These are just quick results from Google covering the ongoing debate. I could look more specifically and make a more specific argument later when I have more time.
Some interesting theories of cultural biases of IQ testing in the first article, but mostly pretty weak. People have been trying to poking holes and refining IQ testing since its inception - can you provide one experimental study showing a revised test which produces "equitable results" among racial groups. The authors of the second article seem to have all the answers, so it should be pretty simple to fix these testing errors, yet here we are still complaining that IQ tests are "culturally biased." Methinks there are just a lot of whiners out there who cant accept biologic realities.
That is inevitably what some of you will believe and I’m okay with that. I don’t respect your opinion.
They are going with the old “if you don’t disparage black people anonymously it must be compensating for actually disliking black people” argument. Totally logical and not projection at all.
I'm going with the old "if you're more scared of black people than white people you're probably a racist" argument.
They are going with the old “if you don’t disparage black people anonymously it must be compensating for actually disliking black people” argument. Totally logical and not projection at all.
I'm going with the old "if you're more scared of black people than white people you're probably a racist" argument.
Exactly. That Hunter Blow guy is in here calling people racists, then admits he's afraid of black people when he goes running -- something that's nearly always on the list of racist incidents that black people mention when asked: white people crossing the street to avoid them, white people monitoring them in stores; white cops profiling them, etc. Good grief, the hypocrisy. DiAngeloism.
I'm going with the old "if you're more scared of black people than white people you're probably a racist" argument.
Exactly. That Hunter Blow guy is in here calling people racists, then admits he's afraid of black people when he goes running -- something that's nearly always on the list of racist incidents that black people mention when asked: white people crossing the street to avoid them, white people monitoring them in stores; white cops profiling them, etc. Good grief, the hypocrisy. DiAngeloism.
I don’t think I could have been more clear on what my point was or what I believe, so if you’re still not getting it, and you aren’t as demonstrated here, then I can’t explain it to you. Maybe reread my posts.
Exactly. That Hunter Blow guy is in here calling people racists, then admits he's afraid of black people when he goes running -- something that's nearly always on the list of racist incidents that black people mention when asked: white people crossing the street to avoid them, white people monitoring them in stores; white cops profiling them, etc. Good grief, the hypocrisy. DiAngeloism.
I don’t think I could have been more clear on what my point was or what I believe, so if you’re still not getting it, and you aren’t as demonstrated here, then I can’t explain it to you. Maybe reread my posts.
I will go reread them. Is there somewhere that you explained why you are more afraid of black people than white people? The answer to that question would seem to be important for any further discussion.
Some interesting theories of cultural biases of IQ testing in the first article, but mostly pretty weak. People have been trying to poking holes and refining IQ testing since its inception - can you provide one experimental study showing a revised test which produces "equitable results" among racial groups. The authors of the second article seem to have all the answers, so it should be pretty simple to fix these testing errors, yet here we are still complaining that IQ tests are "culturally biased." Methinks there are just a lot of whiners out there who cant accept biologic realities.
You skim 3 articles in 16 minutes and come to the conclusion that you already believed. You certainly seem to be thinking about this very hard.
That's what I thought. Sorry, if racial disparities were as simple as testing errors, then the disparities would be easy to flatten. Nobody has yet found a way to flatten these differences, despite the level of motivation to disprove the hereditarian theory.
I don’t think I could have been more clear on what my point was or what I believe, so if you’re still not getting it, and you aren’t as demonstrated here, then I can’t explain it to you. Maybe reread my posts.
I will go reread them. Is there somewhere that you explained why you are more afraid of black people than white people? The answer to that question would seem to be important for any further discussion.
Growing up in a white upper middle class suburb, my exposure to black people was murders on the news, gangsters in media, etc. Other than a black best friend from age 8-15, my only real life interactions were with scary looking homeless people when I went downtown to sporting events. The brain naturally categorizes and discriminates. The human brain has always worked this way. My argument is that racism isn’t some binary thing that you are or aren’t. We all have “racist thoughts” to varying degrees. Many blacks people have racist thoughts about white people. They’ve told me as much.
You are unable to make a distinction between thoughts and actions...I do...
So essentially what you are sayiing is:
"I think black people are inherently inferior, but i'm not a racist because I'm too scared to actually express those opinions in public."
That the jist of it?
You idiots can't separate subjective attitudes and objective reality. I don't hate or treat members of different racial groups differently based on race. I can also acknowledge that the empirical evidence across many domains show that racial groups perform differently at different tasks. Part of that is going to be due to culture, but a lot of those differences are going to be due to physiologic differences in both the brain and the body. Blacks TEND to perform best at sport due to their physical gifts, east Asians TEND to perform best at mental tasks due to their neuroanatomic gifts, as the evidence shows. The other racial groups will tend to perform somewhere in the middle. Of course there will be outliers as well. That's not me saying that, that's what the evidence shows, there's a difference.
Hunter on the other hand, admits to holding racist attitudes and discriminatory behavior, but wants to call others racists for not denying empirical reality. Pure stupidity and lack of self-awareness.
Some interesting theories of cultural biases of IQ testing in the first article, but mostly pretty weak. People have been trying to poking holes and refining IQ testing since its inception - can you provide one experimental study showing a revised test which produces "equitable results" among racial groups. The authors of the second article seem to have all the answers, so it should be pretty simple to fix these testing errors, yet here we are still complaining that IQ tests are "culturally biased." Methinks there are just a lot of whiners out there who cant accept biologic realities.
In IQ test is not biology
Cognitive performance is a product of your neuroanatomy and function. So yes, it is a test of "biology"
Cognitive performance is a product of your neuroanatomy and function. So yes, it is a test of "biology"
An IQ test isn't this perfect measure of one's "cognitive performance" either. You're just talking in circles.
Perfect? Probably not. The best one we have? Absolutely. It's the single best predictor of academic and career/economic achievement. It's not the only factor that predicts those things, but it has the strongest relationship. I don't know why people want to deny this.
"I think black people are inherently inferior, but i'm not a racist because I'm too scared to actually express those opinions in public."
That the jist of it?
You idiots can't separate subjective attitudes and objective reality. I don't hate or treat members of different racial groups differently based on race. I can also acknowledge that the empirical evidence across many domains show that racial groups perform differently at different tasks. Part of that is going to be due to culture, but a lot of those differences are going to be due to physiologic differences in both the brain and the body. Blacks TEND to perform best at sport due to their physical gifts, east Asians TEND to perform best at mental tasks due to their neuroanatomic gifts, as the evidence shows. The other racial groups will tend to perform somewhere in the middle. Of course there will be outliers as well. That's not me saying that, that's what the evidence shows, there's a difference.
Hunter on the other hand, admits to holding racist attitudes and discriminatory behavior, but wants to call others racists for not denying empirical reality. Pure stupidity and lack of self-awareness.
You idiots can't separate subjective attitudes and objective reality. I don't hate or treat members of different racial groups differently based on race. I can also acknowledge that the empirical evidence across many domains show that racial groups perform differently at different tasks. Part of that is going to be due to culture, but a lot of those differences are going to be due to physiologic differences in both the brain and the body. Blacks TEND to perform best at sport due to their physical gifts, east Asians TEND to perform best at mental tasks due to their neuroanatomic gifts, as the evidence shows. The other racial groups will tend to perform somewhere in the middle. Of course there will be outliers as well. That's not me saying that, that's what the evidence shows, there's a difference.
Hunter on the other hand, admits to holding racist attitudes and discriminatory behavior, but wants to call others racists for not denying empirical reality. Pure stupidity and lack of self-awareness.
So you're saying I got the jist right....
Nope, nobody is saying anyone is "inherently inferior or superior" - that's a subjective value judgement. Just that at the group level, groups objectively perform differently on some tasks. Denying that doesn't make you a good person, nor does acknowledging that make you a bad person.
I know you just want to get off on calling others "racist" in order to inflate your weak self-esteem, though. Seeing as how you add nothing of value to the conversation.
"I think black people are inherently inferior, but i'm not a racist because I'm too scared to actually express those opinions in public."
That the jist of it?
You idiots can't separate subjective attitudes and objective reality. I don't hate or treat members of different racial groups differently based on race. I can also acknowledge that the empirical evidence across many domains show that racial groups perform differently at different tasks. Part of that is going to be due to culture, but a lot of those differences are going to be due to physiologic differences in both the brain and the body. Blacks TEND to perform best at sport due to their physical gifts, east Asians TEND to perform best at mental tasks due to their neuroanatomic gifts, as the evidence shows. The other racial groups will tend to perform somewhere in the middle. Of course there will be outliers as well. That's not me saying that, that's what the evidence shows, there's a difference.
Hunter on the other hand, admits to holding racist attitudes and discriminatory behavior, but wants to call others racists for not denying empirical reality. Pure stupidity and lack of self-awareness.
The only outward discriminatory behavior I’ve admitted to is hitting up black people for weed. Another one I’ll admit to is that I give black homeless people way more money than white homeless people, and the money I donate to charities primarily goes to black people either in the form of food bank contributions or reproductive services. I’m not lacking in self awareness. I know exactly who I am.
You idiots can't separate subjective attitudes and objective reality. I don't hate or treat members of different racial groups differently based on race. I can also acknowledge that the empirical evidence across many domains show that racial groups perform differently at different tasks. Part of that is going to be due to culture, but a lot of those differences are going to be due to physiologic differences in both the brain and the body. Blacks TEND to perform best at sport due to their physical gifts, east Asians TEND to perform best at mental tasks due to their neuroanatomic gifts, as the evidence shows. The other racial groups will tend to perform somewhere in the middle. Of course there will be outliers as well. That's not me saying that, that's what the evidence shows, there's a difference.
Hunter on the other hand, admits to holding racist attitudes and discriminatory behavior, but wants to call others racists for not denying empirical reality. Pure stupidity and lack of self-awareness.