Ajee Wilson loses her indoor 800 American record as the US beef supply contains a banned substance

FNN wrote:

Fredly wrote:

Here is an article that doesn't agree with the process.

The question here is, is she guilty or not, no discipline because of no performance enhancement, but she loses a record and forfeits money?

She may be innocent, but this is odd

http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/ajee-wilsons-positive-test-something-other-than-beef-smells-rancid-here/

"American middle-distance runner, Ajee Wilson from Philadelphia, PA, tested positive for a banned performance-enhancing anabolic steroid called Zeranol."

Zeranol is not an anabolic steroid.

Its not a steroid at ALL!

The decision is correct ,if anyone can be bothered to read the rules this will be clear .

The more interesting point is that the drug is allowed in cattle or so USAda says and thus does not have to be declared anywhere by the people selling it and thus there can be no fault by the athlete .

This means that WAda and their testing has an other big big problem and thus case heralds the day when drug testing is seen as far to complicated and far to expensive to be worth the effort .

The drug In question is only one of many enhancers allowed and these are far far less than those used that are not allowed .

I await some very rich sportsman to bankrupt the testers if they ever get one caught on this stupidity .

There is a Liverpool French Soccer player who is already taking very costly action against shoddy WADA.

The end of testing is neigh , let's await lots of records , big crowds and big sponsors .I think the IOC will be pleased this monkey will be off their back .

That's right and I had changed it earlier on and failed to click save. So that is the way it has read all day - it is corrected now as "performance enhancing drug".

Not that the drug is beside the point, but the point of the article is to direct attention at USADA. You can't suggest that someone did not benefit from PEDS, intentional or not and discipline them.....but not discipline them.

What in my opinion they should have done was come out aggressive with "inadvertent" consumption and zero discipline, let her keep the record and money and no suspension, meaning she did not intentionally consume zeranol for sure.

The way it appears is, "we can slide this one by the public if we say this....".

Not good optics at all.

I definitely did not agree with it.

Ivan the troll poster wrote:

Fredly wrote:

Here is an article that doesn't agree with the process.

Many Russians disagreed with your "McLaren" process against us too. But did you care about "due process" then,?

exthrower wrote:

They take masking/flushing agents....That's why the small amount detected...I'm amazed at the naivety here....

Has to be the same person. Both are stupid in exactly the same ways and make identical BS statements.

Yeah, she took a masking agent to hide a substance that increases estrogen. LOL!!! You f***ing idiot.

The whole system is whack but I think it's fair to say that usada is among the more hell bent NDOs. Ask Lance. Ask NOP.

Plenty of other countries are either incompetent, complicit, or even demanding that athletes dope!

Any insinuation that usada is soft on dopers is ludicrous.

exthrower wrote:

She failed a drug test for an anabolic agent and you fools/apolagists twist yourselves in knots in order to excuse her...why?

why even have drug testing?

Hi Sprintgeezer!

Fredly wrote:

Here is an article that doesn't agree with the process.

The question here is, is she guilty or not, no discipline because of no performance enhancement, but she loses a record and forfeits money?

She may be innocent, but this is odd

http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/ajee-wilsons-positive-test-something-other-than-beef-smells-rancid-here/

Don't be too cognitively disconnected.

I think it's called cutting a deal. That's why the no ban, yes record annulment.

Powers that be don't want her out of the sport, other powers that be want a warning at least. True story doesn't come out , compromise. GO USA TRACK!

I repeat that the rules were followed .

I also repeat this is an other nail in expensive and untenable testing .

The UCLA has a problem , what problems exist in the theirs world testing , would soccer teams / agents allow a ban from these labs . Ad soon as criminal evidence standards and human rights apply it will be records and full stadiums and a happy IOC as testing will stop .

If a boxer has a no fault no negligence sanction for such as contamination and looses 10 million prize and title (or golf etc ) would Wada last ?

Birmingham wrote:

I repeat that the rules were followed .

I also repeat this is an other nail in expensive and untenable testing .

The UCLA has a problem , what problems exist in the theirs world testing , would soccer teams / agents allow a ban from these labs . Ad soon as criminal evidence standards and human rights apply it will be records and full stadiums and a happy IOC as testing will stop .

Be smarter. Deal making would mean that rules were bent.

A nail in the coffin perhaps either way. Not everyone wants accountability.

As to your boxing story.

The boxer would fight for the money if he were legitimately wronged, or maybe it would have never been taken from him in the first place! Think about it for a minute! Or, he might accept the huge loss as part of a deal , so that he could have a chance to go after another prize.

Keps wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Wasn't it Jeff Sessions that helped them get away with this?

This is a nonsense excuse, if you eat contaminated meat you are far too sick to break records.

I don't think you understand the meaning of "contaminated" in this context. The banned substance itself would be the alleged contamination. But actually, it's added to the cattle deliberately as a growth hormone, so contamination really isn't the best way of describing it.

Exactly, but the current testing regime barely finds anything unless it is in abundance, so for it to show up in the meat that is interesting in itself.

Lost my respect for Ajee... how do you lose the AR if you did nothing wrong?

At least Salazar's group is always testing negative and he doesn't feed them "tainted meat."

What a lame excuse.

Kh

I do wish people would read the rules and the USAda statement before saying they don't understand.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Ajee Wilson's coach shares his thoughts with us on the positive test.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/06/ajee-wilsons-coach-derek-thompson-says-dont-anything-hide-coming-win-usas/

We should invite her mother for another unbiased update

Imagine the guys in the 70s, 80s, 90s,and early 2000s that ran with this drug in their bodies before it was tested.

Dopers out, Ajee.

"WHERE THERE IS SMOKE, THERE IS FIRE."

- Confuscious

kh wrote:

"WHERE THERE IS SMOKE, THERE IS FIRE."

- Confuscious

Right. No case of inadvertent consumption, sabotage, or testing error/false pos has ever occurred. In history. If any amount of anything above zero is ever found, you are guilty and should be hung.

And only your hero/heroine is clean, all other athletes are dirty.

Then why did she lose her AR?

I am from her area, so a big fan.