Don't forget about Steve Kip for SLU. He was out this year, but should be back next year. That's Ramsey, Kip, Mwenda, Johnson, and Jackson as the top returners. You also have guys like Andrew Goodwin who can have a better year with some more miles under their belts.
Mwenda is going abroad for the spring semester. Too bad, he ran some exciting steeples last year.
For the record, Lee, Jesse and Chi were sick all week. Woodsie took them anyway because he really had nowhere else to turn. Can't fault someone if they are ill. Look at Kosgei.
The flu happens.
Also, Geneseo does NOT treat Sunyacs like Nationals! I ran there for four years and we've been trying to beat Cortland for four years. This year it happened. If you were at Sunyacs, both teams ran their balls off and each wanted the meet as bad as the other. Geneseo had the better day but Cortland won the year. Pick on RIT whose performance was embarrassing or the other 40 schools that didn't make it to the big dance. Geneseo's performance was disappointing but if you're disappointed with 6th, then that's a pretty good team.
when are people going to stop jacking off to slu?
if you want a true measure of their performance as a team, look no further than regionals this year. their senior pack was mediocre, mwenda is highly overrated, and ramsey is a marginal #1 at best.
look for them to have another xc season similar to this year, where they place 5th or 6th at regionals again, and if they make it into nationals, it's only because the ncaa committee feels bad for them.
geneseo cleans up next year. berube kicks ass, o'connor is AA - they're destined for good things.
cortland gets cleaned out, but they still beat slu/suny p because they're a good program (you can't have marginal success for a few years and pretend you're a good program mikejones999)
nyu does well, they also have a great coach and a good program. they put 5 guys in front of ramsey at regionals/nationals.
just my two cents.
Welcome back woah nelly, I've missed you. Dan Ramsey was a marginal 4th at xc nationals. Just fyi better than any Cortland, or Geneseo runner in recent years.
Also, SLU has been enjoying marginal success throughout it's entire history. No team has been amazing, but plenty of good individuals. Some of my favorites: Jukka, Enwright, Lawton Redman, the Lee Pollock.
Proud Alum wrote:
For the record, Lee, Jesse and Chi were sick all week. Woodsie took them anyway because he really had nowhere else to turn. Can't fault someone if they are ill. Look at Kosgei.
The flu happens.
Also, Geneseo does NOT treat Sunyacs like Nationals! I ran there for four years and we've been trying to beat Cortland for four years. This year it happened. If you were at Sunyacs, both teams ran their balls off and each wanted the meet as bad as the other. Geneseo had the better day but Cortland won the year. Pick on RIT whose performance was embarrassing or the other 40 schools that didn't make it to the big dance. Geneseo's performance was disappointing but if you're disappointed with 6th, then that's a pretty good team.
uhh pick on RIT?? i'm pretty sure they made it to nats, which is an accomplishment by itself. sorry mr. suny ivy-leaguer, i don't see how picking on RIT would be appropriate there. they were right in the thick of things at the end of the pack, so it's not like they did horrible, just not as well as the rest of the AR. pick on some other crappy team indeed, like one that didn't make nats
chyeah boiiiii wrote:
uhh pick on RIT?? i'm pretty sure they made it to nats, which is an accomplishment by itself. sorry mr. suny ivy-leaguer, i don't see how picking on RIT would be appropriate there. they were right in the thick of things at the end of the pack, so it's not like they did horrible, just not as well as the rest of the AR. pick on some other crappy team indeed, like one that didn't make nats
While I agree with your sentiment, I disagree with you point. RIT bombed big time. I don't think it does anyone any good at all to pretend they didn't.
I was rooting for RIT all season, and I was happy to see them make it, but their performance was... well, not good. Even if they had an average day, they still should have been top 20.
That being said, I do think we should try to be more positive (not limpwristed, just be respectful). As a spectator at Nats, I have to say that RITs fans weren't the classiest, noteably with their interactions with the SLU crowd. I can understand the passion, but I'd love to see Atlantic Region come together more at NCAAs.
Small problem.. wrote:
That being said, I do think we should try to be more positive (not limpwristed, just be respectful). As a spectator at Nats, I have to say that RITs fans weren't the classiest, noteably with their interactions with the SLU crowd. I can understand the passion, but I'd love to see Atlantic Region come together more at NCAAs.
I agree 100%. Sure, teams want to beat each other and there are rivalries within the region, but a lot of the shit that goes on here is unnecessary. At the NCAA's this past weekend, i can assure you that everyone who i talked to before and after the race was completely supportive of everyone else, no matter which team they were from. Just because this board is anonymous, it shouldn't be a free pass to tear down teams and individuals who have put in an incredible amount of work this season.
I agree with that response. RIT had a bad race but, I just don't like the fact that they got ripped on by a harvard alum when they ran so well all season, minus nats.
chyeah boiiiii wrote:
I agree with that response. RIT had a bad race but, I just don't like the fact that they got ripped on by a harvard alum when they ran so well all season, minus nats.
he was just saying that people are saying that geneseo tried to peak for sunyacs to that they could beat cortland which is untrue by showing that they got 6th at nationals with sick people... he was trying to point out by using RIT as an example that if geneseo peaked for a meet earlier in the year, such as RIT at regionals, that they would not have ran as well as they did at nationals
Now that the season is over looks like drinking is trumping letsrun. As it should.
RIP AR 2009 Thread
As a member of the RIT team, we have nothing against SLU -- just a friendly rivalry. After all of our races we were pretty cordial with each other (at least the top whatever that were racing each other). Any kind of distastefulness is more a reflection of individual opinion or mob mentality rather than the feelings of our team as a whole. I apologize for any of those that showed anything less, and I totally agree at national meets at least, the AR fans should stick together. The better we do as a region, the more likely we'll continue to send 5 teams to the big dance.
As for us bombing...it happens. Sickness, injury -- sometimes you're dealt queen/4, but you play the hand you've got.
I'm gonna keep bugging everyone. Are there any pics from regionals? what happened to the ones that geneseo showed at the ceremony?
I'm gonna keep bugging everyone. Are there any pics from regionals? what happened to the ones that geneseo showed at the ceremony?
I have some pictures. I'll try to post them on flickr or some such shit at some point.
bump till June 1 2010
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SUNY Brockport newspaper is running a poll to determine "athlete of the fall." Lets hope she wins and decides to come back next year to defend her title.
Who's competing at Cornell or any other meets this weekend? Anyone trying to get a qualifying time out of the way while they're still in xc shape?
Stan The Man wrote:
Who's competing at Cornell or any other meets this weekend? Anyone trying to get a qualifying time out of the way while they're still in xc shape?
History has shown that it usually doesn't work out to go after a qualifying time this early. That doesn't mean you won't see a bunch of people trying.
RIT Guy wrote:
As a member of the RIT team, we have nothing against SLU -- just a friendly rivalry. After all of our races we were pretty cordial with each other (at least the top whatever that were racing each other). Any kind of distastefulness is more a reflection of individual opinion or mob mentality rather than the feelings of our team as a whole. I apologize for any of those that showed anything less, and I totally agree at national meets at least, the AR fans should stick together. The better we do as a region, the more likely we'll continue to send 5 teams to the big dance.
As for us bombing...it happens. Sickness, injury -- sometimes you're dealt queen/4, but you play the hand you've got.
so...we're all wondering...is Jared Burdick good at math?