Yes. as in "13.16" > "13.24" (Milburn v. Davenport?) implies "faster". As in your surprisingly missing of 8 Kenyan world records. As in the fact that you are completely unable to find the most easy results. And so on in the long list of Armstrong stupidities. Your totally self contradiction in your point of view regarding doping is obvious for anyone to see.
That you keep insisting Keino's best 5k of 13.24 is faster than Clarke's best of 13.16 shows only what an absolute f*cking moron you are.
Thank you so much for this reply.
Still listing hurdles times?
Your post so clearly demonstrates with which sort of intellectual giant we have to deal here.
The only question for me which remains is: do you really not get the fact of the constant nonsense which you are writing over and over again or are you really the most self centered 70+ y.o. imbecile on this planet?
Armstronglivs:
Ron Clarke is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Ron Clarke
Pekka Vasala is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Pekka Vasala
At least you try to keep your level of argumentation here on par to your totally contradicting doping doint of view.
a brit you think is clean breaks a world record set by a russian........let that sink in.......take all the time you need.oh yes,and your "clean"brits easily beating doped spanish runners,and a "clean" guy breaking doped farahs record.......riiiiiight
I said I would love to believe it but I’m skeptical, implying (I thought very clearly), that I didn’t think it was clean. But I will anxiously await the reveal of your source and the trial with God to turn my skepticism into fact.
There have been over 1,000,000 EPO tests administered worldwide in the last 30 years. Only four have returned positive A samples and negative B samples. Two in athletics ((Lagat and Marion Jones) and two in cycling. In 3 of those 4 cases the athlete was later confirmed doping amd banned.
Lagat is truly a 1 in a million billion athlete.
The only case in a million of a clean athlete with a positive A sample
One of only 3 out of the 10 billuon or so individuals on planet Earth over the last 30 years to run 3:26.
It's like winning the lottery a million times in a row. Of course the dude is clean, Probably even cleaner than Shelby.
The case for Lagat being clean would be that he was competitive for <20+ years at an elite level and I highly doubt 1) he would be doping for 20+ years or 2) he would never be officially caught.
That you keep insisting Keino's best 5k of 13.24 is faster than Clarke's best of 13.16 shows only what an absolute f*cking moron you are.
Thank you so much for this reply.
Still listing hurdles times?
Your post so clearly demonstrates with which sort of intellectual giant we have to deal here.
The only question for me which remains is: do you really not get the fact of the constant nonsense which you are writing over and over again or are you really the most self centered 70+ y.o. imbecile on this planet?
Armstronglivs:
Ron Clarke is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Ron Clarke
Pekka Vasala is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Pekka Vasala
At least you try to keep your level of argumentation here on par to your totally contradicting doping doint of view.
You are seriously deranged. My arguments are not as you ridiculously present. Quite simply, 13.16 is faster than 13.24, which was Keino's best. If it were otherwise there could be no records based on time. Your thinking is found in an asylum.
Your post so clearly demonstrates with which sort of intellectual giant we have to deal here.
The only question for me which remains is: do you really not get the fact of the constant nonsense which you are writing over and over again or are you really the most self centered 70+ y.o. imbecile on this planet?
Armstronglivs:
Ron Clarke is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Ron Clarke
Pekka Vasala is faster than Kip Keino and Kip Keino is faster than Pekka Vasala
At least you try to keep your level of argumentation here on par to your totally contradicting doping doint of view.
You are seriously deranged. My arguments are not as you ridiculously present. Quite simply, 13.16 is faster than 13.24, which was Keino's best. If it were otherwise there could be no records based on time. Your thinking is found in an asylum.
Still listing hurdles times.
Exactly, your ONLY argument was that Clarke has a faster 5000m PB than Keino. Any, completely contradicting argument, went completely unnoticed/uncommented by you.
As consistent as your argumentation regarding doping, especially doping in Kenya:
1) We can assume anybody is doping (because we can't proof someone to be clean!!) (we can assume you are Kip Keino, because - at the moment - we can't disproof it). Or you are Ron Clarke, no proof he really is dead...
2) It suggests most distance runners from other countries (non Kenya) try to run faster legitimately.
7 3:28.3 Timothy CHERUIYOT 8 3:28.3 Jakob INGEBRIGTSEN
I think the clean WR is somewhere around here.
I know Lagat is well liked, but I don't buy that he was running clean when he ran 3:26. I do think he was clean for the latter part of his career though.
The case for Lagat being clean would be that he was competitive for <20+ years at an elite level and I highly doubt 1) he would be doping for 20+ years or 2) he would never be officially caught.
Oh yeah, he was faster at 43 than he was at 23, that certainly proves he was clean.
He did fail an A sample, at the height of the EPO era, running times that only Jacob and Nguse in super shoes and wavelight pacing are approaching 20 years later.
For a good portion of his career, at his peak, there was little or no testing for EPO and he still got popped. We don't know how much long-term benefit years of EPO use would have on an athlete who stopped or switched to micro dosing.
All fair points. I do think we might have to note that Jakob is a super-talent, but his best race to challenge a WR might be the 3,000 or 5,000. He lacks the speed possibly necessary to run under 3:27.0
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