In the loop wrote:
OK, I'll change it to
He runs up to 10 miles in a day currently...
He's getting "bashed" for the self-serving lie, not the time he ran.
Nicely stated.
Either he has a poor memory, low amount of integrity, or isn't good with numbers.
Bell Lapper wrote:
Most runners who can do a 3 hour marathon dont just suddenly appear on the scene, run 3 hours and then never run again. If his claimed 3 hour marathon cant be found, perhaps other races are available such as a half marathon. Using predictive calculators such as the McMillan Calculator, it would be simple to extrapolate times from those races in order to see if a 3 hour marathon was within the realm of possibility, around that same time.
http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/index.php/calcUsage/calculate
Actually, not always so. I was a rugby player in college in the late seventies, early eighties and on my second marathon ran 3:03+. I've tried to retrieve the results a couple times to prove to a friend I was faster but I had no luck.
I had no idea how to train, thinking that starting 6-8 weeks before the race was a long time.
I ran four marathons in two years, the last in 1985 and did not run one again until 17 years later and ended up running in the mid-two fifties at age 47.
That 3:03 by the way, was hundreds of places from the front in a field of probably only about 1000 in 1983.
That same time in that same race would today land you in the top forty.
Sounds like he exaggerated his time. Almost as bad as Kerry's having claimed he ran Boston then refusing to correct his "mistake" or provide more details afterwards.
Lulz wrote:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/48864529/#48864529
Why isn't this guy in Guantanamo?
Roger Clinton wrote:
Why isn't this guy in Guantanamo?
Would it make any difference if I told you he was a church-going Christian?
themetazoan wrote:
...Ryan's middle name is Davis, and he was 20 in 1990. The finishing time listed was 4 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds.
Simple explanation. He started the race late by 1 hour, 5 minutes. Thus his "chip time" would have been 2:56:25. Something like that...
Joe Biden.
Congrats to Runners World for not giving letsrun credit for the story.
So much for internet etiquette.
The letsrun poster who started this thread deserves the credit for this.
Do we know that this is THE Paul Ryan. Oh man, I've got goosebumps. Not really, but as close as I get these days. Over 4 hours, that's frickin' awesome.
I think that Runner's World will come through with the citation if they indeed picked it up here.
rsworld wrote:
Congrats to Runners World for not giving letsrun credit for the story.
So much for internet etiquette.
The letsrun poster who started this thread deserves the credit for this.
Don't worry. We know everyone in the industry basically comes to our site - it's a shame so many of them won't admit it.
Left side of the page, RESULTS, AUGUST 12 2012, MILE RUN, 26th PLACE. Paul Ryan.
Bill Walker wrote:
In an Aug. 22 interview by Hugh Hewitt, Representative Ryan said he had run a marathon in "two hour and fifty something." Does anyone know the marathon and the year?
I was thinking about this the other day. Most of the Internet consists of people copying stories from other sources and then given a tiny link to the orignal source. Here we start with a link to the original source and give a tiny bit of perspective to it.
rojo wrote:
it's a shame so many of them won't admit it.
They might feel less ashamed to cite Letsrun if the message board wasn't filled with ridiculous political BS.
Seen on Slowtwitch:
Four hours is Republican for a sub three hour marathon.
Ha. I knew it was BS. If Paul Ryan mans up, admits he made a mistake and apologizes to all the runners out there who have worked so hard to hit a sub 3 marathon, I will have respect for him. I can certainly understand how a casual participant in the sport would have trouble remembering a marathon time from twenty plus years ago. However, if he does not come clean and admit that he was wrong, then he is a dirtbag politician. He knew that his alleged fitness was in the media and was being touted as a virtue. If he does not fess up, it will be clear that he was trying to puff up his image with lies. All he had to do was say "it has been so long I do not remember my time."
Jobby Hogger wrote:
If Obama lied about his birthplace and forged a birth certificate (something I don't believe he did), he did it because he wouldn't have been able to be president without doing so. If someone lies or fudges a past policy position that's now politically problematic, I don't like it, but I get why it's expedient
Ummm... what are you trying to say? Lying about a birth certificate ( which i believe he did) versus a little fib or someone who can't EXACTLY remember a hobby jogging time that he ran? I'm certainly guilty of not remembering certain times/event but I definitely know where I was born or would not lie about it.
LETSRUN, YOU PEAKED AT THE PERFECT TIME!
Great work everybody. I can't wait to see this on the news in the morning.
Rojo should give out badges to the brightest members of the police force who brought down Kip Litton, Connie Mendoza and now the Honorable Representative Paul Ryan.
It seems like Ryan has a thing or two to learn from Kip...
In the loop wrote:
He has an older brother named Stan, and there is a Stanley listed about 97 seconds after him in the results.
Paul's older brother is, in fact, Stanley H. Ryan, a longtime resident of Minneapolis, who was 28 years old back in 1990 -- exactly as the results state. I would guess that the race entries for Stan and Paul used Stan's mailing address, which would explain why Paul's city shows up as Minneapolis in the results.
Totally busted.
Completely agree. I'm looking at printed results of 1970 Mission Bay (San Diego) Marathon (which I still have because I won it in 2:22, couldn't resist the shameless plug, sorry!) Anyway, among 53 who ran 3:03 or faster were no fewer than 26 teenagers, mostly guys coming off X-C (race was in January) who did a long run or two and just jumped into the marathon. Included two 14 year olds (2:55, 2:56), three 15, five 16 (incl. Mike Baer, 2:37:12 for 9th, one place ahead of Doug Schmenk who later was U.S. champion and ran 2:14). Really, if you're young and in any kind of shape 2:5x is nothing. Completely plausible that Ryan could have done it without being running-obsessed, then gotten hazy on the details. IMO most of the posters here are pussies.
Ancient Marathoner wrote:
Completely agree. I'm looking at printed results of 1970 Mission Bay (San Diego) Marathon (which I still have because I won it in 2:22, couldn't resist the shameless plug, sorry!) Anyway, among 53 who ran 3:03 or faster were no fewer than 26 teenagers, mostly guys coming off X-C (race was in January) who did a long run or two and just jumped into the marathon. Included two 14 year olds (2:55, 2:56), three 15, five 16 (incl. Mike Baer, 2:37:12 for 9th, one place ahead of Doug Schmenk who later was U.S. champion and ran 2:14). Really, if you're young and in any kind of shape 2:5x is nothing. Completely plausible that Ryan could have done it without being running-obsessed, then gotten hazy on the details. IMO most of the posters here are pussies.
The point is not whether someone could have run it. The point is that Paul Ryan didn't run and said that he did.