.........
Wonderment wrote:
Gotta wonder about Manangoi and Cheriouyot as well....
No, not really. I think we already "know"....
That said, expect either a denial or a confession...except the confession will be that this is the first time because he was struggling from injury and tried a short cut to get back to where he was.
As I've said many times on here and on various cycling forums:
How do you know if an athlete is doping? By the fact they are getting paid a lot to be the best in the world.
The article says an out of competition test, so I would imagine its sheer luck. The last 10 years luck was on the side of Kiprop, but in 2018, it was not. Probably got a little greedy with the dosing since typically there haven't been OOC testing.
Oh Please wrote:
Wonderment wrote:
Gotta wonder about Manangoi and Cheriouyot as well....
No, not really. I think we already "know"....
That said, expect either a denial or a confession...except the confession will be that this is the first time because he was struggling from injury and tried a short cut to get back to where he was.
As I've said many times on here and on various cycling forums:
How do you know if an athlete is doping? By the fact they are getting paid a lot to be the best in the world.
The article says an out of competition test, so I would imagine its sheer luck. The last 10 years luck was on the side of Kiprop, but in 2018, it was not. Probably got a little greedy with the dosing since typically there haven't been OOC testing.
Yes. Kiprop will likely say it was the first time. Remember he announced was moving up to the 5000m for championship competitions.