This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
This is wild. 70% of embalmers are finding white fibrous clots in their corpses, something they never found prior to Covid vaccines. 80% found micro-clotting
"I am a physician-epidemiologist who has consistently questioned the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines. In the summer of 2021, I was the lead author on the first major study pointing out the risks of post-Pfizer vaccination myocarditis in adolescents. We found that the potential benefits of full vaccination did not appear to outweigh the risks in healthy adolescent males just looking at post-vaccination myocarditis risks alone. Not long after, I was senior author of another analysis published in BMJ-Journal of Medical Ethics that found the harms of the booster dose in college age students likely outweighed potential benefits by at least 18-fold. What is more, I have written multiple timesabout the COVID-19 vaccines being implicated in numerous deaths and have a related peer-reviewed paper hopefully coming soon. Finally, I have most recently voiced my concern about the production process of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine and the potential risks of DNA plasmid contamination to the Public Health Integrity Committee."
Not weighing the merits of her critique of the 17 million deaths, this is her introduction. But, now she is the credible expert here? Monkeys, weren't you the one constantly touting that the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the risks in -all- age groups? That's literally what you said. That's not what she said.
We all know people who were harmed by the vaccines, and some of them died. Only, if it wasn't in the first 48-72 hours, then no attribution was made. But you and your brethren would tell me that a family member's major adverse vaccine reaction was merely a headache. So, honestly, to hell with you guys.
People could see early and often that the virus really wasn't that deadly and that the vaccine really wasn't that effective. So, if you happened to be taking a wait and see approach and successfully developed immunity, somehow you had to wear the scarlet letter, like No-vax. But the No-vaxers of the world actually were -generally- correct (generally is not always and everywhere), and that just pisses off all you self-proclaimed high IQers to no end. It really is comedy gold.
Chokervic’s secret girlfriend also is incredibly credulous of 17 million dead from the vaccines. I actually don’t know anyone who had a serious reaction to the vaccine. Does that mean nobody was harmed by it? This is the logic you use.
There is not a single graph in the 210 pages that shows the death data are better fits to vaccination timelines vs COVID deaths - and remember this is for countries far beyond the US and its sphere of Big Pharma influence. Rancourt ignores this because he knows he cannot refute it. His only argument is that “if you count COVID deaths as vaccine deaths, the vaccine was deadly” and he has done no work to show the deaths aren’t COVID.
A tremendous oversight after 230 pages of writing!
Displayed graphs has nothing to do with the Rancourt et al. paper. He discusses the data and findings in sections 6.4 & 6.5 starting on page 113. If they were to present a graph for every age group for each of the 17 countries, that could have taken up another 100 pages. During the debate presentation, Rancourt did show some of those graphs for vulnerable age groups and how they closely aligned with the vaccine drug rollout in various countries. It was easy for him to switch between graphs on the screen. After he finishes his report in 150 countries, I hope he makes those graphs for each of the countries available online.
By the way, the Rancourt, et al. paper is 180 pages, yet Morris states it is 130 pages and in your post it somehow becomes both 210 and 230 pages. One reason I post expert videos is sometimes the attention span needed to read a report (or even the page numbers of a report) is lacking.
There’s a reason academic papers have supplementary information. They understand that hiding data due to concerns about length is pointless.
Meanwhile, his detractors have made their data available and the conclusions are clear.
I am on the side of openness and discussion and Rancourt seems to be hiding something in his 250 pages. Telling!
I’ve banished many antivaxxers from this thread. You will leave soon enough. That’s a win - something Chokervic couldn’t do.
Why are you relegated to talking about a tennis player who couldn't muster better than runner up (French) and fourth round (US Open) finishes in 2019, but who still went on to get the all time slams record during and after Covid? I though you were so smart that you didn't occupy yourself with such trivial things. I mean, you told us so. Yet, here you are. It's quite pathetic.
3.75 years, and you've convinced absolutely nobody, except your brethren on this thread, that the vaccines, if we really accept that definition, are no better than natural infection for conveying immunity in most people but have greater side effects that have jacked a lot of people up. Completely unnecessary and useless except in the riskiest groups (which seems to be your entire focus for corroborating vaccines = good).
You don't banish anyone. They banish themselves because this is incredibly tiring, arguing with an automaton who brings nothing compelling. No-vax ~ now that was a genius nickname. Dude bothers you so. In your head. You can't stop dwelling on him, and, now Kelce?
I’ve driven countless antivaxxers off this thread. That’s my job. You will leave too because it’s too tiring to argue a losing position against me and my band of brave, smart, and determined provaxxers (who, incidentally, did not help kill 300k innocent americans)
Chokervic lost. Quintuple vaxxed Kelce won. It’s obvious the conclusion to make but you are blind to it, brother.
Why are you relegated to talking about a tennis player who couldn't muster better than runner up (French) and fourth round (US Open) finishes in 2019, but who still went on to get the all time slams record during and after Covid? I though you were so smart that you didn't occupy yourself with such trivial things. I mean, you told us so. Yet, here you are. It's quite pathetic.
3.75 years, and you've convinced absolutely nobody, except your brethren on this thread, that the vaccines, if we really accept that definition, are no better than natural infection for conveying immunity in most people but have greater side effects that have jacked a lot of people up. Completely unnecessary and useless except in the riskiest groups (which seems to be your entire focus for corroborating vaccines = good).
You don't banish anyone. They banish themselves because this is incredibly tiring, arguing with an automaton who brings nothing compelling. No-vax ~ now that was a genius nickname. Dude bothers you so. In your head. You can't stop dwelling on him, and, now Kelce?
I’ve driven countless antivaxxers off this thread. That’s my job. You will leave too because it’s too tiring to argue a losing position against me and my band of brave, smart, and determined provaxxers (who, incidentally, did not help kill 300k innocent americans)
Chokervic lost. Quintuple vaxxed Kelce won. It’s obvious the conclusion to make but you are blind to it, brother.
Except it's not a losing position. You just have nothing compelling to offer after 3+ years, and it sucks for you that the virus wasn't more deadly and that the vaccine really was not great and no better than natural immunity, because then perhaps, you would have a good argument. We figured it out, you didn't, well, not until it was too late, and boy does that chap your azz.
So, all you have left is to is keep talking about No-vax... or something. Compelling! People don't leave because they feel defeated; they leave because there are a million better things to do than listen to a smug narcissist drone on about nothing.
Displayed graphs has nothing to do with the Rancourt et al. paper. He discusses the data and findings in sections 6.4 & 6.5 starting on page 113. If they were to present a graph for every age group for each of the 17 countries, that could have taken up another 100 pages. During the debate presentation, Rancourt did show some of those graphs for vulnerable age groups and how they closely aligned with the vaccine drug rollout in various countries. It was easy for him to switch between graphs on the screen. After he finishes his report in 150 countries, I hope he makes those graphs for each of the countries available online.
By the way, the Rancourt, et al. paper is 180 pages, yet Morris states it is 130 pages and in your post it somehow becomes both 210 and 230 pages. One reason I post expert videos is sometimes the attention span needed to read a report (or even the page numbers of a report) is lacking.
There’s a reason academic papers have supplementary information. They understand that hiding data due to concerns about length is pointless.
Meanwhile, his detractors have made their data available and the conclusions are clear.
I am on the side of openness and discussion and Rancourt seems to be hiding something in his 250 pages. Telling!
“Ahhhhhhhh!!!! It does not confirm my bias!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh!!!!”
Why are you relegated to talking about a tennis player who couldn't muster better than runner up (French) and fourth round (US Open) finishes in 2019, but who still went on to get the all time slams record during and after Covid? I though you were so smart that you didn't occupy yourself with such trivial things. I mean, you told us so. Yet, here you are. It's quite pathetic.
3.75 years, and you've convinced absolutely nobody, except your brethren on this thread, that the vaccines, if we really accept that definition, are no better than natural infection for conveying immunity in most people but have greater side effects that have jacked a lot of people up. Completely unnecessary and useless except in the riskiest groups (which seems to be your entire focus for corroborating vaccines = good).
You don't banish anyone. They banish themselves because this is incredibly tiring, arguing with an automaton who brings nothing compelling. No-vax ~ now that was a genius nickname. Dude bothers you so. In your head. You can't stop dwelling on him, and, now Kelce?
I’ve driven countless antivaxxers off this thread. That’s my job. You will leave too because it’s too tiring to argue a losing position against me and my band of brave, smart, and determined provaxxers (who, incidentally, did not help kill 300k innocent americans)
Chokervic lost. Quintuple vaxxed Kelce won. It’s obvious the conclusion to make but you are blind to it, brother.
Yes. Yes. More Choverovic and Taylor Swift’s boyfriend!!!! This is what they use as evidence when the science and the data don’t support them. I LOVE IT!!!! 😂
I’ve driven countless antivaxxers off this thread. That’s my job. You will leave too because it’s too tiring to argue a losing position against me and my band of brave, smart, and determined provaxxers (who, incidentally, did not help kill 300k innocent americans)
Chokervic lost. Quintuple vaxxed Kelce won. It’s obvious the conclusion to make but you are blind to it, brother.
Except it's not a losing position. You just have nothing compelling to offer after 3+ years, and it sucks for you that the virus wasn't more deadly and that the vaccine really was not great and no better than natural immunity, because then perhaps, you would have a good argument. We figured it out, you didn't, well, not until it was too late, and boy does that chap your azz.
So, all you have left is to is keep talking about No-vax... or something. Compelling! People don't leave because they feel defeated; they leave because there are a million better things to do than listen to a smug narcissist drone on about nothing.
So it seem the vaccine actually works quite well you admit now... as opposed to be a deadly disaster. Noted. Progress!
It's very much a winning position. If you leave, you concede defeat. Those are the eternal rules of debate. Sorry, bub
Except it's not a losing position. You just have nothing compelling to offer after 3+ years, and it sucks for you that the virus wasn't more deadly and that the vaccine really was not great and no better than natural immunity, because then perhaps, you would have a good argument. We figured it out, you didn't, well, not until it was too late, and boy does that chap your azz.
So, all you have left is to is keep talking about No-vax... or something. Compelling! People don't leave because they feel defeated; they leave because there are a million better things to do than listen to a smug narcissist drone on about nothing.
So it seem the vaccine actually works quite well you admit now... as opposed to be a deadly disaster. Noted. Progress!
It's very much a winning position. If you leave, you concede defeat. Those are the eternal rules of debate. Sorry, bub
Actually, I'm not admitting that at all, as its not even a position I ever alleged. Wait, are you on the spectrum? Your stubbornness, inflexibility, inability to discern nuance, and perpetual need to carry on would suggest so. In which case, I guess I sort of owe you an apology?
So it seem the vaccine actually works quite well you admit now... as opposed to be a deadly disaster. Noted. Progress!
It's very much a winning position. If you leave, you concede defeat. Those are the eternal rules of debate. Sorry, bub
Actually, I'm not admitting that at all, as its not even a position I ever alleged. Wait, are you on the spectrum? Your stubbornness, inflexibility, inability to discern nuance, and perpetual need to carry on would suggest so. In which case, I guess I sort of owe you an apology?
You said the vaccine was no better than natural immunity. That means it could be as good! Do you think natural immunity is bad?
The data show the vaccine is better than natural immunity but still, you admitting it was as good is a big step. (Unless you think natural immunity is garbage)
P.S. Rogers COVID issues certainly helped cause his injury and is limiting his return to play. The vaccine would have prevented it, likely.
Randomresponder: Sorry man - when twoggle copy-pastes like 19 bitchute videos it's hard to see other responses on the page. If you quote it I'll respond. Likely you're just fangirling over Chokervic more despite the fact that he's a shell of his former self.
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Actually, I'm not admitting that at all, as its not even a position I ever alleged. Wait, are you on the spectrum? Your stubbornness, inflexibility, inability to discern nuance, and perpetual need to carry on would suggest so. In which case, I guess I sort of owe you an apology?
You said the vaccine was no better than natural immunity. That means it could be as good! Do you think natural immunity is bad?
The data show the vaccine is better than natural immunity but still, you admitting it was as good is a big step. (Unless you think natural immunity is garbage)
P.S. Rogers COVID issues certainly helped cause his injury and is limiting his return to play. The vaccine would have prevented it, likely.
What? No cute nickname for Rodgers?
When the data doesn’t support you and the science doesn’t support you. Go to Chokerivic and Taylor Swift’s BF. 😂
Actually, I'm not admitting that at all, as its not even a position I ever alleged. Wait, are you on the spectrum? Your stubbornness, inflexibility, inability to discern nuance, and perpetual need to carry on would suggest so. In which case, I guess I sort of owe you an apology?
You said the vaccine was no better than natural immunity. That means it could be as good! Do you think natural immunity is bad?
The data show the vaccine is better than natural immunity but still, you admitting it was as good is a big step. (Unless you think natural immunity is garbage)
P.S. Rogers COVID issues certainly helped cause his injury and is limiting his return to play. The vaccine would have prevented it, likely.
I think 3-4 vaccinations and Omciron infection is almost as good as natural immunity and Omicron infection, but also not without widely adverse impacts and also, largely, unnecessary for most of the population. I repeat, it's a shame for you the virus wasn't more deadly, that the vaccines weren't better at both preventing infection and stopping spread after 1-2 shots, tops, and that you didn't figure this out much sooner as we all did.
Certainly is a strong word with absolutely nothing to back it up. But it doesn't matter, Rodgers was correct, he was immunized.
