I suspect the drafting helped a lot more than the bicarb. He was close behind the lead car for most of it.
Every WR has a lead car anyway. That doesn’t explain anything. His legs still need to do the running. Can’t be bicarb either as the HM is nor really a lactic acidosis event and more aerobic. If you want to mention drugs it’s more likely EPO for aerobicity rather than anaerobicity. It’s just true blue East African genetic talent and low radio frequency exposure in Kapchorwa. Cheptegei’s butler mentioned that mobile phones are banned property at training camps since fall of 2024. Somebody tipped them off probably from letsrun
If you still use the term "lactic acidosis" or believe that a world elite half marathon is run BELOW the LT, then you need to pick up a physiology text and start reading.
I honestly don’t know if you’re kidding, have never run, or see stupid.
In the mid 1990s my guys didn’t train much over the summer and most didn’t do much over the winter. The thought process then was you didn’t want to get injured or burn out in the offseason. My kids worked real jobs back then too.
During the season they would run 15-30mpw… depending on our dual meet schedule, if the kids trained or didn’t train over the weekend, etc. 4 miles was our standard run. I had my guys crush 200s and 400s. You’ll say I was a bad coach. Maybe. But so was everyone.
After Ritz, Webb, Hall we started to do a bit more mileage. 30s-40s for our more seasoned runners. But still all v02 max and sprint work. And a lot of racing.
It was really about 5 or 6 years ago that we shifted our focus completely to more tempo and threshold work. Now my progression for my athletes are 20-30, 30-40, 40-50, 50-55 freshman through senior year. We also encourage our athletes to train over the summer, have very few dual meets (and when we do we train through them).
90% of my juniors and seniors have a super flat to run workouts in.
I’ve been around talent a long time. 100% my 4:20 guy in 1995 training this way would run 4:10. I have 0 doubt about it.
This whole conversation is silly, though. The 100th best time in the country, say, today is equivalent to the 100th best time 10y, 20y, 30y ago. We haven’t evolved as a species during that span and participation levels are roughly the same. So what is your rationale, buddy?
Sad that every time someone breaks a world record all we hear about is doping. Definitely sometimes justified but running and cycling are the only sports that react like this. Can't we just pretend for a while that he really did run one of the greatest races in history?
He was way too close to the car—only 2–3 strides behind for large portions of the race. At that speed, the aerodynamic benefit alone could easily account for 1.5 seconds per mile. The car was significantly closer and had a much greater impact than in Kipchoge’s sub-2-hour marathon attempt. Most likely, this is an illegal record, as the pace car likely contributed at least a 30-second advantage..
if this is true, this record will stand for a very long time.
drafting a car is much much more than 2 seconds a mile at 15 mph ish.
and the distance needs to be remeasured.
while this may prove to be an all time great record.
the beamon jump was 5.0m / sec windy on the moon.
and flo jo was super windy
with the momentum of the belief of the average casual fan, these records indeed became major hallstones in these poeple's careers.
such is the nature of the world, where quality of analysis and decisions is well below optima.
Kiplimo is not done. Since the ban of smartphones in Kapchorwa’s training camp on the fall of 2024 due to a secret tip off on letsrun, 56:41 is just the beginning of that newfound energy. He is not done, you can’t wait it enough because his ceiling is now 55:50. Give it 12 more months. He is still young and this is what low radio frequency zones do to your max ceiling.
Maybe one of the three greatest non-championship distance running performances of all time. In full flow, Kiplimo looked even more powerful, his stride lengthier and smoother, the past hint of choppiness gone. If he holds form form through Tokyo and into Tallahasse, he won't lose to anyone.
He was way too close to the car—only 2–3 strides behind for large portions of the race. At that speed, the aerodynamic benefit alone could easily account for 1.5 seconds per mile. The car was significantly closer and had a much greater impact than in Kipchoge’s sub-2-hour marathon attempt. Most likely, this is an illegal record, as the pace car likely contributed at least a 30-second advantage..
I feel like this may end up being like the Flo-Jo record. One that is simply not within reach because of an external factor. In that case it was a missed wind reading, here there may be some shenanigans with the draft from the car. Kiplimo is obviously capable of beating the WR on his own, as was Flo-Jo, but the margins here are beyond belief.
I was wondering about that. The drafting is huge. If he was really just 1-2 seconds off the bumper of that car (with its clock and cameras), then it was part of the equation.
Maybe we have to treat this run the way we treated Kipchoge's sub-2. It is AMAZING but not suitable for ratification?
I am sure that there is a rule about drafting off vehicles somewhere. Read the rules. If there was no violation here, then we will start to see lead cars doing this all the time.
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