And the Crimes that they are now crying no biggie are the exact crimes that they claimed were deserving of prison for the email lady. Only exponentially worse with Trump and real evidence of motive, corruption and national damage.
Trump had a box of documents (as did Biden, in multiple places)
Hillary had a publically internet facing exchange server that tied back to SIPRnet (a govt network solely for classified docs). This takes clear coordination for that sort of configuration to exist. There are literally physical encryption/decryption keying modules that need to be altered for this to work. Very clear intent.
So no, what Hillary did was exponentially worse than either of the two.
as you know, if Trump had given back the documents when the gummint asked for them, he would not have had any of these problems. (except for the sexual assault, the business records and J6. Those problems he'd still have).
Trump's problem is that he thinks he is above the law and fought legit law enforcement and lied to them and tampered with witnesses instead of cooperating. You know this so stop obfuscating.
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DeSantis is doing the happy dance right now. He will win the nomination by default. Gradually even some MAGAts will experience Trump fatigue and look to someone else.
DeSantis might actually be worse than Trump. Trump is a lying grifter conman who does not really care who he hurts to meet his needs. DeSantis is all those things but he is also just a mean person who enjoys being mean.
Biden did far worse yet nothing happened. Truly a 2 tier justice system
Reality is a very tough task master for "the truth.." The law, evidence, facts, the justice system are all working against him. He is grasping for a life jacket but it won't help.
Alan, You think you're so smart and you're posts always have a degree of pretense as if you think are better than everyone else.
Joe Biden took home classified documents as vice president, that is illegal as only a president can DEclassify documents. It took seven searches before Biden's illegal papers were found. No raid on his homes like Trump but quiet investigations before they found his illegal papers.
But that is not the biggest issue, is now we are learning the depth of crimes that Joe Biden has been involved with in taking bribes and enriching himself off his office even to this day with our enemies, China and Russia. He also took money from Ukraine and funneled it through up to nine family members. Now, you wouldn't know this because your media has not bothered to tell you about it keep thinking you're smarter than everyone else you uninformed jackass.
I heard a wingnut say that if they can do this to Trump they can do this to anyone.
Well I agree. We are all supposed to be equal under the law. He is not an emperor. If he broke the law, he should be brought to book for it. He'll have his day in court to answer the charges.
Alan, You think you're so smart and you're posts always have a degree of pretense as if you think are better than everyone else.
Joe Biden took home classified documents as vice president, that is illegal as only a president can DEclassify documents. It took seven searches before Biden's illegal papers were found. No raid on his homes like Trump but quiet investigations before they found his illegal papers.
But that is not the biggest issue, is now we are learning the depth of crimes that Joe Biden has been involved with in taking bribes and enriching himself off his office even to this day with our enemies, China and Russia. He also took money from Ukraine and funneled it through up to nine family members. Now, you wouldn't know this because your media has not bothered to tell you about it keep thinking you're smarter than everyone else you uninformed jackass.
Did you know Hilary kept child sex slaves in the basement of a pizzeria and Obama was born in Kenya?
DeSantis is doing the happy dance right now. He will win the nomination by default. Gradually even some MAGAts will experience Trump fatigue and look to someone else.
DeSantis might actually be worse than Trump. Trump is a lying grifter conman who does not really care who he hurts to meet his needs. DeSantis is all those things but he is also just a mean person who enjoys being mean.
Mickey Mouse is sweating this out now.
I don’t know. For his followers, which is the majority of the Republican base, this only makes Trump more of a Jesus figure. He claims he is unfairly persecuted.
I expect to see him pose on a cross as part of his new campaign theme.
Biden, Pence, Obama, Clinton, etc. all broke the law as it is written as well. They should all be charged for their crimes.
Are you so such a low information guy that you cannot see the substantial differences between Trump's situation with the classified documents and the others?
That isn’t the law. And it’s a helluva lot easier to be compliant when the other guy has already been raided.
I heard a wingnut say that if they can do this to Trump they can do this to anyone.
Well I agree. We are all supposed to be equal under the law. He is not an emperor. If he broke the law, he should be brought to book for it. He'll have his day in court to answer the charges.
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
The system is working.
So long as others who broke the same law are held to the same standard.
I heard a wingnut say that if they can do this to Trump they can do this to anyone.
Well I agree. We are all supposed to be equal under the law. He is not an emperor. If he broke the law, he should be brought to book for it. He'll have his day in court to answer the charges.
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
The system is working.
So long as others who broke the same law are held to the same standard.
We can all keep telling these right wingers that if trump has just given back the goods when asked for them, like everyone else did, he would not have this problem. only trump did this. Only trump.
I heard a wingnut say that if they can do this to Trump they can do this to anyone.
Well I agree. We are all supposed to be equal under the law. He is not an emperor. If he broke the law, he should be brought to book for it. He'll have his day in court to answer the charges.
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
The system is working.
So long as others who broke the same law are held to the same standard.
And again I agree.
If there are persons holding onto classified documents after they received a subpoena for said documents and further took steps to knowingly conceal, withhold and/or destroy said documents with the help of others, those persons also should be charged be they Republican, Democrat or Independent.
He'll have his day in court to say he didn't do it, if that is the case.
Alan, You think you're so smart and you're posts always have a degree of pretense as if you think are better than everyone else.
Joe Biden took home classified documents as vice president, that is illegal as only a president can DEclassify documents. It took seven searches before Biden's illegal papers were found. No raid on his homes like Trump but quiet investigations before they found his illegal papers.
But that is not the biggest issue, is now we are learning the depth of crimes that Joe Biden has been involved with in taking bribes and enriching himself off his office even to this day with our enemies, China and Russia. He also took money from Ukraine and funneled it through up to nine family members. Now, you wouldn't know this because your media has not bothered to tell you about it keep thinking you're smarter than everyone else you uninformed jackass.
oh dear you are really deep in the brainwashed cult aren't you?
She threw out a scenario and the guy responded that it is more likely that Donald Trump’s team offers up him dropping out of the race as some part of plea deal.
But there is no way the US Justice Dept accepts a plea like this. No way.
Now, the RNC could use a conviction to disqualify him from being a candidate for the Republican Party. There was talk of preventing him from being the candidate in 2016 even though he won the most primaries.
Nothing can stop Trump from running as an Independent. That would kill the Republican chances.
This thread has the usual whataboutery, distraction and deflection. And even the Bible thrown in for good measure.
There are only two questions that matter:
1) Is there enough evidence that laws were broken that a conviction is likely?
2) Do we, as a country, expect that the laws apply to all citizens, or are a privileged few allowed to ignore them?
If the answer to both of these is yes, filing these charges is right and he should pay the consequences. If the answer to both is also yes to others, like Hillary, the same applies.
And the whataboutism is exactly that, because it's clear to see there is no equal application of the law.
If it were someone other than Trump, it'd be nbd.
This will whipsaw back into the lefts face. I can't wait to see Trump debate a stammering, studdering Biden. He'll be virtually defenseless without his handlers Binder, Jill, etc.
So you're saying that just breaking the law a little bit, when there's enough evidence to give a good chance of conviction is nbd? And poor little Donnie is the victim in all this?
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