I think this is a valid take. I wonder if another measure is to simply make agents pay heavily. Imagine if Rosa now paid a massive fine that financially ramped up targeted testing of his best athletes. Think he might take closer order of his athletes then?
That's the best idea I've heard. And make it progressive.
Warning, 6k, 25k, 100k, 400k, 1 million. But it would be really hard to implement.
Why stop there? Time to require the NCAA to test all incoming Kenyans/internationals at New Mexico, Ok State, Arizona, Oregon, Alabama, Texas Tech, etc. If they test positive the Coaches should be banned and the schools fined/suspended.
There's too much NIL/Scholarship money on the line to just let it slide. Maybe a % of the NIL money should go towards funding an NCAA testing program.
slight side topic but I will never forget this workout from Shaheen either that he posted/claimed.
He did 4 x 1600m in the morning in something crazy like 4.03, 4.01, 4.01, 3.59
Came back in the afternoon and did 6 x 300 in 35/36 with 90 seconds rest.
The 6x300 workout is one of a 1.42.0 runner alone. If you can do that workout day you are doping. End of story.
At least in athletics doping is met with opprobrium.
I went to Barry Bonds day at Oracle last weekend. Got a bobble head. 40, 000 strong gave him a standing ovation when he threw out the first pitch.
All game long between innings his former teammates and opponents and other dignitaries of the sport collectively said he was the best they'd ever seen.
Not a person cared about Balco.
Meantime Marion Jones is trying to hold her life together and Regina Jacobs is a real estate agent.
Just wait until rekrunner starts "explaining" her positive test, and whining about the "advantages" the mean AIU has over the poor dopers. Rojo will be sorry.
If I respond to your trolling, will you turn around and call me the troll?
Athletes testing positive for diuretics doesn't mean the balance of justice is not tipped against innocent and guilty athletes alike.
The large concentration here of 3800 ng/mL doesn't seem ambiguous, unlike other anti-doping cases, involving low amounts.
I'll be watching this thread though for scientific links how HCTZ is considered a PED for the women's marathon, and how such a large concentration on April 3rd this year can be linked to previous performances.
I'll be watching with more interest if they can identify any enablers exploiting Kenyan athletes.
Rojo - please, plese, please do not let this thread get "rekrunnered". He stated his opinion and that should be enough. We don't need dozens of posts on it. Please do not let him hijack this thread which is what inevitably happens once he starts posting. And yes, nobody should be engaging with him either.
Everyone at the top is doing it. You think Jakob, Hocker, and even Wightman are possibly clean? Don't be naive.
Yes, I think Wightman could very well be clean. Statistically, 1:43.65/3:29.23 PBs are a hell of a lot more believable than 3:26.73/7:17.55 and dominating 3 straight 5k Championships.
I believe in clean world class runners, and even the occasional gold medalist. Anyone who puts up mind blowing records, whether it’s Kipyegon and Chebet from Kenya, or Jakob and Warholm from Norway, I figure has to be receiving pharmaceutical help.
slight side topic but I will never forget this workout from Shaheen either that he posted/claimed.
He did 4 x 1600m in the morning in something crazy like 4.03, 4.01, 4.01, 3.59
Came back in the afternoon and did 6 x 300 in 35/36 with 90 seconds rest.
The 6x300 workout is one of a 1.42.0 runner alone. If you can do that workout day you are doping. End of story.
At least in athletics doping is met with opprobrium.
I went to Barry Bonds day at Oracle last weekend. Got a bobble head. 40, 000 strong gave him a standing ovation when he threw out the first pitch.
All game long between innings his former teammates and opponents and other dignitaries of the sport collectively said he was the best they'd ever seen.
Not a person cared about Balco.
Meantime Marion Jones is trying to hold her life together and Regina Jacobs is a real estate agent.
Yeah but even if my point is irrelevant to your point it is also true: Barry Bonds was one of the top 50 players in MLB history before the period when it is generally accepted he started doping. The man was born to be a baseball player.
At least in athletics doping is met with opprobrium.
I went to Barry Bonds day at Oracle last weekend. Got a bobble head. 40, 000 strong gave him a standing ovation when he threw out the first pitch.
All game long between innings his former teammates and opponents and other dignitaries of the sport collectively said he was the best they'd ever seen.
Not a person cared about Balco.
Meantime Marion Jones is trying to hold her life together and Regina Jacobs is a real estate agent.
I agree - how about that total sh-tbag Alex Rodriguez? Television analyst these days with everyone continuing to slurp his junk. He was just as nasty as Armstrong trying to abscond himself and he's arguably the most beloved out of every fraudulent former "star".
I know I’m a naïve Pollyanna since it was such an obvious outlier, but Jesus, I was hoping against hope she would test clean. None can be trusted; EVER! If professional running was a stock, it’s now a worthless penny-stock, soon to be de-listed.
Everyone at the top is doing it. You think Jakob, Hocker, and even Wightman are possibly clean? Don't be naive.
Yes, I think Wightman could very well be clean. Statistically, 1:43.65/3:29.23 PBs are a hell of a lot more believable than 3:26.73/7:17.55 and dominating 3 straight 5k Championships.
I believe in clean world class runners, and even the occasional gold medalist. Anyone who puts up mind blowing records, whether it’s Kipyegon and Chebet from Kenya, or Jakob and Warholm from Norway, I figure has to be receiving pharmaceutical help.
I would agree.
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At least in athletics doping is met with opprobrium.
I went to Barry Bonds day at Oracle last weekend. Got a bobble head. 40, 000 strong gave him a standing ovation when he threw out the first pitch.
All game long between innings his former teammates and opponents and other dignitaries of the sport collectively said he was the best they'd ever seen.
Not a person cared about Balco.
Meantime…Regina Jacobs is a real estate agent.
Good for her? What else would she be doing? There wouldn’t be any Regina Jacobs bobble head days regardless of doping.
And the record will still stand for all of eternity.
Why tf is it so hard to take the medals and records from these cheating dbags?!! You should have to give back everything and have every race result wiped clean after a confirmed positive test.
wow, I'm shocked. I remember posting on Reddit that she has the same agent as Jeptoo and Kiprop (the infamous Federico Rosa) and got downvoted to oblivion.
Reddit is the peanut gallery of running discourse. Just last week there was a thread about how much Caster Semenya had been wronged with few voices in opposition to that opinion.
Looking forward to Rojo’s victory lap on the podcast tomorrow!
Rojo asked a simple question. There is no need for a victory lap. Almost everyone was thinking the same thing. Would you do a victory lap if it came out that it was proven that Donald Trump had told a lie?
