Is Jake Whightman going to be "the next guy" again?

That he didn't look for excuses there doesn't mean he wasn't looking for excuses when he got beaten in the WC.

In another thread the mad man stated that you can't win when not completely fit.

I think Jake has the potential to be the most dangerous in a slow champ race (as early as 2017 he smoked a class Diamond League field by his superior shift / kick.). I also think Wightman will be a factor if he succeeds with his field racing like in 2022 (close to the rail). But the question is if he can keep up with an improved Kerr/Jakob/Nuguse etc (improved from 2022). His speed seems super -has he also managed to continue the strength improvements he did in 2022..?

It’s unclear. It hasn’t shown in his racing yet. He has somewhat sputtered in the homestretch of his 1500s/miles or had to rally (vs Hobbs) after getting dropped. He will need the strength though I agree.

Well, here I have to give you right…

That's exactly what I'm curious about. 1:44.10 so early in the season, especially after only one specific session and one 600m trial. Either he is on a different level this year, or he peaked too early...

If he were Kenyan, what other option would you list?

The same option. Don't even start...

Yes this is the challenge of being in a country with a stacked Trials system and an old-school periodized regimen. It would be less challenging if the Brits’ trials didnt devolve into a 3:40+ race.

Fair enough.

Everything you write here is completely wrong and contrary to available facts.
You and likeminded negativists have convinced each other that Jakob has inferior speed compared to other top milers.
I will say that Jakob in 2023 clearly was the fastest finisher of all which can easily be
proven by FACTS.

OSLO DIAMOND LEAGUE 1500m 2023:
Jakob took over the pacing “duty” just after the 1000m mark and was followed by all active top milers, including Kerr. Between 1300m and 1400m Jakob started to gap the field except for Katir. In the last 100m Jakob ran away from everyone beating Katir with just under 1 second and most of the other with from a little over 1 second and up.
Kerr - who is supposed to be a superior finisher - was 2.12 sec (3:30.07 - 3:27.95) behind
Jakob and about 1 second behind most of the other top guns. You could say that Kerr
was not at his best in Oslo and that is true. He was 0.69 sec away from his season best set in the Budapest 1500m final. BUT Jakob was 0.81 sec behind his SB 3:27.14 set in Silesia so Jakob was undeniable finishing MUCH faster than Kerr (and all the other).
By the way: You and other negativists like to claim that Jakob only can win paced races as if
Jakob has an advantage to the other runners in such races. In your blind angle, however, is the fact that Jakob gets pace for about 1000m whereas the rest of the field gets pace from start to finish.
This is particular easy to see in the Lausanne Diamond league 1500m in 2023 where Kerr was sitting on Jakob´s back the whole race until Jakob was running away in the last 100m
beating Kerr with 0.92 sec (3:29.64 – 3:28.72). Kerr was even outsprinted by steeplechaser
Girma on the last meters. This time Kerr was only 0.26 sec from his season best whereas Jakob was 1.58 away from his SB (he reportedly trained through this meeting).
So how can you and many others claim that Kerr or any other top miler is superior to Jakob speedwise?
It was exactly Jakob who accelerated and kicked the fastest in these 2 DL races where most of his competitors either ran their SB or close (Kerr).

BUDAPEST 1500M FINAL:
Kerr won not because of superior speed but because Jakob paced the field from around the
500m mark AND MORE IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE HE WAS 2.51 (3:29.65 – 3:27.14) AWAY
FROM HIS SB. Whereas Kerr ran his SB and therefore won (but only with a rather narrow margin of 0.27 sec).

Finally: Can you identify the “handful” of top runners who have superior kick to Jakob?

Are you man enough to address the above mentioned fact based arguments?

By the way: Do you think Tim has promised Jakob to pace him in the 2021 Tokyo 1500m final?

I know it might be painful for you to rewatch but here are videos from the Oslo and Lausanne DL 1500 meters from 2023:

Are you stupid? "Man enough"?

Just because the two of you have the same first name? You are blinded by your bias.

It doesn´t make a good impression that you confuse the years!? All his SBs should be moved one year back starting with 3:28.68 in 2020.

Formally he didn´t improve from 2021 to 2022 (apart from his indoor 1500m WR) but this is - in my opinion - more because he didn´t hit the right race in 2022 where there were 2 international champs so there were not so many chances. So in reality he could possibly have dipped under 3: 28 in 2022 if he had found the right race. There wasn´t a 1500m in Monaco that year. Jakob only ran two outdoor 1500m (Lausanne and Zürich) outside championships the whole season.

It is quite normal to improve BOTH your endurance AND your speed by doing the right aerobic training. I have written a longer post about it on another thread.

If you are interested I can provide a link.

I have also dared to draw on my own experience as an elite runner where I on long distance training ran good times from 100m to 7.500m, including elite times in the 800m.

You were never an elite runner. You lost all credibility now.

He stated what I said - that's his reaction.

Jakob has excellent gear shifting ability! See my answer to trollminator just above where I have linked to DL Oslo and Lausanne 1500m 2023.

Jakob´s 800m time is due to a significant improvement when he find time to focus a bit on this distance.

Are you aware that Jakob was a world class 800m runner as a teenager? At one stage he held the the 14 years age WR.

And: In the all time 1500m top 100 list only 2 runners of European origin have had better PBs at the age of 19 than Jakob. Can you guess who the 2 runners are? I can disclose it is neither Coe nor Cram.

There is no "world class" at 14.