World Steeple Champ Norah Jeruto Busted for ABP Violation

It's hard to believe that the head of World Athletics would overstate the problem by 4 times. He would be an international laughing stock. Kenyan Athletics would also be justifiably outraged. They aren't. They don't dispute what he has said. And no one outside the resident propagandist on this site "corrects" Coe's figures - especially to the extent of making the problem virtually disappear.

Rekrunner has magic powers.

If he says - 'EPO doesn't work' then it is true, no matter what the scientific and sporting community says.

If he says - 'Only 12% of banned athletes are Kenyan' then it is true, no matter what Lord Sebastian Coe, World Athletics, the AIU, Athletics Kenya, or WADA say.

If he says - 'The Earth is flat' then it is true, no matter what science, airline passangers, astronauts, or satellites say.

I know what Coe said, and what you said, and what Kenya feared, but the most important question is what will WADA say when they get all the data from all of the NADOs, RADOs, and other signatories?

That isn't denying though. He correctly corrected the false statement from the BBC. Coe seems to have talked in November 2022 about "this year", not about currently suspended persons which goes back to at least 2007 (lifetime ban for Lichtenegger).

The 2022 infractions from that list are also far from 40% Kenyan (13 Kenyans out of 84 = 15%), but the list may be outdated. Though it was updated on April 1 this year, it still includes 8 people whose ban expired in 2022 ("The list of currently suspended persons was last updated on 1 April 2023.").

Just to be clear, the 12% comes from the AIU's published global ineligibility list, and suggests BBC Africa is wrong to say 40% of those "serving bans" are Kenyans.

That has nothing to do with Coe's statement about "doping positives".

The BBC weren't the authors of the statement; it was Coe, who referred to "40% of total positives in the sport". Rekrunner disputes that without the data to prove it and decides the figure is only a quarter of what Coe said. That makes Coe's comment an absurdity. But no one in international athletics sees that except the resident doping denier here.

The issue isn't the BBC, as you deflect as usual.

No, it isn't the issue. The issue is what is Kenya able to do to clean up its sport. There is no question about the scale of the problem.

40% makes sense in the scope of World Athletics testing and AAFs and ADRVs.

If anyone looks at First Instance decisions from 2022, I counted 20/51 from Kenyans, or just under 40% (including no-substance violations like whereabouts failures). The AAF count from the AIU will likely be similar.

Whatever anyone wants to believe about Kenya doping, the 40% results from World Athletics is also influenced by the AIU's testing strategy of testing more Kenyans. Given the AIU's stated strategy to test more Category A countries, to test more East Africans and to test more distance runners, it is easy to see how the AIU's AAFs and ADRVs will non-representatively undercount non-East Africans from Category B and C and D countries, who are being thoroughly tested outside of the AIU by their own national ADAs/ADOs according to their own funding and testing strategies.

This is not my invention, but the AIU explains this, at least in their 2020 testing report:

"The figures below only reflect the testing activities carried out
by the AIU. The AIU’s testing is focused on elite top-end athletes
and is designed to be specific, targeted and intelligence-led.
The other levels of athletes are covered through the efforts of
the National and Regional Anti Doping Organisations (NADOs
and RADOs), and that data is collated and published separately
by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)."

The issue is your understanding.

12% debunks a statement from the BBC about "serving bans" found in a link to a BBC article provided by "consistency" -- nothing to do with Coe's statement.

And I accepted Coe's statement about 40% "doping positives" from Day 1, as consistent with World Athletics testing and reporting from previous years.

No, you didn't. And you conflated the BBC report with Coe's claim.

All these lists need to be cleaned up.

For example, ADAK lists Jeruto both in the rulings list as well as the provisionally suspended athletes list (the ruling was from 02/03/2023), but AIU doesn't have her in their GLOBAL LIST OF INELIGIBLE PERSONS UPLOADED 01/04/2023.

In any case, here is what AIU Head Brett Clothier said in their press release from March 28:

"We're working very hard to solve the doping menace in Kenya"

Negative: there is a "doping menace in Kenya".

Positive: "Clothier said the AIU is working hard together with the Athletics Kenya (AK) and the Ministry of Sports to keep Kenyan athletes and athletics clean."

... though "keep ... clean" may sound like sarcasm.

The AIU tests more Kenyans because more Kenyans are doping. They would be stupid to do it if it weren't so and the infractions incurred show their approach is justified.

It is pr talk. "Doping menace" is fact.

Before you butted in, the exchange between "consistency" and me was about BBC Africa's quote of "serving bans", and not about Coe's quote of "doping positives". If anything, we established the difference between the BBC quote and Coe's.

If I see the moniker 'Rekrunner' in the left column I continue scolling down. Obvious troll. Time to move on guys.

This is only partly true. The AIU's Rule 15 explains in better detail that the AIU considers and balances two factors: international success and doping risk.

It looks like the AIU is also raising questions about New Zealand, who might join Kenya as a Category A country deemed to be at high risk of doping:

"New Zealand has been told by the international body, Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU), that it could face additional monitoring, including the same conditions imposed on nations like Kenya, Ethiopia and Belarus, if it does not improve its standards."

stuff.co.nz

Athletics NZ facing heat from world integrity unit over drop-off in drug testing

Dana Johannsen

Athletics NZ issued with “please explain” letter by sport’s watchdog agency after failing to meet international testing standards in its anti-doping programme.

Open link

https://runnerstribe.com/news/from-fabricated-medical-records-to-bans-uncovering-doping-infractions-in-kenyas-elite-athletics/

Way to scroll down and move on.

Do you think that that article is accurate? I read the AIU's report on Nalyanya, and it looks like "runnerstribe" took some poetic and artistic license, exaggerating and embellishing accurate information from the very first sentence "An operation using sophisticated medical techniques ...", and getting at least one quote wrong.

It also seems like it has nothing to do with a Kenyan-Kazahkstani with abnormal blood variations way back in 2020.