What is happening at the Capitol building is insane right now

If violence solved nothing, we would not have a military or armed police officers.

Rainy Day wrote:

I voted for Trump, twice. I can admit this display today is embarrassing. I’m not a pro-Trumper but I thought he was better for the country than Hillary or Biden. He should take his loss like a man and step aside.

Yeah, I’m sure every election has some fraudulent activity, but there is no evidence that it was widespread enough to change the outcome of the election.

These idiots at the Capitol make Republicans look really bad. They make the country look bad. Just because fringe left wingers have protested and rooted in the past does not make this okay.

Everyone needs to move on.

You are a complete idiot, who voted for a completely unqualified lying idiot, who you believed. What a fool you are. Republicans who don't speak out to the lies of trump look bad. These lying idiots had the Capitol stormed and their lives could have been in danger and many still objected to the election, in which trump lost. It wasn't close. Only once in the last 7 presidential elections has a Republican had the most votes. Notice who was storming the Capitol......98% white guys. The party is on the way out, especially that you fell for a dummy like trump. Complete embarrassment!

Notice who commits most crimes in the US....black males. What is your point of calling out the skin color of the protesters?

mycroft holmes wrote:

The president cannot incite a coup when he already is the president. That would be a coup against himself! If you think this was a coup attempt against the incoming Biden administration, it depends whether Biden was lawfully elected or not. Many of us think that there was likely massive voter fraud and that Trump would have been the rightful winner absent that. If so, then certification of Biden as president would represent a kind of coup in its own right. But nothing justifies rushing the capitol. Violence solves nothing. I think there is plenty of evidence of "irregularities", but the only way to "prove" voter fraud would be to have a forensic audit of the counties in question. But aside from a few small counties (Antrim, Michigan and maybe a small one in Georgia) I don't believe it has been done.

SMH....another idiot making idiotic comments. You think there was fraud becasue trump said so, before the election. Funny how he said there wasn't fraud in lily white rural states where he won, but in only a handful of counties that had large black populations. Notice how no other losers in the election claimed fraud. Every single U.S. Representative was on the same ballots on the same day and not one of them said their election win or loss was a fraud.

You are a guidable joke. Voter fraud.....LOL

OH...TX wrote:

Paradoxical wrote:

The looting started and the shooting started. Four protesters were killed yesterday by the police/government agents.

One person was killed by police as she tried to breach the last line of defence. Three died because they elevated their heart rate above 120 for the first time in decades.

Literal lol

Bonkers wrote:

Runner10287 wrote:

Agreed. Same with the BLM protesters this past summer.

Mr. Both Sides over here thinks it makes him sound smart and discerning to compare the riot to BLM.

BLM is about confronting centuries of discrimination and disenfranchisement. Read a freaking book my dude. Listen to the stories of black parents who have to teach their children how to handle a simple traffic stop.

The riot was a bunch of privileged white people who swallowed every lie and conspiracy theory from Trump because he lost a free and fair election and got his feelings hurt. Then they tried to violently overthrow our democracy.

Literal lol. BLM is just an opportunist group taking advantage of your 8th grade history knowledge to obtain power.

Blue Is Good wrote:

Are you accepting of the judicial system when it come to prosecuting police officers? Funny how it is corrupt one minute and perfect the next minute.

I mean, do you think the courts got it wrong? Have you seen what they're working with?

PENNSYLVANIA

"In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud."

"In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud...The judge pressed Goldstein to answer the specific question: “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”

"In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa.,..The stipulation of facts reads in part: “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots."

Go seek out these court documents yourself if you don't believe the lamestream media. Trump cries about fraud on Twitter, then in a court of law where you can't lie, his lawyers make no such claims.

So to answer you question - why do I believe the courts in this situation? BECAUSE NO ONE IS PRESENTING EVIDENCE OF FRAUD.

Source:

I mean "read a book". Lol you tool bag. At least get some new rhetoric. It's been months of the same slap woody comments. You freaking loser

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

This is easily the worst forum on the internet. JFC Brojos DO SOMETHING. Also the election wasn't stolen numbnuts. They keep getting trashed in court because they admit they have no evidence of election fraud.

Lol you coward. "Brojos do something". You people are literal simps.

Can you read English? I posed no question about the election. I trust the judicial system.

Questionable1 wrote:

SMH....another idiot making idiotic comments. You think there was fraud becasue trump said so, before the election. Funny how he said there wasn't fraud in lily white rural states where he won, but in only a handful of counties that had large black populations. Notice how no other losers in the election claimed fraud. Every single U.S. Representative was on the same ballots on the same day and not one of them said their election win or loss was a fraud.

You are a guidable joke. Voter fraud.....LOL

According to Benjamin Braddock at amgreatness.com, since 1960 the winning presidential candidate has always won Ohio, which Trump won by 8.5 points. There are also a bunch of bellwether counties that have predicted the presidential election a very high percentage of the time, and I think Trump won something like 18 of 19 of those. So if Trump did so well in those important bellwethers, how did he lose the election? Because Biden did really well in the key swing states. In particular, he did really well in the large metro areas of those states, many of which reportedly did not allow republican poll watchers to meaningfully observe key aspects of the process. But everything was cool, huh? And I'm the "guidable joke"?

There is an amazing number of stupid people here in the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

I know guys who are incredibly educated, very rich, had high level jobs in science area, and buy into that trump has been unfairly treated and the election was fake. That antifa disguised themselves as trumpencees and invaded the capitol as a ruse. And that not many really died from the virus, even though the guy was an exec at a company that makes one of the rona vaccines.

Its amazing how few critical thinkers there are.

The dems were able to fake the votes to win the presidency while losing votes everywhere else. And all on the same piece of ballot paper.

We have no critical thinkers left. My only hope is that the reduced antivaxxers will improve the IQ level of the country

Insane, but not entirely unprecedented. It is worth noting that most violence perpetrated at the capitol through the years has been by left wing extremists, foreign / Islamic terrorists and mentally ill nut jobs:

Mentally ill Miriam Carey tried to drive up to Capitol and say hi to her president and gets shot with her kid in the car - 2013

Hijacked Flight 93 headed for capitol is thwarted by passengers on board and crashes in Pennsylvania - 2001

Mentally ill Russell Eugene Weston Jr. shooting - 1998

May 19th Communist Movement Bombing - 1983

Weather Underground Bombing - 1971

Puerto Rican Nationalists Shooting - 1954

Bombing by Harvard professor / German spy Eric Muenter - 1915

Democrat Rep. Preston Brooks beats Charles Sumner with a cane because he gives speech against slavery - 1856

Failed assassination attempt by mentally ill white house painter Richard Lawrence (After being shot at, Andrew Jackson beat Lawrence with a cane) - 1835

British attempt to burn down the White House - 1814

There have been multiple instances of Antifa / BLM storming government buildings and destroying government property over the past year as well.

“If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it. All right? And I could be speaking figuratively. I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation,” - Hawk Newsome, President BLM Greater New York

"We are trained Marxists" - BLM co-founder Alicia Garza

mycroft holmes wrote:

The president cannot incite a coup when he already is the president. That would be a coup against himself! If you think this was a coup attempt against the incoming Biden administration, it depends whether Biden was lawfully elected or not. Many of us think that there was likely massive voter fraud and that Trump would have been the rightful winner absent that. If so, then certification of Biden as president would represent a kind of coup in its own right. But nothing justifies rushing the capitol. Violence solves nothing. I think there is plenty of evidence of "irregularities", but the only way to "prove" voter fraud would be to have a forensic audit of the counties in question. But aside from a few small counties (Antrim, Michigan and maybe a small one in Georgia) I don't believe it has been done.

Let's review. Thinking there was fraud doesn't mean evidence of fraud. I can think that dragons exist but there is no evidence, so I can admit I am wrong rather than live in a false reality.

The national media thought these people were patriots.

California_Democrat wrote:

What it would take is pretty much this:

1) Republican Party heavily distances itself from the Trump-crazed individuals who cause serious problems for reasons everyone can see from this thread. No further explanation needed here.

2) Democratic Party heavily distances itself from its most left-leaning individuals (supporters of Ocasio-Cortez & Co.). They don't cause the same type of chaos that the die-hard Trump supporters do, but they distract from serious issues by constantly whining about nonsense that literally doesn't matter (ex. Tearing down statues, renaming buildings, demanding that certain words be banned from usage, etc.), and hurt the viability of the party across the vast majority of the country.

If you get rid of both the heavily right-wing and heavily left-wing people across the country (on this board, it would be like getting rid of the Coevett's and the Precious Roy's), generally reasonable people can actually do things.

I won’t +1 this but man I sure chuckled

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

Let's review. Thinking there was fraud doesn't mean evidence of fraud. I can think that dragons exist but there is no evidence, so I can admit I am wrong rather than live in a false reality.

I totally agree. That's why I was careful to say there was evidence of "irregularities", rather than fraud. Irregularities could be mail-in ballots that were shown as returned before the date they were mailed, or the exclusion of observers from the process, or lack of chain of custody on ballots or usb drives. In Delaware county, PA a couple of Republican poll watchers say they were denied access to the counting center, finally getting a court order to allow them in, and then only being allowed to observe for 5 minutes of every 2 hours. That's outrageous! But no, it is not proof of fraud. It might be, combined with other data and testimony, considered evidence of it. Unfortunately, in Pennsylvania the mail-in ballots were handled in a way that makes it difficult if not impossible to do a meaningful forensic audit. I think that's why Trump's legal team wasn't taking the fraud angle, instead focusing on violations of election law.

What "many of you think" about election "fraud" is based on feeling not demonstrable evidence. You are using baseless allegations to build an enormous argument on. House of cards. The process was followed, the results tallied, the winner selected.

And re-tallied and reviewed. It's over. Have the maturity to accept the facts. For the good of the country.

jamese wrote:

What "many of you think" about election "fraud" is based on feeling not demonstrable evidence. You are using baseless allegations to build an enormous argument on. House of cards. The process was followed, the results tallied, the winner selected.

And re-tallied and reviewed. It's over. Have the maturity to accept the facts. For the good of the country.

What is with you liberals and being obsessed with facts and "evidence"? Those aren't important. What is important is Faith- us Trump supporters simply have Faith that there was election fraud.