Yes. Most people predicted that the woman who set the indoor 3k record only 1 year ago would win. Vegas definitely would have had Schweizer as the favorite if they put odds on all entrants. Surprised, yes. Shocked, no.
Yes. Most people predicted that the woman who set the indoor 3k record only 1 year ago would win. Vegas definitely would have had Schweizer as the favorite if they put odds on all entrants. Surprised, yes. Shocked, no.
Nice PR for Barraza, but yikes for the other Tinman. Why race if that's your fitness level? It's February. There's nothing wrong with waiting. They seemed to make the same mistake with Winter back in December.
Marc Scott 54point enroute to 7:36 that's championship sharp. This is where the fandom, LRC geek happens and the warranted "what if?"
For comparison, here are the results from the men's 3k invite from last year's BU Last Chance meet:
Event 46 Men 3000 M Run Invitational
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BU Facility: B 7:34.68 2014 Galen Rupp, Nike Oregon Pro
Name Year Team Finals
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Finals
1 Lomong, Lopez Nike / Bower 7:37.74
2 Hill, Ryan Nike / Bower 7:38.03
3 Jagar, Evan Nike / Bower 7:38.25
4 Fisher, Grant Nike / Bower 7:39.99
5 Mahoney, Travis Hoka Njnytc 7:41.94
6 Endo, Hyuga Sumitomo Electric 7:49.66
7 Mcgorty, Sean Nike / Bower 7:51.16
8 Mestler, Jackson Oregon 7:59.46
9 Denault, Robert Vic City Elite 8:10.42
-- Centrowitz, Matt Nike / Bower DNF
This was the 2nd or 3rd meet for the BTC crew, coming off the USA indoor nationals in Albuquerque a couple weeks earlier.
And, recall, the BU track uses wooden rather than steel supports which makes it the bounciest, faster indoor track in the US/world which some consider faster than many outdoor tracks.
So, for an opener in early February with likely very little tapering, these men's results are extraordinary.
revenge of the Squigs wrote:
Quigley b---h slaps BTC!
And BTC absolutely could care less. It is February. BTC cares about June and after in 2021. Jerry will have them ready for when it counts as always. We will see if Quigley is BTC level ready when it counts.
They absolutely could? That pretty much means that agree. I think you meant that they could not care less about it.
No rail. Not one of these times are record eligible or can be used for ranking or Trials marks (women’s 8). Sorry.
Dude I'm sorry you are this boring that no rails actually bothers you.
Tugma wrote:
Dude I'm sorry you are this boring that no rails actually bothers you.
I’m sure they realized the times wouldn’t count and just wanted to race.
If they were trying to qualify, they would have run a 5k.
adidasmark wrote:
Nice PR for Barraza, but yikes for the other Tinman. Why race if that's your fitness level? It's February. There's nothing wrong with waiting. They seemed to make the same mistake with Winter back in December.
Yea great PR worth mentioning. But there is still a massive gap between Drew Hunter and anyone else on TME. Hunter is easily 10s faster than Barraza, which means he would have been with the lead pack the whole race and had a good shot at winning. Don't forget, in HS he constantly outkicked Grant Fisher in races despite being 1 year younger, no reason to believe that now he would be 5-10s behind him.
And about the other one, seems like Tinman just sent their B-athletes and "save" Hunter for other, more important meets. At least that gets us excited for the future.
oh my god the fanboy is awake. Good luck to the community for his next few posts.
Where’s the love for Fisher and McGorty.
They ran great!
I agree with that. He would have finished somewhere between 1 and 5. His last two races, he got stuck leading but this one set up perfectly.
I wasn’t able to watch.. did the last Tinman guy fall? Closed his last 800m in 2:21 high, while all of his previous laps were <= 63.5
Yea great PR worth mentioning. But there is still a massive gap between Drew Hunter and anyone else on TME. Hunter is easily 10s faster than Barraza, which means he would have been with the lead pack the whole race and had a good shot at winning. Don't forget, in HS he constantly outkicked Grant Fisher in races despite being 1 year younger, no reason to believe that now he would be 5-10s behind him.
And about the other one, seems like Tinman just sent their B-athletes and "save" Hunter for other, more important meets. At least that gets us excited for the future.
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Seen through neutral glasses from the other side of the Atlantic I don´t know why you are so optimistic about Drew Hunter.
In his last performances he has been outkicked by highschoolers. And his performances back in HS versus Fisher are hardly relevant any more. By the way: Drew is less than half a year younger than Fisher.
Last time time Drew ran a good time was more than one and a half year ago in DL Oslo when he ran just under 7:40 in the 3000m.
Drew´s 5000m in December 2020 13:17. 55 gives 1146 points which equals around 7:45.95 in the 3000m!
objectiveobserver wrote:
In his last performances he has been outkicked by highschoolers.
When?
run faster at the Locker wrote:
I agree with that. He would have finished somewhere between 1 and 5. His last two races, he got stuck leading but this one set up perfectly.
1?!?! Are you insane? Scott closed in something like 1:53. He’s certainly not going to finish in front of Fisher or The bias is strong with you.
Pretty sure he meant to say college kids instead
It’s just that those college kids were class of 2017 and Drew was class of 2016 in high school, they’re a lot closer in age then some realize
cramister wrote:
Pretty sure he meant to say college kids instead
It’s just that those college kids were class of 2017 and Drew was class of 2016 in high school, they’re a lot closer in age then some realize
Yes, Hunter was a Junior when GF was a Senior in HS. Anyone who knows about HS training knows that coaches train their runners according to the class they are in and not by biological age. So GF could be considered 1 year ahead of Hunter. I admit though that it will eventually even out and biological age will be the difference.
What speaks for GF is that he did a lot less mileage than Hunter in HS (40-45 vs 70, both as seniors), so Hunter beating GF in HS doesn't mean that he is still the better runner now. They also took different paths, but we must take into consideration that Hunter missed a lot of time during some unlucky injuries, which caused some setbacks. The story between these 2 once "HS prodigies" isn't closed yet for me, future races should shed some light on that. Fisher might indeed be better, I'm just saying we need to wait until Hunter actually races again before drawing any conclusions.