I mean, “allowed to have” is not an issue. He is a grown adult and can smoke cigarettes, and drink windshield wiper fluid.
From the perspective of his career, his food choices want to 1.) get the job done nutritionally, and 2.) not chance any med issues that would disrupt training.
Random example: You don’t want leaky gut, and you don’t want autoimmune disease. (Crohn’s or IBS would not be helpful in training.)
So, if industrial fructose promotes leaky gut (higher risk of autoimmune), or if free glutamates (malt flavor, etc.) raise risk, then are there any equally good recovery foods that do not have these things?
Even homemade rice krispie treats do not have industrial fructose or free glutamates, for what it’s worth.
The only thing I am saying, is that if there are substances that increase risk of a problem that interrupts training, some athletes would choose to eat these as rarely as possible, while others would throw caution to the wind.
Recovery foods might be intentionally free of fiber, but the diet as a whole should promote healthy gut, among other things, EVEN if the only goal is to get to retire in six years and eat like crap.
Okay, so maybe my wording wasn't precise enough.
What is the number of Rice Krispies Treats, fruit snacks, and amount of lemonade that he could ingest that wouldn't harm his training?
Indeed, leaky gut is a very random example. What are the chances he develops that?
You are correct that the diet as a whole is what we should be focused on, and it seems like some people think that he's only eating Rice Krispies and drinking lemonade. What do you think he's eating outside of post-workout calories?
I'm curious about what doctors and dieticians these folks follow on social media or listen to on podcasts. I've come across a few talking about leaky gut. Many of them have all of nothing approaches that are tend towards fear-mongering and use science to their benefit versus looking at practical approaches to nutrition and improving health outcomes.
So much ignorance here. The worst part is guys like you just parade your ignorance.
I get it, though.
There are foods that we ate freely in the 70s and 80s, like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and nobody called child protective services on your parents.
Now, it’s “oh, the hydrogenated oils” and “oh, the aflatoxins”, and people are really grouchy about that.
People want to believe that the foods we grew up on are OK. We ate twinkies and happy meals and stuff with artificial dyes, and it all seemed perfectly harmless.
I grew up in a household that didn't allow me to eat any processed foods, and I left that household with a complicated relationship with food. AND a brain tumor in my mid-twenties. It's not always the food we eat.
Just let Hobbs do his thing. Not that he cares about us folks on the Internet.
Some of you have really weird relationships to food and it shows. You think consuming anything considered "junk food" or "desert" is some kind of moral failing. The Hobbs story really triggered you because here's this ascending superstar in the sport who fuels his recovery with foods you think are decadent. If he's right, then it collapses this strange puritanical philosophy you have on training and diet.
Getting enough fuel in the body is the goal. Keeping the body "pure" is a fools errand.
I grew up in a household that didn't allow me to eat any processed foods, and I left that household with a complicated relationship with food. AND a brain tumor in my mid-twenties. It's not always the food we eat.
Just let Hobbs do his thing. Not that he cares about us folks on the Internet.
Oh my god, they should’ve sent me home with your no-processed-foods parents (i would’ve thrived) and you could’ve gone home with my mainstream parents. (but jesus christ, on the brain tumor in mid-twenties!)
Just for fun, a tupid, embarrassing story from my childhood:
my parents once turned on the cassette recorder for fun, while we were having pizza for dinner. (I was in pre-school and my brother was in kindergarten.) You hear my brother sing the bat-man song into the recorder, and then my mom calls my name, and says “Where ARE you?” And I shouted back, sitting constipated on the potty, in total distress, “I can’t get it OUT!”
So, I have no recollection of this, and when we found the cassette again when I was a teen, everyone thought it was HILARIOUS, which, it kinda was.
But thinking back, no wonder I was a constipated 4-year-old. We ate cereal with milk for breakfast, pbj for lunch and pizza for dinner.
I also had chronic skin problems when I was a young kid.
I think people who eat a mainstream, highly processed diet, think constipation is just normal.
Anyways, Hobbs can definitely do his thing! Got no need to force my neurotic no-processed-foods ways on him.
I'm curious about what doctors and dieticians these folks follow on social media or listen to on podcasts. I've come across a few talking about leaky gut. Many of them have all of nothing approaches that are tend towards fear-mongering and use science to their benefit versus looking at practical approaches to nutrition and improving health outcomes.
If you really wanna know, I’m sure I could rattle off five or six of the doctors and podcasters that influence people to turn against hydrogenated oils and industrial fructose.
then again, if you are just saying that as a turn of phrase (what morons are these people listening to, for gods sake!), then so be it.
Meh. It's not like he said that's all he was eating. Fueling with lemonade during workouts is no different than fueling with whatever sugary drink mix Maurten is hocking these days.
Other athletes (Clayton Young comes to mind) have expressed that they try to get carbs in immediately after a workout, and if a snickers bar is all that is handy, they'll have the snickers bar because it's better than not recovering or underfueling. The RKTs he mentioned were from Costco have 90 calories each; he's probably eating ~4000 calories a day so if this relatively tiny amount of junk helps him get in enough carbs and calories, idk why some on this board are so disturbed by it.
The body needs complex carbohydrates and glycogen immediately after strenuous activity. The OP needs a basic understanding of science.
My view on this is that the best way to have carbs and protein available to your body for regeneration immediately after exercise is to snack before you exercise.
I grew up in a household that didn't allow me to eat any processed foods, and I left that household with a complicated relationship with food. AND a brain tumor in my mid-twenties. It's not always the food we eat.
Just let Hobbs do his thing. Not that he cares about us folks on the Internet.
Oh my god, they should’ve sent me home with your no-processed-foods parents (i would’ve thrived) and you could’ve gone home with my mainstream parents. (but jesus christ, on the brain tumor in mid-twenties!)
Just for fun, a tupid, embarrassing story from my childhood:
my parents once turned on the cassette recorder for fun, while we were having pizza for dinner. (I was in pre-school and my brother was in kindergarten.) You hear my brother sing the bat-man song into the recorder, and then my mom calls my name, and says “Where ARE you?” And I shouted back, sitting constipated on the potty, in total distress, “I can’t get it OUT!”
So, I have no recollection of this, and when we found the cassette again when I was a teen, everyone thought it was HILARIOUS, which, it kinda was.
But thinking back, no wonder I was a constipated 4-year-old. We ate cereal with milk for breakfast, pbj for lunch and pizza for dinner.
I also had chronic skin problems when I was a young kid.
I think people who eat a mainstream, highly processed diet, think constipation is just normal.
Anyways, Hobbs can definitely do his thing! Got no need to force my neurotic no-processed-foods ways on him.
Well, I wouldn't say I eat like the 'mainstream' and it's pretty rare I have constipation! Thankfully!!!
Feeding kids is really hard. Sometimes processed foods are necessary.
Curious, how do you fuel your training? Do you just eat a lot of dates and bananas? I personally love dates before a hard workout or race...but there's only so many dates I can eat.
Well, I wouldn't say I eat like the 'mainstream' and it's pretty rare I have constipation! Thankfully!!!
Feeding kids is really hard. Sometimes processed foods are necessary.
Curious, how do you fuel your training? Do you just eat a lot of dates and bananas? I personally love dates before a hard workout or race...but there's only so many dates I can eat.
On a purely theoretical level (as I am definitely NOT a competitive runner!), i would think eating non- or moderately-processed fruit prior to running as well as after running, would be smart and effective. Hydration and nutrition all in one package. Blending acceptable.
Being just naturally supernerdy, I have always wondered why top-level athletes do not prioritize alkalizing foods, especially prior to running. I mean, the science of bicarbonate helping with athletic performance is about it buffering pH of the blood. Alkalizing foods (fruits and vegetables) are all about creating a less acidic environment in the body also.
Everyone says that alkalizing foods for athletic performance is not proven and there is no body of evidence supporting it, but I would love to dig around in scholarly literature and see if this is true.
I can understand why hobbs kessler level athletes are not blowing a lot of time, effort and money freezing data-banana-cantaloupe smoothies for post-workout. They like what they know and they like what is comfortable. So they eat uber-processed foods and call it good enough.
But yeah, I personally do eat a lot of simple sugars (in the form of fruit) before and after running because it feels good to be hydrated/re-hydrated, and every human loves the sweetness of fruit.
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