Troothsayer wrote:
career wrote:
3:30
3:50
and 13:00
are really unfortunate PRs
So unfortunate that you can probably count less than 20 runners in history who have managed this.
I think he only means it in the sense that his PRs are agonizingly close to 3:29, 3:49, and 12:59, which some people would pay more attention to than 3:30, 3:50, 13:00, as ridiculous as that sounds.
pre maturing wrote:
And why not wait until after the Olympic Games and run it at a real track meet, like the Pre Classic in Eugene? Wouldn't that be the perfect place?
Instead they pick a High School track. Come on......
But how cool is that for the people in that community? There is a reason the Oregon Milers are strong. These people love track, and on Saturday night Centro is going to bring that magic to a high school track and I think that is pretty awesome. Just like Engels pacing all those guys to try and get their first sub 4 last week was awesome. I get that it’s weird and fishy that they do time trials, but at least they are doing something. This sport is full of people who race 2-3 times a year and you’re complaining about people who consistently go for super fast times and are always there at the top in championships.
1) Who could they possibly get to pace him and for how far?
2) Will they have pacing lights?
I've got the number for a portable pacing lights guy. Get him on a damn plane now.
3. Can we get Cole H in this race?
How epic would be if he pulled a Solinsky and spoiled Centro's party just like Solinksy did to Rupp?
If you find a 1:48 guy and a 3:36 guy they could team up as rabbits to get him through 1320 yards, at least if they were willing to lay it on the line for Centro. Are these guys available? Maybe…
rojo wrote:
1) Who could they possibly get to pace him and for how far?
2) Will they have pacing lights?
I've got the number for a portable pacing lights guy. Get him on a damn plane now.
Webb used a guy poorly splitting 1:53 and a second guy carrying him close to 1200 at 2:50 pace.
Who wants to pace 2:50?
round and round wrote:
it's incredible how humans hold opposite philosophies in their own minds and don't realize them. We're doomed.
When I was getting a teaching certification back in the 1980s, the term "cognitive dissonance" was thrown around, But it had little context for me at the time. The past few years have been almost nothing BUT cog-dis drenching society like hot water through a demented tea bag.
No chance BTC let Hocker in this race I believe apart of this is to smash hockers 3:50 mile to shut up the haters and show he can run fast as well
Thank you for saying this. I notice WAY too many posters who seem intent on American distance runners underperforming, or at least not supporting our best runners and it’s confusing to me. We should be rooting hard for Centro to break the AR and in Tokyo alike.
pre maturing wrote:
Haha, really?? Brilliant??
Running one race two weeks out will accomplish that??
Thought you prepared for races in practice? Isn't that what practice/training is for??
One race can do all that??
You have obviously never coached at all.
You know nothing, beta-boi.
Tell me you're not an actual coach!
This is about milers, not 10k, not marathon.
Real athletes who can run 50 second 400s and faster.
If you're a coach, just stop. Retire. Go home to your wife.
Coaching advise:
Last big workout before peak performance should be 10 days out, very fast, and not long.
.....Like a time trial mile for an AR record.
Doosh
SlowTwitchersSuck wrote:
pre maturing wrote:
Haha, really?? Brilliant??
Running one race two weeks out will accomplish that??
Thought you prepared for races in practice? Isn't that what practice/training is for??
One race can do all that??
You have obviously never coached at all.
You know nothing, beta-boi.
Tell me you're not an actual coach!
This is about milers, not 10k, not marathon.
Real athletes who can run 50 second 400s and faster.
If you're a coach, just stop. Retire. Go home to your wife.
Coaching advise:
Last big workout before peak performance should be 10 days out, very fast, and not long.
.....Like a time trial mile for an AR record.
Doosh
Haha, wow, you have the formula, the magic workout everyone has been looking for. You must be a coach, and the best for sure.
Look who's calling the kettle black..
Does anyone have a streaming url for the race?
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
I don't see the upside here.
If he's truly in 3:30 shape, why burn matches doing this? Could have just as easily run a low-key TT and accomplished much the same. Part of me wonders if he wants to miss this mark, and use the ridicule he'll get here and elsewhere for Tokyo motivation.
Or, like I said, he gets it, which might not be the best thing for a Tokyo race that's some time off.
Setting up a scapegoat... "Yeah I didn't medal in Tokyo but look I almost broke the AR!"
pre maturing wrote:
xczvzxcv wrote:
He doesn't get ten days recovery after the race; he gets ten days development from the race.
Say what? Without recovery there is no progress.
You do a last workout ten days before a race because that is the least time it takes to develop the adaptations from the workout. Races give you those adaptations too, and in both cases you get plenty of recovery up to the race.
If you think about it too, Centro does last workouts based on what he thinks he will need in the race. In 2016, the whole focus was on repeat 800s, on running a fast 800 on tired legs, because they all thought it would be slow and he'd need to run a very strong last 800-1k, which he did. In 2021, with the prospect of Cheruiyot leading the field, and Ingebrigtsen and McSweyn there as well, all three with an interest in a fast pace, he's trying to do a very fast mile to prepare for a potential sub 3:30 race (trials and the pre-trials race he did prepared him for a mid-3:30s sit and kick race, which is his strength anyway). Centro knows what he's doing. And it doesn't hurt that if he pulls it off, he can run a lot faster than Cole Hocker and Cooper Teare have run in the mile.
DownUndah wrote:
No chance BTC let Hocker in this race I believe apart of this is to smash hockers 3:50 mile to shut up the haters and show he can run fast as well
Nothing he does until the Olympic final is going to matter because he couldn't match Hocker in the last 100. Centro doesn't know how he can possibly replicate his 2016 performance. He's going to be under a heap of pressure with no game plan, while knowing there is at least one guy with a bigger kick.
Trollminator wrote:
Nothing he does until the Olympic final is going to matter because he couldn't match Hocker in the last 100. Centro doesn't know how he can possibly replicate his 2016 performance. He's going to be under a heap of pressure with no game plan, while knowing there is at least one guy with a bigger kick.
Centro has the least amount of pressure.
He's already gotten the Gold. He's set for life.
For most who will be there, this may be their best chance in their life to win at the Olympics. The pressure is on them.
Tim C and all of the Kenyans are under the most pressure to perform in Tokyo. They are expected to come home with Gold and it will be a failure if they don't.
Everyone who wants our sport to gather more mainstream attention yet get all bent out of shape over this? I mean if he breaks the AR it will provide some more headlines heading into Tokyo. No it will not suddenly make track number 1 but isn’t this what all want. People competing and going after it?
Runnerofruns wrote:
Centros weaknesses:
Long drawn out kick
What? That's his speciality.
Star wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Nothing he does until the Olympic final is going to matter because he couldn't match Hocker in the last 100. Centro doesn't know how he can possibly replicate his 2016 performance. He's going to be under a heap of pressure with no game plan, while knowing there is at least one guy with a bigger kick.
Centro has the least amount of pressure.
He's already gotten the Gold. He's set for life.
For most who will be there, this may be their best chance in their life to win at the Olympics. The pressure is on them.
Tim C and all of the Kenyans are under the most pressure to perform in Tokyo. They are expected to come home with Gold and it will be a failure if they don't.
Either he has already accepted he won't medal (and therefore has no expectations, no pressure), or he is going for gold again (in which case he's got all the pressure).
Runner10287 wrote:
Everyone who wants our sport to gather more mainstream attention yet get all bent out of shape over this? I mean if he breaks the AR it will provide some more headlines heading into Tokyo. No it will not suddenly make track number 1 but isn’t this what all want. People competing and going after it?
No... breaking a record like this in some randomly set up TT style race at a high school track is how you prove that the sport is really dead.