Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

foo wrote:

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You can disagree all you want about whether Trump has delivered on his promises. That’s a discussion for another day.

However, you didn’t respond to my point that getting elected and being intelligent are 2 unique and distinct qualities.

You are partially correct. Sheila Jackson Lee gets elected and she's genuinely dumb, but she gets elected in a non-competitive district.

In general though, its very hard to win elections if you are as dumb as Sheila Jackson Lee.

Trump had to fight every step of the way and he found a way to defeat every dirty trick the Republicans, Democrats, and MSM threw at him. All the smartest political hacks in the country couldn't take him down. Trump has a lot of flaws, but being dumb isn't one of them. Calling Trump dumb is just childish.

Agreed. It takes time to see what impact an administration has. Which means those calling Trump a jobs creating wizard are as premature as those bemoaning the decreased 2017 figures.

L L wrote:

Trump likes to call himself the jobs president.

Jobs, job, jobs was his mantra.

In 2016 the US added a net of 2.24 million new jobs. (Obama's last full year in office)

In 2017 the US netted 2.06 million new jobs. (Trump's first year in office less the 19 days of Obama in January)

Why did job growth slow under Trump?

(I will say that presidents get too much credit and blame for these things but wanted to point out the stats anyway. and the final number may change)

Trump has done NOTHING to create jobs. He is shrinking government by understaffing agencies. So, job growth Trump is personally responsible for is a Bigly loss of jobs.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Well seems to me that even with my poor analytical skills, 2 ain't all that many. Can't say there has been any to count since. And neither of them even remotely related to "Russian collusion".

Yes, poor analytical skills. This is an "on-going" investigation that is actually moving quite rapidly. When it's all said and done it will make Watergate look like a misdemeanor. Dozens will be charged. With recent developments, it's becoming crystal clear that Flynn and Papadopoulos aren't the only ones talking with Mueller's team.

We shall see...

But be honest with yourself. If it was Clinton instead of Trump and all other circumstances the same, you guys would be calling for firing squads.

Uncle Pervy wrote:

We shall see...

But be honest with yourself. If it was Clinton instead of Trump and all other circumstances the same, you guys would be calling for firing squads.

Actually, it would never happen with HRC. With all her liberal rump swabs in the media, as well as the government riddled with Obama appointees, no one would likely have ever heard about any of it.

DiscoGary wrote:

I'm curious. How does calling Trump "dumb" change anything or make anything better? What do you think you're accomplishing?

It's like knee jerk liberal bashing, wouldn't you agree?

nontrumper wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Well seems to me that even with my poor analytical skills, 2 ain't all that many. Can't say there has been any to count since. And neither of them even remotely related to "Russian collusion".

Yes, poor analytical skills. This is an "on-going" investigation that is actually moving quite rapidly. When it's all said and done it will make Watergate look like a misdemeanor. Dozens will be charged. With recent developments, it's becoming crystal clear that Flynn and Papadopoulos aren't the only ones talking with Mueller's team.

Moving so rapidly since the election in 2016 that no one has presented any evidence of collusion to date. Except perhaps a "piss tape" that people still see to think is real. Now thats what I call a fast moving investigation.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Uncle Pervy wrote:

We shall see...

But be honest with yourself. If it was Clinton instead of Trump and all other circumstances the same, you guys would be calling for firing squads.

Actually, it would never happen with HRC. With all her liberal rump swabs in the media, as well as the government riddled with Obama appointees, no one would likely have ever heard about any of it.

Yeah the US IC is known for their bleeding heart anti-rule of law ways...

Conundrum wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

No one calls Putin stupid. What are you saying? Are you accusing Trump of being an autocratic thug like Putin?

If so, then you are admitting that Trump is at least as smart as Putin.

ut the consequences.

That makes no logical sense. Just because Putin wanted Trump to win, doesn't mean he is as smart as Putin. Here is Russian Television talking in circles about supporting and/or not supporting Trump.

Really Trump is dumb.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/margarita-simonyan-rt-editor-in-chief-60-minutes-russia-election-meddling-michael-flynn/

A "dumb" billionaire. I wish I was so dumb that I amassed a multi billion dollar fortune. I must be smart as hell then.

Uncle Pervy wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Actually, it would never happen with HRC. With all her liberal rump swabs in the media, as well as the government riddled with Obama appointees, no one would likely have ever heard about any of it.

Yeah the US IC is known for their bleeding heart anti-rule of law ways...

So it would seem these days.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

nontrumper wrote:

Yes, poor analytical skills. This is an "on-going" investigation that is actually moving quite rapidly. When it's all said and done it will make Watergate look like a misdemeanor. Dozens will be charged. With recent developments, it's becoming crystal clear that Flynn and Papadopoulos aren't the only ones talking with Mueller's team.

Moving so rapidly since the election in 2016 that no one has presented any evidence of collusion to date. Except perhaps a "piss tape" that people still see to think is real. Now thats what I call a fast moving investigation.

Claiming no evidence proves my poor analytical skills statement. Meeting after meeting after meeting with Russians (after US Intel informed that Russians were working to interfere) omitted on the forms of Kusner and Sessions, should in and of itself raise everyone's concerns.

The fact that you are so blinded by hatred of your fellow Americans that you cant imagine what you would do if the same facts were facing a Democratic POTUS provides little hope for this country making it in the long run.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Well seems to me that even with my poor analytical skills, 2 ain't all that many. Can't say there has been any to count since. And neither of them even remotely related to "Russian collusion".

Get back to us after you start from 0 and get two felony pleas in 12 months. The list of felonies must have been incredibly long to get a felony plea.

BTW, I still support the assertion that Trump himself likely did nothing illegal regarding courting Russian information as it regarded the election. We actually agree on this point.

Trump is clearly wholly incapable of any kind of complex thought and easily influenced, just like a small child

Uncle Pervy wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Moving so rapidly since the election in 2016 that no one has presented any evidence of collusion to date. Except perhaps a "piss tape" that people still see to think is real. Now thats what I call a fast moving investigation.

Claiming no evidence proves my poor analytical skills statement. Meeting after meeting after meeting with Russians (after US Intel informed that Russians were working to interfere) omitted on the forms of Kusner and Sessions, should in and of itself raise everyone's concerns.

The fact that you are so blinded by hatred of your fellow Americans that you cant imagine what you would do if the same facts were facing a Democratic POTUS provides little hope for this country making it in the long run.

That does not prove squat. Show verifiable evidence that a crime has been committed and we can have a conversation. After more then a year there's nothing. If there is, wheres the evidence. And I don't hate anyone. I just don't like politicians of any political persuasion gaming the system in their favor at the expense of others..............like the Clinton's have been doing for decades, and what HRC did to poor hapless Bernie. The entire family is corrupt. My FBI agent cousin does not call them the "Clinton Crime Family" for no good reason. Trump over HRC? You bet.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Well seems to me that even with my poor analytical skills, 2 ain't all that many. Can't say there has been any to count since. And neither of them even remotely related to "Russian collusion".

Get back to us after you start from 0 and get two felony pleas in 12 months. The list of felonies must have been incredibly long to get a felony plea.

BTW, I still support the assertion that Trump himself likely did nothing illegal regarding courting Russian information as it regarded the election. We actually agree on this point.

Trump is clearly wholly incapable of any kind of complex thought and easily influenced, just like a small child

I think anyone that would label a successful billionaire "incapable of any kind of complex thought", are themselves "incapable of any kind of complex thought".

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

BTW, I still support the assertion that Trump himself likely did nothing illegal regarding courting Russian information as it regarded the election. We actually agree on this point.

A lot of people, of a wide range of political stripes, seem to agree on this.

DiscoGary wrote:

foo wrote:

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You can disagree all you want about whether Trump has delivered on his promises. That’s a discussion for another day.

However, you didn’t respond to my point that getting elected and being intelligent are 2 unique and distinct qualities.

You are partially correct. Sheila Jackson Lee gets elected and she's genuinely dumb, but she gets elected in a non-competitive district.

In general though, its very hard to win elections if you are as dumb as Sheila Jackson Lee.

Trump had to fight every step of the way and he found a way to defeat every dirty trick the Republicans, Democrats, and MSM threw at him. All the smartest political hacks in the country couldn't take him down. Trump has a lot of flaws, but being dumb isn't one of them. Calling Trump dumb is just childish.

Winning an election is simply about being the most popular choice. (In this case it was about being the least unpopular choice in some arbitrary states.) Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. So what if there were a lot of smart people who didn't want him as POTUS? You could probably make that claim about every individual who became POTUS.

I'll agree with you on one thing. Trump does have a lot of flaws.

Flagpole wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

It's more than his great monologue. In situations where he has to recall facts or lyrics or written passages he shows brilliance.

You might not like his politics, but he isbrilliant.

Yep. Brilliant. Quick-witted. Talented as a performer (trained in improv, acting, and standup) with amazing stage presence who can even dance and sing.

Yep on Colbert, almost as performed as Obama was for 8 years, but you applauded his act. Pot to Kettle, come in.

Wait for his comeback, it'll be spectacular as he's never wrong...oh wait, I forgot about:):):):):)

Trump came and kicked a$$ with a win in the popular vote, not including the overly liberal state of California and their illegals. Otherwise, we won everything. How sad for Flags Magoo.