What so many posters here don't get is that Filip's comments about his brother are scarcely different from a mother praising her son. They aren't an objective analysis.
As I said, Filip's comments are intended to make Jakob feel good and intimidate the competition. They won't be intimidated. Do you seriously imagine the best runners in the sport aren't also putting the work in? That's how they have beaten him.
You probably said the same before Jakob broke world records and became Olympic Champion last year. You never learn.
No, I thought the same before Prefontaine, the Paris 1500 and Copenhagen HM. Being "loaded" wasn't enough. In fact it hasn't been enough in every outdoor global 1500 championship final since 2021.
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What so many posters here don't get is that Filip's comments about his brother are scarcely different from a mother praising her son. They aren't an objective analysis.
As I said, Filip's comments are intended to make Jakob feel good and intimidate the competition. They won't be intimidated. Do you seriously imagine the best runners in the sport aren't also putting the work in? That's how they have beaten him.
That might be so, but that doesn't help you in your lie.
The "lie" is that whether it's Filip or their father, there isn't any objective credibility to be attached to their boosting Jakob's prospects. What else are they going to say? His training isn't going so well and he could lose yet more finals this year?
Stop taking Armstrongs posts seriously. He once claimed that absolute time(as an improvement) is the same as % improvement. So 0.5 second improvement in the 100 is the same as the marathon. It was a thread about the 3k record in case someone feels like looking it up.
Your wife reads many of Armstronglivs' posts regarding Ingebrigtsen? She knows the behaviour of the guy well, right?
Armstronglivs is a notorious liar - a fact. He has lied many times about what he has written before when even he has realised which contratictioning nonsense he has written. He is not capable to get the most easy facts correct - many many examples for this
In all of his thousands (yes, thousands, and yes this is worth mentioning) of posts regarding this single athlete, he has only one intention: to downplay his achievements and his comments (which might be incorrect sometimes, maybe also arrogant)
Someone mentions that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 athlete (everbody in this forum, including Armstronglivs) knows the exact meaning of this and almost anybody (including Armstronglivs) uses it in exact this way. But he has to come up with: Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 athlete. For sure people will argue now against this nonsense - and another point is destroyed.
Just a few days ago he compares Ingebrigtsen's 800m PB with Coe's. Why? When confronted with the enormous difference in their PBs in longer events he just replys: Coe was a 800m/1500m runner. Also Ingebrigtsen?
There are so many more examples. But continue to shorten your gap to him.
He avoids any concrete question, for example: where do you rank him with all his achievements? He can't answer it, because he doesn't want to tell the truth, that he already is amongst the all-time greats.
Anybody who just tries to fairly discuss his achievements is called a stupid fan boy. I'm not a fan of him and I was really happy when Wightman has beaten him, also when Kerr did the same a year later (this has changed now and I'm routing for Ingebrigtsen against Kerr now). My favourite 1500m currently is Nuguse. But this has nothing to do how I value their achievements.
I lost all the respect which I might have had for you a while ago. But this completely irrelevant comment about your wife was the last step: you can't taken seriously, same like your friend.
Very very few athletes at age 24 have achieved what Ingebrigtsen has (who?). Therefore it's a realistic point of view he might get to the absolute top (his goal). This has absolutely nothing to do with blind fan behavior.
Maybe he will never win another 1500m medal. Maybe he will win the next 3 up to LA. Maybe he will never set another record. Or he will get the 1500m, Mile and 5000m this summer? That's also possible after last year and this winter.
What's the point in ridiculing any failure of him?
Of course Armstronglivs is a subjective poster (we all are). And of course he over does things, and is playing a devils advocate against Jakob. And of course he teases a lot of his opponents, and of course he twists a lot of his words so they can fit his narrative. And even when I have discussed with him he has called my posts flannel, and refused to read them.
But you, and most posters here, refuses to acknowledge that you aren’t any better. -I have been on this forum for many years, and I have discussed with the most serious and knowledgeable posters here, and believe me -they don’t come out better than Armstronglivs. On the contrary: they come out worse in many segments of the debate.
As humans we are all extremely bad at debating. Most of us can maybe open up to be influenced by someone who means pretty much the same that we do ourselves. But even then we aren’t properly seen by others. And debating someone who disagrees with us (as so often in this forum) is a lost case -most come here not to learn or be influenced, but only to present one’s own case…
Armstronglivs obviously reacts on posters that over and over again fill the threads with “thin soup” and don’t at all tolerate different views. So he chooses the wordings and debate form he finds suitable -the more hopeless he finds the opponents the more hopeless debate technique he chooses. Rightly in my view -you can’t change hopelessness with reasoning. But saying that, he also presents a lot of good facts, opinions and points in all the themes that he debates -it is as if he won’t be unreasonable all the time. But of course he doesn’t get any credit for that -he has f.x clearly acknowledged that Jakob is a close to 12.40 (narrowed in to 12.42) man, but his opponents keep on with the 12.48 as if his acknowledgments never were done. And of course he then plays along…
Armstronglivs has a gut feeling that doping is prevalent and that Jakob is a narcissist in a bad way. Well, my own gut feelings is different, but that doesn’t mean that Armstronglivs is wrong. Not at all -I would easily change my view if I see something I don’t see now. -It’s only sport, and I can easily be the one that are wrong. But in the important things I agree with Arms -free speech and the right to different opinions, the right to criticise blind fan boys/girls and also out spoken athletes, none tolerance for dictator wannabe politicians and for abusive fathers/coaches… Maybe I sound like a dot, but it’s only sport, and in art, culture, politics and intimacy between people I have values that are quite firm.
Lastly: You can’t change a poster that irritates you, and that poster can’t change you. So I’m really curious -why on earth are you so angry against this man. -I myself isn’t bothered at all when Armstronglivs posts things I disagree in. First I check out if there’s any nuances in what he writes that are new to me, then I check out if there’s humour or good wording (that it often is) and then if it’s only one of the frequently repetitions. If it’s only the last thing I chuckle and let it go…
PS. And my wife laughing over one of Armstronglivs funny posts -of course I presented the post subjectively; you are right in that. But the point is that she laughed. And I mentioned it because you guys are so serious and laugh so little here. -This is only sport. It’s supposed to be a free place.
No one is reading your thesis, man. You mentioned in the last paragraph that we are to serious yet you posted a 600+ word essay where you basically say nothing. Reminds me of kids trying to get the word count on essays.
No there wasn't. Jakob is the master of excuses. His fans have elevated it to an art form.
Bullsh*t.
What excuses did he make after the biggest loss of his career to date.? This is all I could about his reaction to the Paris 1500m:
“Ingebrigtsen was incredibly humble in defeat, taking to social media to bury the hatchet after failing to make the podium, while rival Kerr improved on his own Tokyo 2021 bronze. Taking to Instagram, the Norwegian wrote: "Well, I guess he did show up after all…," referring to Kerr. Before adding: "Hocker and Nuguse as well. My team always say that 'because you have a big mouth and is the one to beat, you have everything to lose in competitions'. Today, Cole Hocker, Yared Nuguse and Josh Kerr outsmarted me.”
Your obsessive hatred of such a talented runner that frequently races and goes for records and wins is bizarre. He’s arguably the best thing to ever happen to distance running. If he was a Kiwi, you’d be his biggest fan.
No, I wouldn't. He's a windbag. He's shown it time and again and so many posters like you try to reinterpret what he says so he doesn't come across as such a prat. You don't even see that comments he made such as "he did show up after all" are utterly condescending. It looks like a compliment but it isnt. Same with "you are the one to beat and you have everything to lose in competitions". It's bragging, yet again. Actually "the ones to beat" have been Wightman, Kerr, Hocker and Nuguse, since Ingebrigtsen has lost to each in a succession of global 1500 finals.
Yes, he's a talented runner but he's not as great as he and so many of his fans think he is.
Your wife reads many of Armstronglivs' posts regarding Ingebrigtsen? She knows the behaviour of the guy well, right?
Armstronglivs is a notorious liar - a fact. He has lied many times about what he has written before when even he has realised which contratictioning nonsense he has written. He is not capable to get the most easy facts correct - many many examples for this
In all of his thousands (yes, thousands, and yes this is worth mentioning) of posts regarding this single athlete, he has only one intention: to downplay his achievements and his comments (which might be incorrect sometimes, maybe also arrogant)
Someone mentions that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 athlete (everbody in this forum, including Armstronglivs) knows the exact meaning of this and almost anybody (including Armstronglivs) uses it in exact this way. But he has to come up with: Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 athlete. For sure people will argue now against this nonsense - and another point is destroyed.
Just a few days ago he compares Ingebrigtsen's 800m PB with Coe's. Why? When confronted with the enormous difference in their PBs in longer events he just replys: Coe was a 800m/1500m runner. Also Ingebrigtsen?
There are so many more examples. But continue to shorten your gap to him.
He avoids any concrete question, for example: where do you rank him with all his achievements? He can't answer it, because he doesn't want to tell the truth, that he already is amongst the all-time greats.
Anybody who just tries to fairly discuss his achievements is called a stupid fan boy. I'm not a fan of him and I was really happy when Wightman has beaten him, also when Kerr did the same a year later (this has changed now and I'm routing for Ingebrigtsen against Kerr now). My favourite 1500m currently is Nuguse. But this has nothing to do how I value their achievements.
I lost all the respect which I might have had for you a while ago. But this completely irrelevant comment about your wife was the last step: you can't taken seriously, same like your friend.
Very very few athletes at age 24 have achieved what Ingebrigtsen has (who?). Therefore it's a realistic point of view he might get to the absolute top (his goal). This has absolutely nothing to do with blind fan behavior.
Maybe he will never win another 1500m medal. Maybe he will win the next 3 up to LA. Maybe he will never set another record. Or he will get the 1500m, Mile and 5000m this summer? That's also possible after last year and this winter.
What's the point in ridiculing any failure of him?
I'm flattered. I get more attention on an Ingebrigtsen thread than he does.
Your wife reads many of Armstronglivs' posts regarding Ingebrigtsen? She knows the behaviour of the guy well, right?
Armstronglivs is a notorious liar - a fact. He has lied many times about what he has written before when even he has realised which contratictioning nonsense he has written. He is not capable to get the most easy facts correct - many many examples for this
In all of his thousands (yes, thousands, and yes this is worth mentioning) of posts regarding this single athlete, he has only one intention: to downplay his achievements and his comments (which might be incorrect sometimes, maybe also arrogant)
Someone mentions that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 athlete (everbody in this forum, including Armstronglivs) knows the exact meaning of this and almost anybody (including Armstronglivs) uses it in exact this way. But he has to come up with: Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 athlete. For sure people will argue now against this nonsense - and another point is destroyed.
Just a few days ago he compares Ingebrigtsen's 800m PB with Coe's. Why? When confronted with the enormous difference in their PBs in longer events he just replys: Coe was a 800m/1500m runner. Also Ingebrigtsen?
There are so many more examples. But continue to shorten your gap to him.
He avoids any concrete question, for example: where do you rank him with all his achievements? He can't answer it, because he doesn't want to tell the truth, that he already is amongst the all-time greats.
Anybody who just tries to fairly discuss his achievements is called a stupid fan boy. I'm not a fan of him and I was really happy when Wightman has beaten him, also when Kerr did the same a year later (this has changed now and I'm routing for Ingebrigtsen against Kerr now). My favourite 1500m currently is Nuguse. But this has nothing to do how I value their achievements.
I lost all the respect which I might have had for you a while ago. But this completely irrelevant comment about your wife was the last step: you can't taken seriously, same like your friend.
Very very few athletes at age 24 have achieved what Ingebrigtsen has (who?). Therefore it's a realistic point of view he might get to the absolute top (his goal). This has absolutely nothing to do with blind fan behavior.
Maybe he will never win another 1500m medal. Maybe he will win the next 3 up to LA. Maybe he will never set another record. Or he will get the 1500m, Mile and 5000m this summer? That's also possible after last year and this winter.
What's the point in ridiculing any failure of him?
Of course Armstronglivs is a subjective poster (we all are). And of course he over does things, and is playing a devils advocate against Jakob. And of course he teases a lot of his opponents, and of course he twists a lot of his words so they can fit his narrative. And even when I have discussed with him he has called my posts flannel, and refused to read them.
But you, and most posters here, refuses to acknowledge that you aren’t any better. -I have been on this forum for many years, and I have discussed with the most serious and knowledgeable posters here, and believe me -they don’t come out better than Armstronglivs. On the contrary: they come out worse in many segments of the debate.
As humans we are all extremely bad at debating. Most of us can maybe open up to be influenced by someone who means pretty much the same that we do ourselves. But even then we aren’t properly seen by others. And debating someone who disagrees with us (as so often in this forum) is a lost case -most come here not to learn or be influenced, but only to present one’s own case…
Armstronglivs obviously reacts on posters that over and over again fill the threads with “thin soup” and don’t at all tolerate different views. So he chooses the wordings and debate form he finds suitable -the more hopeless he finds the opponents the more hopeless debate technique he chooses. Rightly in my view -you can’t change hopelessness with reasoning. But saying that, he also presents a lot of good facts, opinions and points in all the themes that he debates -it is as if he won’t be unreasonable all the time. But of course he doesn’t get any credit for that -he has f.x clearly acknowledged that Jakob is a close to 12.40 (narrowed in to 12.42) man, but his opponents keep on with the 12.48 as if his acknowledgments never were done. And of course he then plays along…
Armstronglivs has a gut feeling that doping is prevalent and that Jakob is a narcissist in a bad way. Well, my own gut feelings is different, but that doesn’t mean that Armstronglivs is wrong. Not at all -I would easily change my view if I see something I don’t see now. -It’s only sport, and I can easily be the one that are wrong. But in the important things I agree with Arms -free speech and the right to different opinions, the right to criticise blind fan boys/girls and also out spoken athletes, none tolerance for dictator wannabe politicians and for abusive fathers/coaches… Maybe I sound like a dot, but it’s only sport, and in art, culture, politics and intimacy between people I have values that are quite firm.
Lastly: You can’t change a poster that irritates you, and that poster can’t change you. So I’m really curious -why on earth are you so angry against this man. -I myself isn’t bothered at all when Armstronglivs posts things I disagree in. First I check out if there’s any nuances in what he writes that are new to me, then I check out if there’s humour or good wording (that it often is) and then if it’s only one of the frequently repetitions. If it’s only the last thing I chuckle and let it go…
PS. And my wife laughing over one of Armstronglivs funny posts -of course I presented the post subjectively; you are right in that. But the point is that she laughed. And I mentioned it because you guys are so serious and laugh so little here. -This is only sport. It’s supposed to be a free place.
Your wife clearly has a sense of humour. That is something largely absent here.
Of course Armstronglivs is a subjective poster (we all are). And of course he over does things, and is playing a devils advocate against Jakob. And of course he teases a lot of his opponents, and of course he twists a lot of his words so they can fit his narrative. And even when I have discussed with him he has called my posts flannel, and refused to read them.
But you, and most posters here, refuses to acknowledge that you aren’t any better. -I have been on this forum for many years, and I have discussed with the most serious and knowledgeable posters here, and believe me -they don’t come out better than Armstronglivs. On the contrary: they come out worse in many segments of the debate.
As humans we are all extremely bad at debating. Most of us can maybe open up to be influenced by someone who means pretty much the same that we do ourselves. But even then we aren’t properly seen by others. And debating someone who disagrees with us (as so often in this forum) is a lost case -most come here not to learn or be influenced, but only to present one’s own case…
Armstronglivs obviously reacts on posters that over and over again fill the threads with “thin soup” and don’t at all tolerate different views. So he chooses the wordings and debate form he finds suitable -the more hopeless he finds the opponents the more hopeless debate technique he chooses. Rightly in my view -you can’t change hopelessness with reasoning. But saying that, he also presents a lot of good facts, opinions and points in all the themes that he debates -it is as if he won’t be unreasonable all the time. But of course he doesn’t get any credit for that -he has f.x clearly acknowledged that Jakob is a close to 12.40 (narrowed in to 12.42) man, but his opponents keep on with the 12.48 as if his acknowledgments never were done. And of course he then plays along…
Armstronglivs has a gut feeling that doping is prevalent and that Jakob is a narcissist in a bad way. Well, my own gut feelings is different, but that doesn’t mean that Armstronglivs is wrong. Not at all -I would easily change my view if I see something I don’t see now. -It’s only sport, and I can easily be the one that are wrong. But in the important things I agree with Arms -free speech and the right to different opinions, the right to criticise blind fan boys/girls and also out spoken athletes, none tolerance for dictator wannabe politicians and for abusive fathers/coaches… Maybe I sound like a dot, but it’s only sport, and in art, culture, politics and intimacy between people I have values that are quite firm.
Lastly: You can’t change a poster that irritates you, and that poster can’t change you. So I’m really curious -why on earth are you so angry against this man. -I myself isn’t bothered at all when Armstronglivs posts things I disagree in. First I check out if there’s any nuances in what he writes that are new to me, then I check out if there’s humour or good wording (that it often is) and then if it’s only one of the frequently repetitions. If it’s only the last thing I chuckle and let it go…
PS. And my wife laughing over one of Armstronglivs funny posts -of course I presented the post subjectively; you are right in that. But the point is that she laughed. And I mentioned it because you guys are so serious and laugh so little here. -This is only sport. It’s supposed to be a free place.
Name me any Ingebrigtsen thread of the last two years where Army has posted a lot (he might have in any), name me a single page in this thread where he has at least 5 posts: I bet I can name you mistakes , contradictions, lies, belitteling of others of him and so on. It's in almost any of his posts regarding Ingebrigtsen (and pretty sure in all of his posts - he is in a "fight" with almost anybody).
He just comes here to "educate" the posters who don't share his view about Ingebrigtsen (something he always criticises on others, that they can't accept other opinions). The opposite is true. He can't accept other views. Even when those "views" are facts. He often even denies facts when he doesn't like them - many examples for this.
He presents some good facts? Are you fu%&$g serious? He is wrong with almost any number he presents - sorry, but he is too stupid to bring correct numbers (when he learned that Ingebrigtsen is no. 20 all-time in the 5000m (he can't find this stat by himself - he just can't) he mentions it again and again, also that there are 20 others besides Cheptegei who are faster than him. This wrong number is completely irrelevant, yes, but it illustrates that he is too stupid to directly see such things (or: over 5 years since his Olympic 1500m Gold). And even worse: he has no interest to bring correct facts.
In all his thousands (yes, dude, this is relevant) of posts regarding Ingebrigtsen he has contributed absolutely nothing to Ingebrigtsen's running career (but hundreds of times the same stuff like 12:48, lost 3 finals in a row, had to stop after a 10k NR and so on). Nothing of interest like intermediate times, win/loss records, historical comparisons and so on. Nothing (maybe he has sometimes a point about Ingebrigtsen/family interviews)
Just negativity. What a bad athlete Ingebrigtsen is because of his average 800m PB (bad in middle distance running). What a bad athlete Ingebrigtsen is because of not having good results longer than 5000m (bad in long distance running, no comparison to 5000m/10000m guys like Geb). What an unbelievable nonsense when we all can see how good he is from 1500m to 5000m (and probably in longer events in the future). What a laughable point if he IS a middle distance runner or a long distance runner.
Armstrong's only ambition is to make trouble, he has no interest to seriously discuss anything (which includes to accept when someone has shown he was wrong on something). He can't. And he never will.
I just can laugh about your stupid comments regarding him.
It took a while for you to say it but you do have a lot of difficulty with opinions you don't agree with. There are quite a few of you.
He's always paid to turn up; he's a professional athlete. Vanity is the more likely explanation.
Fisher wasn't drawing attention to himself, running outside his distance, like the Norwegian narcissist was.
lol
The most narcissistic poster on LR calling anyone else a narcissist. Armstronglivs truly is screaming for attention, his posts truly are the only time he engages with human beings other then the staff at his current abode, a nursing home.
You prove everything justanothercuriousdude says about guys like you. Yet you are so unaware of it.
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You probably said the same before Jakob broke world records and became Olympic Champion last year. You never learn.
Yes, but Jakob said pre Silesia that he wouldn’t do 7.18 or better “in this century”. -Guess he never learns either (but only you sitting with the result afterwards)!
Jakob states an ambitious goal and fails, you criticize him for his ego. Jakob exceeds his expectations and you criticize him as well. You and your mate Livs are only looking for way to criticize him.
Your wife reads many of Armstronglivs' posts regarding Ingebrigtsen? She knows the behaviour of the guy well, right?
Armstronglivs is a notorious liar - a fact. He has lied many times about what he has written before when even he has realised which contratictioning nonsense he has written. He is not capable to get the most easy facts correct - many many examples for this
In all of his thousands (yes, thousands, and yes this is worth mentioning) of posts regarding this single athlete, he has only one intention: to downplay his achievements and his comments (which might be incorrect sometimes, maybe also arrogant)
Someone mentions that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 athlete (everbody in this forum, including Armstronglivs) knows the exact meaning of this and almost anybody (including Armstronglivs) uses it in exact this way. But he has to come up with: Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 athlete. For sure people will argue now against this nonsense - and another point is destroyed.
Just a few days ago he compares Ingebrigtsen's 800m PB with Coe's. Why? When confronted with the enormous difference in their PBs in longer events he just replys: Coe was a 800m/1500m runner. Also Ingebrigtsen?
There are so many more examples. But continue to shorten your gap to him.
He avoids any concrete question, for example: where do you rank him with all his achievements? He can't answer it, because he doesn't want to tell the truth, that he already is amongst the all-time greats.
Anybody who just tries to fairly discuss his achievements is called a stupid fan boy. I'm not a fan of him and I was really happy when Wightman has beaten him, also when Kerr did the same a year later (this has changed now and I'm routing for Ingebrigtsen against Kerr now). My favourite 1500m currently is Nuguse. But this has nothing to do how I value their achievements.
I lost all the respect which I might have had for you a while ago. But this completely irrelevant comment about your wife was the last step: you can't taken seriously, same like your friend.
Very very few athletes at age 24 have achieved what Ingebrigtsen has (who?). Therefore it's a realistic point of view he might get to the absolute top (his goal). This has absolutely nothing to do with blind fan behavior.
Maybe he will never win another 1500m medal. Maybe he will win the next 3 up to LA. Maybe he will never set another record. Or he will get the 1500m, Mile and 5000m this summer? That's also possible after last year and this winter.
What's the point in ridiculing any failure of him?
I'm flattered. I get more attention on an Ingebrigtsen thread than he does.
No one is reading your thesis, man. You mentioned in the last paragraph that we are to serious yet you posted a 600+ word essay where you basically say nothing. Reminds me of kids trying to get the word count on essays.
I don’t care if nobody is reading my thesis. -I apparently like now and then to present it anyway. And I’m perfectly aware that most here like to post their restricted opinions over and over again to get some upvotes from their peers.
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