DIII Outdoor Nationals 2010

IDisagree wrote:

First, I understand that the race was run under pretty lousy conditions.

Second, I understand that he stayed in the race after having to stop to put his shoe back on.

Third, I understand that he also ran the 800 meter not long before the 1500.

Forth, I understand that he still scored several points for his team (a team that was not in contention for the title) in the 1500 .

Fifth, I understand that he probably was still one of the top point scoring athletes on his team.

I'd say he's got balls to stay in a 1500 meter race after losing his shoe. I give him credit for staying in the race.

Your comprehension skills are obviously top-notch.

10k: Pavlus, Freese, Lawton

Pavlus has the runaway XC win plus the indoor 5k and Freese has the best 5k/10k combo, but Lawton should be right there based on the 5k and dominating win over Surtees at UAA.

5k: Reich, Perleburg, Pavlus

Should be a great battle. 2:12/4:26 will be tough to match down the stretch, though, and Perleburg should be fresh.

Mr E-man wrote:

Your comprehension skills are obviously top-notch.

Thank you!

I would put Lawton up there more for the 5K than the 10K. 10K I still think will be a battle between the top 3 seeds... Pavlus, Freese, and Scherer.

5K I think definitely could go to Perleberg. She has probably the best closing speed of anyone in that field that's going to be FRESH on Saturday. Reich is faster but who knows if she'll have enough in the tank after running the 1,500 earlier in the day.

Both the 5K and 10K are going to be GREAT races on the women's side.

Why is the men's 10K significantly slower this year?

Don't know much about Lawton but was thinking her 36:09 win at UAAs could be misleading based on the fact that Surtees (35:45) and Keller (36:04) were 41 and 49sec back. Sounds like the question is whether she can drop any of the top 3 or get stuck with another 4th place finish.

run4fun247365 wrote:

Why is the men's 10K significantly slower this year?

Simple answer: 12 of 17 in last year's field were seniors.

Complicated answers: terrible April weather in much of the midwest and natural fluctuation of talent from distance to distance (the 1500 is VERY strong this year). Even with all that, the last qualifier will still probably be within 5-8 seconds of last year's mark.

freese in the 10k. closed second 5k of 35:13 10k in 17:28, last 400 in 75!

Pavlus vs Freese could be interesting if it comes down to the last lap. Over a minute gap in XC but Freese is clearly on another level now. Not the first person to negative split a 10k but the 16:42 came with a similar kick. Scherer shouldn't be forgotten but taking down Pavlus will be tough.

10k:

Brady

Spain

Flynn

North Central boys hold off Flynn to everyone's collective relief. Murner's recent races don't inspire confidence.

Steeple:

Wirtz

Kaworski

Gillis

A favorite finally emerges. Wirtz for the win, then a 14-way tie for 2nd.

5k:

Berube

Faller

Marker

Berube blows away the field, Faller falls just short in his last chance, Marker has the extra burst that the 10k/steeple guys do not.

it will be between pavlus and lawton if they both do the 10k that 16:41 shows shes right there

Just wondering, when does the field get announced?

Field is announced unofficially tomorrow at noon, officially by 3 p.m.

Do you think Pavlus will try for the triple? (10K, 5K, & Steeple?) If not, which one WON'T she do? I think she'd have a shot certainly at winning all 3!

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not sunyac wrote:

10k:

Brady

Spain

Flynn

North Central boys hold off Flynn to everyone's collective relief. Murner's recent races don't inspire confidence.

Steeple:

Wirtz

Kaworski

Gillis

A favorite finally emerges. Wirtz for the win, then a 14-way tie for 2nd.

5k:

Berube

Faller

Marker

Berube blows away the field, Faller falls just short in his last chance, Marker has the extra burst that the 10k/steeple guys do not.

I like the predictions, though Marker's recent performances don't inspire much confidence either, as he's run a 15:02 and a 14:46 in the last two weeks in races where people ran much faster. I'd put Flynn or maybe Kamm if he's fresh (and if its tactical, as he's got 3:49 speed) in the top three.

Curious as to why you say Flynn loses to the NC guys to everyone's collective relief

113 wrote:

run4fun247365 wrote:

Why is the men's 10K significantly slower this year?

Simple answer: 12 of 17 in last year's field were seniors.

Complicated answers: terrible April weather in much of the midwest and natural fluctuation of talent from distance to distance (the 1500 is VERY strong this year). Even with all that, the last qualifier will still probably be within 5-8 seconds of last year's mark.

The real simple answer is that its not...

2008 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:59, 30:30, 30:29

2009 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:38, 30:26, 30:43

2010 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:45, 30:29, 30:51 (but the 19th fastest time is 30:42)

sorry the 20th fastest time from '08 should read 30:39

I don't know where you are getting your info, but it's wrong. Hany A. and Ian R.N. both ran faster than 29:59 in 2008

The real simple answer is that its not...

2008 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:59, 30:30, 30:29

2009 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:38, 30:26, 30:43

2010 - 1st, 10th and 20th fastest times = 29:45, 30:29, 30:51 (but the 19th fastest time is 30:42)[/quote]

OK, anybody else think this is crazy:

Saint junior Wendy Pavlus finished seventh in the 1500 meters in 4:38.16, improving the 11-year-old record of her high school coach, Amy Farrell, by .51 seconds. It was the last race of the year for Pavlus, a national champion in both cross country and indoor track. While she has qualified for the NCAA Division III Outdoor Championships as an automatic qualifier in both the steeplechase and 10,000 meters and has the sixth best time this season in the 5000 meters, but will be unable to compete due to a conflict with the start of a summer abroad program in Ethiopia.

What would you do in this situation?!? Quite the decision by Pavlus...

wow.

predictions 5 and 10 k now