Laurie Henes just ran Katelyn Tuohy into the ground

She ran 67.38 on the 2nd 400 which is over 4:30 mile pace. She didn't have it.

There's a reason, did you watch first 100,200,400,600?

Yes, this seems like a good analysis. I do think she ran a 63 close on that 4:06 at ACCs in 2022. And on the 4:24 mile. So not quite as big a differential vs the true milers.

So the remaining question is why - why go out so hard? Was this the actual race plan and they thought she could handle that pace? Or did she wing it so to speak? I wonder if the frustration of getting boxed out getting off the line quickly and then all the mayhem in the semifinal affected her? Maybe concerned about O’Sullivan? She wasn’t a factor but that was unknown as the race started.

Also Barnett did not advance out of the semifinal due to all the contact and she was the normal pacer and without her, Tuohy may have thought she would have to take it from the gun to keep the race fast enough.

it's normal for athletes to be fast for the first 200 in an 800 or 1500, and they will recover just fine for that. She was 65 through 400 (maybe 64.8).

She is burned out. Nothing more, nothing less. maybe she can recover for USATF but remember in 2022 she choked at USATF too.

Henes should know better. I think she burned KT out on purpose to maximize her daughter's chance at making the world team.

Now you have me chuckling, which is great. 800-1500 monsters like Howell recover better in race from fast 100-200 burst than a distance runner.

Both Henes and Touhy said well in advance they had no serious ambitions for 22 USATF race. This year we'll see, especially with no kt world standard.

Yes I do.

Tuohy hit 209 in 33.00 seconds in her 1 mile collegiate record. For 200m that's about 31.2. that's exactly what Tuohy's first 200 was in this 1500.

She is burned out

That's the point. In that Monson race, there was no downside if she faded. In Austin she was running a championship race against a field of kickers in 90+ temps. No collegiate record necessary. (also if you are trying to run 66 66 66, why go out in 31.2?)

We'll see what they do w USATF. If they pull out, or run poorly, I'd be more inclined to agree w you. Meanwhile, I'll stick w 'out too fast' theory.

I think you can similar times in her two fast DMRs.

No, she didn’t choke at USATF last year. At the time, she wasn’t good enough and it was not surprising that the women with faster PRs beat her.

The 8:35 she ran indoors showed significant improvement from last year, and if she can return to that level, she could be at least in the top 6 this year.

47.9 at 300 and 67 for next 400 so likely low 64s at 400

I think that she is getting too much attention. More than she can handle.

So that nobody will draft behind her. If she jumps out quick and nobody
follows at least one of the others will have to lead the chase pack at a
good pace and be at a disadvantage. If no one does, KT wins.

All of the other runners looked strong in this video. Nix the heat arguement!

I agree with all that feel that this was an off race. Where I depart a bit is that she’s been flat the entire outdoor season. As some have argued she hasn’t been in the shape she was during the indoor season. I don’t know that she was in 4 flat shape as argued by Astro when she was racing 8:35 3K record. When she ran 4:08 it didn’t look good but the 4:11 this last time out looked flat as well. Had she run a smarter tactical race she might have squeezed another 4:08 but she needs to figure things out or the upcoming USATF attempt could do more damage to her self confidence. Hoping we are pleasantly surprised and I don’t want to contribute to all the pressure she must be feeling to get back to indoor performance levels.

you are nuts. Other than Valby and Maatoug almost everybody in this race ran 15-20 seconds slower than their pr.

I don’t agree with that. But it is clear that she is getting more attention than YOU can handle.