Shelby Houlihan back training at Nike “Restrictions end Thursday”

Hi Shelby ^

Intent certainly does matter, in the case that someone spiked her food or drink.

Also there should be some concrete proof that eating a burrito enhances performance in any unnatural way that's related to toxic chemicals.

Personally I doubt that it is.

I am honored that you think I can run that fast at my age.

You said it, not me.

Not exactly someone I would take at her word. Now famous for half-truths.

She probably said something like "Nike no longer pays me for my running performances."

This says nothing of the sort.

It doesn't even mention Nike, or income at all.🤣

What are you even talking about??

What am I talking about?

2 things:

1) Shelburrito said Nike stopped paying her (see for example the "clicking here" link right at the top of the gofundme scam).

2) That that is somewhat irrelevant, considering all her other nonsense (for example "It is the athlete's burden to figure out the source and prove their innocence beyond a reasonable doubt" and "Over the next 4 months, the AIU refused to communicate or provide any updates, progress, or status of her case" in her gofundme scam).

So - asking her again won't bring us any closer to the truth.

1. Can you please share her wording on this? I can't see it. Based on her track record I expect it to be full of half-truths at best.

2.a. I am not suggesting that journalists ask her. I agree she will be deceptive.

2.b. I am suggesting that journalists ask the employer that she immediately started again with after her ban.

No other sponsor was going to recruit Houlihan during her ban. They wouldn’t have known if she was even going to make a comeback.

What makes you think Nike wants Shelby? If I was them, I would be more than a little miffed that she got herself banned. What if it happened again?

My best friend was busted as a pro cyclist for EPO. He made up all the same lies. He was 100% guilty.

She's a fraud. It's the same song.

Best friend?

Interesting. Did your friend share his secret with you before getting busted?

Amazing when you dope you are allowed to to continue doping while you prepare for your home Olympics, all testing is in place to ensure the EPO, growth hormone and testosterone are within limits

Not just "intent" but also "doping". The substance in her body may or may not be "doping", which may or may not be "intentional".

Note the nature of the direct question is not how weak the burrito case is, but how strong the intentional doping case is. This question cannot answered by poking holes in pigs, but by establishing with specific and concrete elements the likelihood that a US elite athlete would order a well known and easily detectable in the smallest quantities steroid and intentionally ingest it, and then agree to a test 10 hours later. It's possible but highly unlikely.

Furthermore, the interest in "intent" is not just mine. Many posters want to condemn her as an intentional cheater. The appropriate level of condemnation is attached to this question of "intent", so it seems highly relevant to make a strong case for it.

Recall she was busted for "presence" and "use", both of which explicitly do not consider "intent". Subsequently, without any facts or findings, "intent" is presumed, and the athlete bears the burden of establishing with "specific and concrete elements" what the most likely source was, as a proxy for non-intent.

This burden is most difficult for innocent athletes who do not know the source, and the burden is only made worse when only put on notice 1 month after the fact, when many of the possible sources cannot be tested because they were long ago consumed or discarded.

I cannot bring myself to condemn someone merely because a contract presumes by default that all athletes intentionally dope.

Oh sorry - the clearshelby link seems to be dead atm. But that Nike stopped paying her was all over the news in 2021 and 2022. For example:

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2022/05/shelby-houlihan-on-burrito-defense-i-dont-know-with-100-percent-certainty-that-thats-where-it-came-from/

"Houlihan also revealed Nike is no longer supporting her financially"

cronkitenews.azpbs.org

David Veenstra

Julia Thompson

David Veenstra expects to graduate in August 2022 with a master’s degree in sports journalism. Veenstra has covered ASU track and field for Inferno Intel.

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"Houlihan is no longer a member of BTC nor being paid by Nike. She spent $250,000 in legal fees fighting her ban without any financial support from the Beaverton-based shoe and apparel giant.

“They said that they support me, and they believe in me, but as far as financially, I haven’t really received any support from them in that way,” Houlihan said.
Houlihan lost her six-figure professional contract with Nike and hasn’t had a paycheck in over a year."

"Houlihan said Nike hasn’t offered her a job, either. “I’ve been doing some food delivery things like DoorDash and stuff, just to try to make a little money on the side, but yeah, just trying to get by.”"

And Nike was asked about that but didn't answer. For example:

runnersworld.com

Shelby Houlihan Loses Appeal of Doping Ban

The American record holder will not be eligible to compete again until January 2025.

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"Houlihan is thought to have lost her sponsorship from Nike. Nike did not immediately return an email from Runner’s World seeking clarification of her sponsorship status."

If she had admitted to the obvious doping her suspension would have been less. I'm not sure her lying about the violation should gain her more sympathy.

They fixate on intent, because they know that as long as she keeps claiming innocence, intent can never be proved.

notice how Shelby shifted after the press conference from doper to "intentional doper".

Did Shelby keep a diary? Is she writing all her intentions down? no, but that doesn't make her less of a doper.

proving intent is not what it's about. Shelby is pushing this because she knows if anti doping agencies had this burden they'd never get anything done.

Made this up.

I know that Houlihan made that claim, but the offer is illogical. Are all those busted Kenyans offered the same deal? If a busted athlete actually did not intentionally cheat, but didn’t have evidence to prove it, should they lie to receive the reduction?

By going to CAS, Houlihan was attempting to have the ban overturned. She didn’t want to miss the Tokyo Olympics.