Fastest historic untainted 100m times

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Sprints Insider wrote:

I started to not even justify this garbage with a comment. You have your mind set on certain people and as one who knows for certain who has gone dirty and those who for certain are or were clean and then those that people are not certain of but are questionable.

You can't tag everyone with a certain coach as dirty first of all. Ato Boldon was clean and not once in all the Balco BS did his name come up.

Next you can't stick your head in the sand over athletes like Donovan Bailey and pretend they are clean. You had similar feelings for Gay and Powell and look where we are now.

You disqualify a guy like Ryan Bailey despite piles of evidence that he has always been clean. Not one thing has pointed to his being dirty like his Canadian namesake or Bruny Surin.

I just wish before you go hurting the events you love by posting complete BS about some very honest and legit people that you would take a minute before slandering some of our sports best who have no evidence against them.

Mo Greene plent of evidence. Gone! Carl, lots of evidence. Gone! Tyson, Gatlin and others who have a positive test. Gone! But until you have something more than BS or idle speculation please refrain from mislabeling some of our sports best.

BECAUSE I NEVER FORGET:

http://www.flotrack.org/article/59825-ryan-bailey-served-a-backdated-six-month-doping-ban#.WYOUxtQrLGh

Hey "Sprints Insider", you absolute steaming pile of crap, what do you have to say for yourself now? Must be pretty hard to say anything with your head shoved so far up your azz. You ignorant, arrogant, POS moran.

WTF do you know? Nothing. Your comments are absolute garbage.

Ryan Bailey is OFF. And YOU are a piece of crap, with your sanctimonious b.s.. Come out and take your beating like a man.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

I have no idea what the results of this will be.

By "issues", I mean:

no sanction for substance-related rule violation

no justifiable cloud of suspicion

no positive test results

no generally-agreed-upon bogus race result or wind reading

no altitude-assisted times

no wind-assisted times

Here's the list, as I see it, unadjusted:

Bailey 9.84

Surin 9.84

Burrell 9.85

Carter 9.85 (I think he's dirty, but that's just me)

Thompson 9.85 (I have questions about Port-of-Spain results)

Fredericks 9.86

Obikwelu 9.86

Bledman 9.86 (I have questions about Port-of-Spain results)

Dix 9.88

Frater 9.88

Padgett 9.89

Patton 9.89

Makusha 9.89

Scott 9.91

Atkins 9.91 (I have lingering doubts)

Martina 9.91

Dasaolu 9.91

Cason 9.92

Harden 9.92

Lemaitre 9.92

Marsh 9.93

P. Johnson 9.93

Fasuba 9.93

Williams 9.93

Ashmeade 9.93

Ezinwa 9.94

Ogunkoya 9.94

Henderson 9.95

Aliu 9.95

J. Johnson 9.95

Martin 9.95

Kimmons 9.95

Forsythe 9.95

Hyman 9.95

Vicaut 9.95

Lattany 9.96

Spearmon 9.96

etc., a whole bunch of guys come in at this point, and I only have so much time.

9.95 (8)

9.94 (2)

9.93 (5)

9.92 (3)

9.91 (4)

9.90 (0)

9.89 (3)

9.88 (2)

9.87 (0)

9.86 (3)

9.85 (3)

9.84 (2)

That's the top 35 of all-time, reasonably not questionable times.

They are all unadjusted times, but that's how the 100m is measured in competition, so that's how I've done it here.

Now this is a list that makes some sense to me.

The fastest 5 guys on the list by basic times are:

Fredericks 9.85

Surin 9.85

(Carter 9.85)

Bailey 9.88

Obikwelu 9.89

I include Carter in brackets because I still think he's been juiced.

So there you have it. I didn't know what the exact results of this would be before I started, but I think it is telling that the best 3 basic times are identical, and are "only" 9.85, all from guys who had long and successful careers, and who had many opportunities on which to lay down a smoking time.

Also telling, I think, is that the top 10 unadjusted times are within only 0.4 of each other, and that the top 5 are within only .01 of each other.

Also telling, I think, is that athletes from different points in the modern era appear on the list, and that the top isn't stacked with guys who are all currently competing.

Notably absent, of course, is Bolt. If even his 9.76 (-0.1) in Rome on May 31, 2012 is to be believed to have been clean, it adjusts to 9.75

Not a chance. I repeat, not a chance. Bolt is OFF the list.

So there you have it. The ethnicities of the top:

Namibian

Haitian

(Jamaican*)

Jamaican

Nigerian

The nationalities of the top:

Namibian

Canadian

(Jamaican*)

Canadian

Portugese

Lots of representation from Nigerian athletes on this list.

Long, tall guys, and short, thick guys, and guys in-between.

REAL freaks like Bailey, who had the perfectly distorted body for short sprinting.

And the BEST short sprinter ever, Fredericks, was African.

This is a list, and facts, that I can live with, unless somebody can show good reason why an athlete or performance should be removed.

Jimmy John wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

I have no idea what the results of this will be.

By "issues", I mean:

no sanction for substance-related rule violation

no justifiable cloud of suspicion

no positive test results

no generally-agreed-upon bogus race result or wind reading

no altitude-assisted times

no wind-assisted times

Here's the list, as I see it, unadjusted:

Bailey 9.84

Surin 9.84

Burrell 9.85

Carter 9.85 (I think he's dirty, but that's just me)

Thompson 9.85 (I have questions about Port-of-Spain results)

Fredericks 9.86

Obikwelu 9.86

Bledman 9.86 (I have questions about Port-of-Spain results)

Dix 9.88

Frater 9.88

Padgett 9.89

Patton 9.89

Makusha 9.89

Scott 9.91

Atkins 9.91 (I have lingering doubts)

Martina 9.91

Dasaolu 9.91

Cason 9.92

Harden 9.92

Lemaitre 9.92

Marsh 9.93

P. Johnson 9.93

Fasuba 9.93

Williams 9.93

Ashmeade 9.93

Ezinwa 9.94

Ogunkoya 9.94

Henderson 9.95

Aliu 9.95

J. Johnson 9.95

Martin 9.95

Kimmons 9.95

Forsythe 9.95

Hyman 9.95

Vicaut 9.95

Lattany 9.96

Spearmon 9.96

etc., a whole bunch of guys come in at this point, and I only have so much time.

9.95 (8)

9.94 (2)

9.93 (5)

9.92 (3)

9.91 (4)

9.90 (0)

9.89 (3)

9.88 (2)

9.87 (0)

9.86 (3)

9.85 (3)

9.84 (2)

That's the top 35 of all-time, reasonably not questionable times.

They are all unadjusted times, but that's how the 100m is measured in competition, so that's how I've done it here.

Now this is a list that makes some sense to me.

The fastest 5 guys on the list by basic times are:

Fredericks 9.85

Surin 9.85

(Carter 9.85)

Bailey 9.88

Obikwelu 9.89

I include Carter in brackets because I still think he's been juiced.

So there you have it. I didn't know what the exact results of this would be before I started, but I think it is telling that the best 3 basic times are identical, and are "only" 9.85, all from guys who had long and successful careers, and who had many opportunities on which to lay down a smoking time.

Also telling, I think, is that the top 10 unadjusted times are within only 0.4 of each other, and that the top 5 are within only .01 of each other.

Also telling, I think, is that athletes from different points in the modern era appear on the list, and that the top isn't stacked with guys who are all currently competing.

Notably absent, of course, is Bolt. If even his 9.76 (-0.1) in Rome on May 31, 2012 is to be believed to have been clean, it adjusts to 9.75

Not a chance. I repeat, not a chance. Bolt is OFF the list.

So there you have it. The ethnicities of the top:

Namibian

Haitian

(Jamaican*)

Jamaican

Nigerian

The nationalities of the top:

Namibian

Canadian

(Jamaican*)

Canadian

Portugese

Lots of representation from Nigerian athletes on this list.

Long, tall guys, and short, thick guys, and guys in-between.

REAL freaks like Bailey, who had the perfectly distorted body for short sprinting.

And the BEST short sprinter ever, Fredericks, was African.

This is a list, and facts, that I can live with, unless somebody can show good reason why an athlete or performance should be removed.

Anyone taking all that time to put something that stupid together has some problems.