Katelyn Tuohy is back folks!!!!! Wins Sunset Tour 5k in 15:07!!!

Touhy injury history? Only injured twice, between hs and college and now between college and pro start. She completed every season in hs and college, really quite durable.

Now why didn’t you just take your L and move on, uncle?

Do we really need to start reminding you who is actually on the Nick Bare chemistry, for every time you keep popping off?

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Is that what you want? Will that make you feel better?

Tuohy was also injured in her freshman year.

People tend to overstate Valby’s injury history. She had the stress fractures, and didn’t lose much time, and some unexplainable “nerve” thing in her leg. The first I would chalk up to too much too soon, and the 2nd is likely just a freak occurrence that she battled through, and still managed to limp her way to an NCAA title in the 5000M. Ever since, she’s been tearing it up, while Tuohy had been sidelined for something like 7-8 months. Even prior to that, she was having issues, most likely due to overtraining and/or too much racing.

Lame.

Tuohy has also been at a high level since 7th grade. That is rare.

Touhy freshman injury was just the rehab from summer surgery re: hs injury. Duë covid she participated in all 3 freshman seasons. Xc nats, indoor, outdoor.

Valby is the ultimate casé study. Injured a ton early at Florida, she settled on the cross training program to stat healthy. Since then also very durable. Of course pundits now want her to up her mileage. I'd stay with whats working and just looks for continued improvement.

Valby has somehow been able to recover from her injuries quickly, and be competitive because of her cross training. Perhaps people should seek to learn more about what she’s doing, rather than mock it.

Nine days of running in 4-5 months, yet managed a 15:20 and NCAA runner up. I’ve never seen anyone else pull that off. Most probably would have skipped the race.

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It is what Taylor Roe was referring to, Valby's magical ability to regain fitness after injury. Now cynical types would question it, but not me. Loll.

I have a pretty good idea of exactly what she is doing. The boatd is just in its default mode.

She didn't regain fitness, because she never lost it. Being on the elliptical hard instead of doing nothing meant she was not coming back from 0.

What incredible short memory people have here. Anyone following the NCAA scene knows that Valby has been perpetually on the injured list while at Florida and has only been relatively healthy during the last 18 months, when as I understand it, she’s gradually increased her MPW levels, while reducing the cross training component. I understand she’s also an accomplished swimmer so I assume this helped fill her mix of training, along with work on the elliptical. Similarly, Tuohy was heavily cross-training with work on the bike and elliptical during the early days of recovery. Looks to me that both spend considerable time in the gym with work with weights, among the mix. But Tuohy’s recovery only yielded significant results on the track when she was able to add running MPW over the last 3 months. This is true for both as is evident. Independent of gym and cross training the one component that yields the best results in improving PR’s is running consistently.

Tuohy has been relatively healthy with two periods of injury/recovery. The first recovering from knee surgery at the end of her HS career, leading into the early part of her freshman college period and the last 8 months (5 of which she couldn’t run due to injury). Her last 3 months have yielded a steep improvement to bring her back to roughly where she was a year ago. As she continues her recovery over the next few weeks/months she’s likely to resume her progression, which would otherwise have been in the 14:40/14:50 range at this point. She peaked during last winter/indoor season when she set NCAA records in the 3K and mile distances, where she beat at least 2 elite runners (Cranny and Henes) on the way to setting her 8:35 3K record. Arguably, this record translates to a sub 15 for most distance runners, but this wasn’t tested during that period. Ironically, the spring of ‘23 was the start of Valby’s post injury recovery period.

Injuries and recoveries plague every elite runner so we shouldn’t be surprised when it happens to the most talented among us. How fast recovery occurs is an individual case as well as how much MPW factors in. The difference here is that KT has been at the top of her age group since 7th grade. Valby never achieved this level in HS when she wasn’t as interested in running as swimming. Time will tell how these two competitors develop as professionals. My bet is with the one that developed in JHS/HS and carried it successfully through college, though time will tell.

The past 15 months.

1500 prelim NCAA

1500 final NCAA

5000 NCAA

NCAA XC

No racing for 6 months

USATF trial and final

Then she runs 15:0x. That is an awful lot of terrible finishes and no shows for a healthy 15:00 runner.

She had one bad race, 1500 final and had the 24 hour flu in the XC final. That’s not a bad record. Btw, her XC race, while sick and dehydrated, was good enough (5th) to win her team the National Championships! Not bad at all. I would gladly stack that record against Valby’s many disappointing finishes against Tuohy. Short memories…as I said.

How many mpw has Tuohy typically logged when healthy? Anyone know?

Valby strikes me as someone who likes to troll her critics, so I’m skeptical that we’ve gotten the full picture, post-injuries.

What about the 5000?

What about 6 months?

What about the Usatf? Seems like you are saying that she was a dore sport not starting the 5k. And then her Usatf finish was her best? I guess she just sort of sucks sometimes. And her XC finish she was sick? That was part of the story of all of these poor performances. You confirmed it. She is either sick or injured. I think she should be checked for an eating disorder.

Yeah, Valby couldn’t beat her for a long time, until last Fall. She was always the underdog, which she was able to use as motivation. Now, she’s beaten her 3x in a row. Those last two XC races most likely caused some emotional scarring for Tuohy, which she still may not be 100% recovered from.

Highly doubtful. She has been under the microscope for a long time.

I don't care about Tuohy. She isn't running world championship level times at 16 and she hasn't been setting record after record on the amount of running training a 12 year old would do.

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