There's another word for that, but it can't be that, so it has to be this.
Yeah, he looks like a guy who comes from one of the worst doping nations on the planet. And he is.
According to you, everyone from English speaking countries is "clean" - because they "look clean" and everyone from non English speaking countries is "dirty" - because they "look dirty" - and have a history of being "dirty" not "clean."
Of course we're not talking about racism or bigotry here, but extremely high level scientific tests based on "how people look" and/or "what country they're from."
Not saying Sedjati (or any of the current 800m guys) are clean, just saying their times aren't as impressive when you account for 'the shoes.' Probably quickens 1-1.5 seconds to their times.
To me, the current crop is really just equivalent to the high 1:42/low 1:43 times of yesteryear.
I wonder about that. How fast do you believe jakob's 3.26.7,and also faith kipyagon's 3.49,and jess hull's 3.50.8 would have been in a 90s equivelent? no fast shoes,and older tracks.
Wanna know? Let me tell ya bruh!!!
Jakob's 3:26;7 would be worth 3:30-3:31 in 1998's circumstances.
Faith 3:49 would be worth 3:55 in 1998's circumstances
Yeah, he looks like a guy who comes from one of the worst doping nations on the planet. And he is.
According to you, everyone from English speaking countries is "clean" - because they "look clean" and everyone from non English speaking countries is "dirty" - because they "look dirty" - and have a history of being "dirty" not "clean."
Of course we're not talking about racism or bigotry here, but extremely high level scientific tests based on "how people look" and/or "what country they're from."
Yes something like that, except English speaking countries like America have their own set of dopers like Cole H and Grant F, 2 obvious PED studs right there.
I don't know about GB that well, but Mo Farah from history is another PED stud. There should be more from GB but I tend to find GB persons slightly more morally conservative and governed by stricter ethics and moral values than Americans. But of course GB can be as corrupt as America there is no doubt about that!
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The spiritually discerning may only be able to comprehend what is actually happening but its happening....
Repent or die if you are still human.
Amen darling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For sure man, the truth is that the sport is very corrupt to the core with PED abuse left right center top and down, Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is the 800m suddenly so much faster in 2024 as compared to 2023, 2022, 2021 where supershoes were also being used????? Something other than supershoes seems to factor in 2024 now than in 2023, 2022, 2021 and it can only be PEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i know a doper when i see one. bro's body language looked like the russian women in the 80s just blasting out of a cannon in full sprint with no muscle fatigue in the homestretch of a 400 / 800. super obvious.
I usually give the benefit of the doubt but that last 100 yesterday was something I've never seen anyone finish an 800 like that. The lactic acid building up that last 200 meters will cause even the best to be straining. I'm very suspicious.
Amen to that sir, yes Sedjati is a serious doping threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can we please stop pretending that this is real? It’s absolutely ridiculous. Sedjati is completely obvious, but a random Spanish guy running 1:42? It’s robbery, and I feel extremely bad for Arop. Add the random Kenyan out of the blue with his 6 second pb last week, and it’s farcical.
It's been a fraud for sometime. I have been saying on the site for at least a decade and a half that in order to clean up the sport to stop these, "came from nowhere with a 5 second pb this season" type athletes that when they suddenly start testing them they stop improving or disappear, is to have a requirement that you have to submit, at your own expense, for 10 or so OOC tests in the previous year to be eligible for the pro circuit and have your times count. Of these 10 most have to be in blood. It will be very easy to quickly look for changes in the blood passport. Just look at the Rhonex example they suspected he was doping back in 2018 but only in 2024 was he banned.
Me too sir, I have been also saying it's been a fraud everywhere for sometime, just like Armstrong my man. We both have been clamoring for change with WADA who doesn't seem to give a sh*t and been quite farcical themselves and not doing really enough at all!!!
Yes blood is better than urine. Blood history can't be faked.
It's not just the time. It's the way he runs the time. Effortlessly. It shouldn't be easy to run sub-1:42.
Triple AMEN to that sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally with you on that!!!!!!!!!!
I remembered even David Rudisha's first forays into sub 1:42 that he was shown strain in the last 50m and fighting hard not to decelerate, same for a clean Nigel Amos in 2012.
I am loathe to accuse people of doping but a guy casually running under 1:42 with a killer kick at the end of it rather than perfect pacing like historical sub-1:42 races just seems way too good to be true.
Agreed and amen to that sir. You know your stuff very well, just like me!!!!
1:41 races are historically ran with very fine pacing margins with no room for error. Slightly too fast the first lap and you die in the 2nd lap, while slightly too slow and you miss the record by a bit. Nobody runs a 1:41 race with a slow 600m and kicking it hard in the final 200m!!!!
Nope, not 3:29, that's not accurate enough for me. It would be 3:31 and no faster!!!! The whites of those era were running no faster than 3:30-3:31. Only the North Africans and East Africans will have access to the sub 3:30 region.
However even if Jakob were to be able to run 3:29 in 1995, still it would be one-off and never to be repeated again. His body would break down far too easily and he could never run anywhere close to 3:30 again.
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Nope, not 3:29, that's not accurate enough for me. It would be 3:31 and no faster!!!! The whites of those era were running no faster than 3:30-3:31. Only the North Africans and East Africans will have access to the sub 3:30 region.
However even if Jakob were to be able to run 3:29 in 1995, still it would be one-off and never to be repeated again. His body would break down far too easily and he could never run anywhere close to 3:30 again.
What? Are you admitting Jakob is clean and the 90's Africans were dirty? What would the top Africans have run in the 90's with the ABP and EPO and HGH tests of today?
No Moroccan has run faster than 3:31.95 in the last five years (best is 3:34.44 this year), so does this mean that this is what El G would be running today in super shoes?
According to you, everyone from English speaking countries is "clean" - because they "look clean" and everyone from non English speaking countries is "dirty" - because they "look dirty" - and have a history of being "dirty" not "clean."
Of course we're not talking about racism or bigotry here, but extremely high level scientific tests based on "how people look" and/or "what country they're from."
Yes something like that, except English speaking countries like America have their own set of dopers like Cole H and Grant F, 2 obvious PED studs right there.
I don't know about GB that well, but Mo Farah from history is another PED stud. There should be more from GB but I tend to find GB persons slightly more morally conservative and governed by stricter ethics and moral values than Americans. But of course GB can be as corrupt as America there is no doubt about that!
National prestige supersedes whatever little 'ethics and moral values' either brits, norwegians, canadians, americans, australians or any of the self righteous, lily-white, western countries may have. This is also aided by having control of the sports governing and regulatory bodies as well as the ever powerful media that is ever complicit in maintaining said prestige.
Perhaps you woke up from a cave but a certain erryon knighton tested positive for a banned substance and was allowed to compete at recent trials and is on his way to compete with the blessing of his nations federation and not a single question asked by the media.