Schmidt won by 20 seconds despite running much of the race with one shoe.
Congrats to the alma mater Williams for the sweep! I don't know how well the men will do at nationals because they won through depth rather than high fliers.
Schmidt won by 20 seconds despite running much of the race with one shoe.
Congrats to the alma mater Williams for the sweep! I don't know how well the men will do at nationals because they won through depth rather than high fliers.
is it just me or does it seem like schmidt loses a shoe pretty often
maybe i'm thinking of someone else
This was a brutal day and a brutal course. Williams ran an unbelievable race and had 4 or 5 guys very close together for most of the race. Bowdoin also ran well with a good run from Coby who caught Rand in the last mile or so. A gutsy run from Schmidt to run the last 2M or so with one shoe. Hopefully he didn't do any lasting damage with that.
That said, I wouldn't put too much stock in the team results. Other than Williams who had a superb day and Tufts who seemed to have a pretty awful day, it looks like things could get mixed up well in the next two weeks. The mud throws a lot of uncertainty into things as certain guys just can't handle it while some guys can power through it. If Bowdoin continues to perform well, it will be a very tight race for the 4 or 5 team spots in two weeks, which means at least 1 and possibly two very good teams will go home disappointed.
Great run by Williams and Bowdoin. Surprised that Tufts and Middlebury didnt run better, in particular Cassidy and Hebble. Interesting to see if they can bounce back. Trinity with a great double.
As someone said on another thread, Tufts was out hard, with what looked like 10 guys in the top 20 a mile plus into the race. Even at 2.5 miles-3 miles they were still looking strong and competitive with Bowdoin and Williams. Things fell apart quickly after that as Rose, Macarthur, Eisenberg, and Wallis all look to have fallen way back through the pack from top 20 to 45th and worse. Not sure if the coach riled them up too much before the race or what but something went wrong. We will see how they adjust at regionals.
Seems like the more conservative pack-running strategies employed by Williams and Bowdoin paid off yesterday. On a sidenote, Davies started off in 100th place and was way back even through 3 miles. Moved up to 13th but probably left it too late.
Incredible races by Schmidt and Horowitz.
Davies is an idiot. He clearly has the talent to finish in the top 5 given his track times. Midd could be a lot better if he puts himself in the race.
Williams looked solid. Not sure what Koima was doing, but if he decides to actually try at regionals Williams should be the favorite.
Bowdoin definitely exceeded expectations. Easily a top 4 team at regionals if they duplicate this performance.
Trinity looked terrible. Green Mountain College give them a run for it at regionals.
So predictions for regional/national rankings?
Predictions for Regionals... which team is best suited for the "track" Bowdoin Course?
Top 10 Individuals?
Go.
Coby!!! Ran a beautiful race, and looked a little too comfortable at the end. My money's still on Schmidt, but Coby could take him. It'll also be interesting to see whether Antoine Gisore or Alex Gomes can challenge for the front. My guess is no.
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Coby!!! Ran a beautiful race, and looked a little too comfortable at the end. My money's still on Schmidt, but Coby could take him. It'll also be interesting to see whether Antoine Gisore or Alex Gomes can challenge for the front. My guess is no.
i'd agree with that. Gisore and Gomes won't be near the front by the end, that is for sure. But they certainly have the talent to be in the next tier down (5-10th) vying for a spot at nationals. Kevin Hoyt from KSC looked great this weekend too; he is flying! I'd bee shocked if they don't finish in the top 15. Other than those 3 there hasn't been many impressive individuals stepping up to even compete with the NESCAC/MIT runners.
according to the bates website they had 3 guys lose shoes (2 top 7) including dilts around the mile mark. looks like they didnt rebound as well as schmidt but they still managed a tie for 2nd. i see them bouncing back and being a strong second to williams with hannan and dilts both top 10 and wortham and graboys close behind. 3rd will be MIT, with bowdoin and midd close behind battling for 4th
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according to the bates website they had 3 guys lose shoes (2 top 7) including dilts around the mile mark. looks like they didnt rebound as well as schmidt but they still managed a tie for 2nd. i see them bouncing back and being a strong second to williams with hannan and dilts both top 10 and wortham and graboys close behind. 3rd will be MIT, with bowdoin and midd close behind battling for 4th
Dilts ran approx 4 miles with one shoe? Boss.
Kid might be a boss but rumor has it he hasn't stayed up later than 10:30 all year except to play Starcraft. Including the summer.
Have got to give Dilts some serious credit, I mean some guys fell and schmidt won with one shoe lost in the 3-4th mile, but to come in 19th at NESCAC's and run most of the race with one shoe in those conditions is unheard of, I see him coming back very STRONG at Bowdoin and hopefully caring the team with him.As for the other teams, I think Williams for the win, with it up in the air for the next 5. It is evident that no team can be discounted at this point in time.Individuals:I think it will be much tighter at Regionals with the from group not breaking up until the last mile or so. Coby is by far one of the most talented runners to come to the NESCAC, but I think Schmidt will again come out ontop.Top 10: No particular orderSchmidtCobyGomesCummingsKoimaLeducHoytHannanDiltsRandNext:...The course favors 5k guys and I think that we will see some impressive times depending on the weather. 24:00 to win it and the pace will be pushed. first mile out in 4:42
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MXC wrote:according to the bates website they had 3 guys lose shoes (2 top 7) including dilts around the mile mark. looks like they didnt rebound as well as schmidt but they still managed a tie for 2nd. i see them bouncing back and being a strong second to williams with hannan and dilts both top 10 and wortham and graboys close behind. 3rd will be MIT, with bowdoin and midd close behind battling for 4th
Dilts ran approx 4 miles with one shoe? Boss.
If the course is a legit 8k, there is no way anyone runs 24:00. That's 4:49 pace. Who is going to take it out that hard and maintain it?
Rand and Schmidt maybe-- but I doubt either is going to try and go through 3 miles at 14:27 and risk blowing up.
My guess is that both will sit in the pack up front which will include: Hoyt, Horowitz, Gomes, Dilts, Cummins, Raduazo, Koima, Hannan, and whoever MIT's top guy is.
Last year Schmidt pulled away fairly easily in the last mile, and the only person really on Schmidt's level this year is Rand. I think Rand peaked at Opens so Schmidt should take it.
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Kid might be a boss but rumor has it he hasn't stayed up later than 10:30 all year except to play Starcraft. Including the summer.
Dude, Dilts wouldn't stay up until 10:30 unless he was seduced by Galadriel and her cohort of elf ladies.
Surprise surprise, Williams comes through and pwns the NESCAC. Farwell knows his stuff, will always have his guys ready when it counts the most. What WAS a surprise was having Bowdoin step up and actually run like a team that wants to go to nationals, and Tufts fall back as far as they did. On the other hand, Brandeis sort of peaked their heads out at UAA's, coming in 4th and beating a couple of mediocre teams in Rochester and Carnegie Mellon. If their number 5 had not blown the big one, they could have been somewhat close to a U Chicago team that has proven a team to be reckoned with.
With the clusterf#&% of a region that New England it seems like any of seven teams (Williams, Bates, Bowdoin, Tufts, MIT, Middlebury, Brandeis) has a chance of winning and going to nationals, although Williams has to be the favorite. We shall see in New Brunswick what teams actually feel like showing up that day.
So false. Everyone knows Dilts heart belongs to Arwen, it's written right on his tatoo.
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Stride 2 wrote:Kid might be a boss but rumor has it he hasn't stayed up later than 10:30 all year except to play Starcraft. Including the summer.
Dude, Dilts wouldn't stay up until 10:30 unless he was seduced by Galadriel and her cohort of elf ladies.
Yes however it must be mentioned that Arwen has sworn herself to Aragorn, and Dilts prefers to liken himself to the Great Gimli Gloin, he enjoys the many similarities he shares with the dwarf. After NESCACS, Dilts could be overheard saying something along the lines of "an orc took my shoe off at mile 1. I felt like minas tirith getting bombarded by sauron's orcs." That being said, dwarves are unbeatable over middle-distance, so look out for him on a course that caters to mid-d and speed guys at bowdoin. That's when he plans on seducing faramir
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Surprise surprise, Williams comes through and pwns the NESCAC. Farwell knows his stuff, will always have his guys ready when it counts the most. What WAS a surprise was having Bowdoin step up and actually run like a team that wants to go to nationals, and Tufts fall back as far as they did. On the other hand, Brandeis sort of peaked their heads out at UAA's, coming in 4th and beating a couple of mediocre teams in Rochester and Carnegie Mellon. If their number 5 had not blown the big one, they could have been somewhat close to a U Chicago team that has proven a team to be reckoned with.
With the clusterf#&% of a region that New England it seems like any of seven teams (Williams, Bates, Bowdoin, Tufts, MIT, Middlebury, Brandeis) has a chance of winning and going to nationals, although Williams has to be the favorite. We shall see in New Brunswick what teams actually feel like showing up that day.
i would give brandeis a 0.0% chance of breaking into the top 6. their spread is awful and they don't have anyone who will be top 15. they got beat badly by midd a couple weeks ago at albany and schmidt didn't even run! the UAA is pretty weak this year after WashU compared to the last few years, and the judges were a DISTANT 4th! i think they will be fighting with conn/wesleyan/others for a very distant 7th at regionals