Willis is clean wrote:
Nick Willis is clean.
Yes, maybe Murphy, Gregson, Blankenship.
Willis is clean wrote:
Nick Willis is clean.
Yes, maybe Murphy, Gregson, Blankenship.
Luv2runDC wrote:
Allyson Felix
Tiana Bartoletta
Torie Bowie
Delilah Mohammed
Kendra Harrison
Kirani James
Aren't some of these coached by Bob Kersee?
Random1 wrote:
Judging by your weak command of proper capitalization and other elementary writing skills and your weird, borderline creepy obsession with this witch hunt, I'm guessing your real name is Steve Magness.
Really? Your judging someone on the Internet Let Run based on typing skills. Clarence or Felicia? The fact that you dont get that is your problem.im busy
I have faith that Caster is clean.
Olympic Truth wrote:
Twinn wrote:Olympic Truth, you know younare not going to convince the trolls you have something valuable to say. I suggest you spend your time being as informative as you can, maybe a blog-like post that explains what you know. What substances were HS kids taking, that you know of? Who advised/supervised them? How did they get access? What was the scene in your own country vs. the US? What was thier plan to mask/conceal/hide their doping? What events? Other sports too?
I know I am actually using this as a starting point for some research.
Most of the kids I have had conversation with, after they became adults and told me they got from a friend in school and now many on the Internet. The boards are a big thing for the kids. The US is ahead, but the internet has closed that gap on steroids, but the designers are big in the track world.Most just go off. I have alot more research to do. I wrote a paper back in 2005 that got published about the diffusion of Steroids to the world via the Internet. I actually picked Portugal and Mexico and Jamaica to become better at track. I got one right.
Look into Portugese cycling and you'll find what you are looking for. Not world beaters like Jamaica (do have a former world champion), but more like the US masters scene where everyone dopes to win their local race: incredible domestic performances that are only replicated at other domestic, low-key races. Things like 6.7 w/kg for 20' climbs is TDF level, but is only done at the Volta au Portugal by 3rd tier domestic teams.
Olympic Truth wrote:
BoneHawk wrote:I would put a lot of money on Nick Willis being clean
It didn't even take 3 minutes. Wikipedia
Over a 66-day period (15 May – 20 July) leading up to the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, Willis ran his best times over four different distances. Two of those runs doubled as new national records.[18]
He began with a time of 13m 20.33s over 5000m on 15 May. On June 11 he became the second New Zealander after Sir John Walker to break 3m 50s over a mile when finishing second at the Bislett G
Willis won the 1500m silver medal in the 2008 Summer Olympics. He originally placed third but the eventual disqualification of Rashid Ramzi due to a positive drug test saw Willis's bronze medal become a silver one, which he received in 2011.
So he is totally clean and he just barely lost to a none cheat. Set 3 national records in 2 months.
I'll bet OVER $10,000. This plus his 329 PR. It's not even a fair bet HE IS DIRTY.
You utter moron, so let's get this right, Willis ran 3:30.35 in 2012 (four years after his surprise silver) in a fast race in Monaco but shaving 0.4s off this time in another fast race in Monaco in 2014 (3:29.91) then running a mile race at an equivalent pace 3:49. That is somehow suspicious!
After bombing out in London, Willis decided he would switch to the 5000m in 2014, so in order to run at the Commonwealth games 5000m, Willis (like all other NZ'ers has to meet qualifying standards) so he ran his first 5000m as a senior not surprising he ran a PB. But before he raced this distance he ran a 3000m to get used to the 5k, so not surprisingly that running the event for the first time with pacemakers against the top Kenyans he ran a pb. He proved to be sub par at 5k and bombed out at that event and naturally ditched it for the 1500m. His PB for 5k wouldn't meet NZ Olympic qualifying standards.
I would take your $10,000 bet because I know he that he is clean. He is never hiding in Rabat or Ethiopia for 6 months at a time.
Caster Semen.....ya wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:It didn't even take 3 minutes. Wikipedia
Over a 66-day period (15 May – 20 July) leading up to the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, Willis ran his best times over four different distances. Two of those runs doubled as new national records.[18]
He began with a time of 13m 20.33s over 5000m on 15 May. On June 11 he became the second New Zealander after Sir John Walker to break 3m 50s over a mile when finishing second at the Bislett G
Willis won the 1500m silver medal in the 2008 Summer Olympics. He originally placed third but the eventual disqualification of Rashid Ramzi due to a positive drug test saw Willis's bronze medal become a silver one, which he received in 2011.
So he is totally clean and he just barely lost to a none cheat. Set 3 national records in 2 months.
I'll bet OVER $10,000. This plus his 329 PR. It's not even a fair bet HE IS DIRTY.
You utter moron, so let's get this right, Willis ran 3:30.35 in 2012 (four years after his surprise silver) in a fast race in Monaco but shaving 0.4s off this time in another fast race in Monaco in 2014 (3:29.91) then running a mile race at an equivalent pace 3:49. That is somehow suspicious!
After bombing out in London, Willis decided he would switch to the 5000m in 2014, so in order to run at the Commonwealth games 5000m, Willis (like all other NZ'ers has to meet qualifying standards) so he ran his first 5000m as a senior not surprising he ran a PB. But before he raced this distance he ran a 3000m to get used to the 5k, so not surprisingly that running the event for the first time with pacemakers against the top Kenyans he ran a pb. He proved to be sub par at 5k and bombed out at that event and naturally ditched it for the 1500m. His PB for 5k wouldn't meet NZ Olympic qualifying standards.
I would take your $10,000 bet because I know he that he is clean. He is never hiding in Rabat or Ethiopia for 6 months at a time.
Neither are Rupp, Centro, Rowbury, etc. but they still get accused of cheating all the time. Willis is no more or less suspicious than any of them. In fact, people rail on Mo Farah all the time because he set his 1500m PB after 30, but Willis set his 1500m PB while being a YEAR older than Farah.
Even Cheserek gets accused of being drugged up, and he's running in the college system with times we would expect to be perfectly reasonable given how great he was in HS.
Here's the thing. The NOP is accused of cheating because they win. Farah is accused of cheating because he wins. Cheserek is accused of cheating at the college level because he wins. When people who aren't fans of runners see them win, they immediately accuse them of cheating. Why? I have no idea.
The only reason Willis has a decent reputation on the MBs is because he never actually manages to win. If he wins Gold in ANY major championship, he'll be crucified like the rest of them.
As it stands now, Willis has just as much and just as little of a chance of doping as anyone else who hasn't tested positive (or had a coach recently caught with a bunch of EPO).
Probably Atlee Mahorn
Since the OP couldn't ever go faster he developed the logic that nobody else could unless they were on drugs, thereby coming to the conclusion that he's the standard of what is humanly possible
Oh my, "Neither are Rupp, Centro, Rowbury, etc. but they still get accused of cheating all the time. Willis is no more or less suspicious than any of them. In fact, people rail on Mo Farah all the time because he set his 1500m PB after 30, but Willis set his 1500m PB while being a YEAR older than Farah."
Willis 25 APR 1983
Farah 23 MAR 1983
Oh Seyta your not very bright, you couldn't even get that one right. Mo is about one month older then Willis. In 2006 Willis was betting Mottram (over Willis's distances admittedly) yet at the same time Mottram was miles ahead of Mo. Mo was B-grade until 2009/10 then suddenly he became invincible in a very short space of time and has won 11/12 subsequent championship finals. Now that is suspicious. Willis was running about 3:41/42 when he was 16/17 because I was running against him and he was way younger then me but still humiliating me, At this time he had no access to EPO, blood bags and he showed no signs of steroid abuse (muscle formation) and he has only slowly improved since then at a believable rate. He was then (in 1999/2000) running only 30 miles a week but could do 3:41/42. He is tested all year long, unlike Jamaicans.
Olympic Truth wrote:
I'm serious. Pick from the finals of any race 100-1500.
I know most of the name guys, and they are all dirty.
100- ALL DIRTY- pick a semi finalist
200 same
400 same
800- open
1500 1st thru 5th dirty- after that open
Deca & Hep-all medalist dirty
Jumps could be clean- technical
Of course I am open to discussion. But the nice guy. down to earth, he's skinny line is useless.
Bolt no chance beyond the obvious. Look at him in late 2006 on youtube he lost to Gay, he was crushed then less than 2 years later BOOM 19.3 and all the weight gain. Again on youtube he gained like 40lbs in 6 months. They show him in Jan. skinny! Then winning the gold in London. But that's easy.
Unreal progression is the easiest way to tell. But they have ways of dodging that...aka MJ, Carl all took a year off then drop the time. Still MJ went from a 21. in high school to 19. (i think) in his soph. year.
anyone 10.1 or better consistent dirty; There should be a steady improvement from the beginning of the year etc.
If Christophe Lemaitre is doping, he needs to find a better dealer.
According to his story wrote:
Probably Atlee Mahorn
Since the OP couldn't ever go faster he developed the logic that nobody else could unless they were on drugs, thereby coming to the conclusion that he's the standard of what is humanly possible
Wrong I have admitted several times that I was not that fast just faster than you.
If you are just looking to put someone down because of what ever personal problem you have. No money, ugly , non-athlete, etc. just to make your self feel better please leave.
I actually like Mahorn, and its always been a maybe . i ran against twice I think. He was in a bad time where everyone from Canada was using, so he got cast in a bad light, but he is a strong maybe. I always felt we were similar except he was faster.
Caster Semen.....ya wrote:
Oh my, "Neither are Rupp, Centro, Rowbury, etc. but they still get accused of cheating all the time. Willis is no more or less suspicious than any of them. In fact, people rail on Mo Farah all the time because he set his 1500m PB after 30, but Willis set his 1500m PB while being a YEAR older than Farah."
Willis 25 APR 1983
Farah 23 MAR 1983
Oh Seyta your not very bright, you couldn't even get that one right. Mo is about one month older then Willis. In 2006 Willis was betting Mottram (over Willis's distances admittedly) yet at the same time Mottram was miles ahead of Mo. Mo was B-grade until 2009/10 then suddenly he became invincible in a very short space of time and has won 11/12 subsequent championship finals. Now that is suspicious. Willis was running about 3:41/42 when he was 16/17 because I was running against him and he was way younger then me but still humiliating me, At this time he had no access to EPO, blood bags and he showed no signs of steroid abuse (muscle formation) and he has only slowly improved since then at a believable rate. He was then (in 1999/2000) running only 30 miles a week but could do 3:41/42. He is tested all year long, unlike Jamaicans.
Right on.
Willis has shown a steady progression since high school. Your only "evidence" is a Wikipedia quote regarding his 3,000m and 5,000m PBs, distances he has rarely run as a professional.
Get me in the queue to take that $10k bet against you!!!
Damien Marsh 10.13 in 1995 to win IAAF Grand Prix final in Monaco.
i think all the refugees competing were drug free,same with sarah attar of saudi arabia,the qatari and somali female 400 meter runners,the runners from timor leste,and solomon islands,and lots more lower leval athletes.most wildcard athletes ,if not all,would be drug free.some of them wouldnt have even heard of performance enhancers.a high proportion of high and triple jumpers are clean,and quite a few marathon runners and race walkers.probably half the decathletes,and heptathletes would be clean.
Caster Semen.....ya wrote:
Willis is clean wrote:Nick Willis is clean.
Yes, maybe Murphy, Gregson, Blankenship.
Maybe the two frenchies Lemaitre and Bosse, La Caze. Some of the high jumpers and pole vaulters. Val Adams, Tom Walsh.
He ran 10.77 in 1992 lol I thought you were doing 10.3-.4-.5s
I highly doubt people were thinking a guy running women's times was doping lmao
De Grasse is clean.
Elessar wrote:
De Grasse is clean.
50/50
I've got two questions,
The first is if everyone is doping than why are we worried about it? Basically from reading through even highschoolers are, so there's no way that we could ever stop doping completely, so why are we talking about anyone being clean and worrying?
And two, what makes you think everyone that questions you here is jealous of your looks, or jealous that you ran in the Olympics with highschool times, or why do you think distance runners a are jealous of your 100 times?
Sidney McLaughlin
go away if you don;t enjoy it. And dope isn't why you are an also ran.
The physical talent band for success is much more broad than mental one.