This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
You have an expectation that sub-clinical MC from COVID-19 vaccination will somehow be worse (much worse) than sub-clinical MC from viral infection... any evidence? Given the lack of cardiac event signal in younger populations over the last 3 years - I am very skeptical of your hand-wringing.
You have an expectation that there will be long-term damage that is completely invisible until it magically appears. That's a rare feature in medical outcomes. Especially since we are now 3 years out from mass dosing and still see no signals of "cancer or other debilitating conditions." Your insistence on "reports" without comparison to background rates in the population is useless.
The I make you talk the more quackish you seem.
"Little to no testing." Ha. Only the largest Ph3 vaccine trials ever!
There was a recent poll stating that approximately 53% of adults in the U.S. believe that a significant number of the unexplained deaths is attributable to the vaccine drugs. I'm not sure I agree with the results of that poll (for various reasons), but wouldn't be surprised if the figure is at least 40%. The are a lot of reasons that a rapidly increasing number of people know that the vaccine drugs (particular those of the mRNA variety) are dangerous.
1. They can see the huge numbers of reported serious adverse effects (including death) and people have been sharing graphs of the reports (in comparison to other vaccine drugs given in amounts of hundreds of millions) as well as reporting rate information from the CDC and other sources. The fact that the CDC uses their hidden data (VSD, for example) to avoid seeing an official "signal" just makes people trust the CDC less.
The fact that a small subset of extremely online lay people fall for misinformation is not evidence the misinformation is accurate.
There was a recent poll stating that approximately 53% of adults in the U.S. believe that a significant number of the unexplained deaths is attributable to the vaccine drugs. I'm not sure I agree with the results of that poll (for various reasons), but wouldn't be surprised if the figure is at least 40%. The are a lot of reasons that a rapidly increasing number of people know that the vaccine drugs (particular those of the mRNA variety) are dangerous.
1. They can see the huge numbers of reported serious adverse effects (including death) and people have been sharing graphs of the reports (in comparison to other vaccine drugs given in amounts of hundreds of millions) as well as reporting rate information from the CDC and other sources. The fact that the CDC uses their hidden data (VSD, for example) to avoid seeing an official "signal" just makes people trust the CDC less.
The fact that a small subset of extremely online lay people fall for misinformation is not evidence the misinformation is accurate.
“But surveys say!” Is the extent of his evidence. It’s just boring.
Exactly! They (CDC) downplays all of the serious reported symptoms. As of June, 2021 (after ~6 months of covid shots) there were almost 1,300 myocarditis/pericarditis reports in their (CDC) database. There were only 9 cases of myocarditis/pericarditis after 2 full years of flu shots. According to a CDC slide presentation, the reporting rate for the symptom of "death" was only 1.13%. That would put the true incidence of post covid vaccine drug myocarditis/pericarditis as 1,300 / 0.0113 = > 129,000 cases in the U.S. I suspect that the reporting rate is higher, but it would still be many tens of thousands of cases. There are many other serious adverse effects (besides myocarditis and pericarditis) that are being reported and generally ignored by the CDC.
It is true that in some cases the acute symptoms can be controlled with drugs, but there may be scaring or other issues that haven't yet been studied. There are also more serious cases. A few below:
"Please reference separately submitted MIS-A form. He had sore throat, high fever, diarrhea, deteriorating in to multisystem failure and apparent acute myocarditis, notably with relative initial sparing of the lungs. He suffered cardiac arrest in radiology after developing aphasia and was transferred to Hospital after cannulation for VA ECMO; he died there 2/8/21."
"On 4-18-21, 17 days after 1st dose of Moderna, he developed upper abdomen pain, chest discomfort. He thought it was indigestion and treated it as such. When he got no relief he went to Emergency room where a cardiac alert was initiated. After he died I was told he had developed myocarditis,/pericarditis and they had to remove a liter of blood from the sac around his heart, but that his heart had gone into cardiogenic shock and that he died."
"Severe chest pain requiring a visit to the ER. Patient was admitted into the hospitaland evaluated by the Er Physician and moved to Cardiology. He was diagnosed with Myocarditis. He was released midday on Monday. On Monday night, we returned to the ER with even worse chest pains (self rated at 10/10). He was re-diagnosed with both Myocarditis and Pericarditis."
Ok so your data is VAERS or VAERS-like databases and surveys? I really don't care how many people have chest pains or die in 28 days after the vaccine. I care if it is different from baseline? This was the first vaccine with mandated reporting and the largest deployment of vaccine ever - of course there will be more reports! Surely you must have something else.
Do you have any evidence from controlled observational or attempts at inferring causality?
"There was a recent poll stating that approximately 53% of adults in the U.S. believe that a significant number of the unexplained deaths is attributable to the vaccine drugs." This is meaningless because there are no excess deaths in the USA right now and there is no rise is cardiac involved deaths (cue Monkeys Skyping). So these "unexplained deaths" are the same types of "unexplained" as they were in 2019, 2012, etc.
There are several sources of data that show approximately 11% excess deaths from 2023 including CDC Quarterly Excess Deaths by State Age, Sex & Race (weighted) and Our World Data Excess Deaths (compared to 2015-2019). Anyone with their eyes open can see what is obvious from the data.
Approximately 6,700 deaths were reported post covid vaccine drugs in the first six months. Using the CDC estimate of death reporting rate of 1.13%, that is approximately 592,000 deaths after covid vaccine drugs. Now, I wouldn't assume that every one of those deaths are caused or contributed to by covid vaccine drugs. In the same way, I wouldn't assume that finding covid virus in a PCR test caused or contributed to a particular death. Published estimates for the covid vaccine drugs vary from taking millions of lives worldwide to saving millions of lives.
At this point, if one wants to increase trust in the information put out, make all of the anonymized data public (without exception), including follow-up reports (which are not public in VAERS). Make sure the CDC and FDA has no role in assigning codes based on death certificates. Then we can have completely independent and honest and preferably slightly skeptical (yet open-minded) researchers analyze and report on their findings. Finally, the same process needs to be done with all of the vaccine drugs (especially since there is no manufacturer liability). In my opinion, anything short of this type of change is really admitting that the government and drug companies don't want independent analysis of the data.
The fact that a small subset of extremely online lay people fall for misinformation is not evidence the misinformation is accurate.
“But surveys say!” Is the extent of his evidence. It’s just boring.
The results of the "boring" scientific survey showing that most Americans are aware that COVID vaccine drugs are "causing a significant number of unexplained deaths" is largely thanks to corrupt drug companies, corrupt government officials and their online defenders creating so much distrust, pain, suffering and death. Perhaps you secretly want to destroy confidence in all of the other vaccine and drug programs by continuing down the same path. 2-3 years ago, almost no one believed that the COVID vaccine drugs caused a significant number of unexplained deaths. Quite a change in a few short years going down the current path! Congrats!
Ok so your data is VAERS or VAERS-like databases and surveys? I really don't care how many people have chest pains or die in 28 days after the vaccine. I care if it is different from baseline? This was the first vaccine with mandated reporting and the largest deployment of vaccine ever - of course there will be more reports! Surely you must have something else.
Do you have any evidence from controlled observational or attempts at inferring causality?
"There was a recent poll stating that approximately 53% of adults in the U.S. believe that a significant number of the unexplained deaths is attributable to the vaccine drugs." This is meaningless because there are no excess deaths in the USA right now and there is no rise is cardiac involved deaths (cue Monkeys Skyping). So these "unexplained deaths" are the same types of "unexplained" as they were in 2019, 2012, etc.
There are several sources of data that show approximately 11% excess deaths from 2023 including CDC Quarterly Excess Deaths by State Age, Sex & Race (weighted) and Our World Data Excess Deaths (compared to 2015-2019). Anyone with their eyes open can see what is obvious from the data.
Approximately 6,700 deaths were reported post covid vaccine drugs in the first six months. Using the CDC estimate of death reporting rate of 1.13%, that is approximately 592,000 deaths after covid vaccine drugs. Now, I wouldn't assume that every one of those deaths are caused or contributed to by covid vaccine drugs. In the same way, I wouldn't assume that finding covid virus in a PCR test caused or contributed to a particular death. Published estimates for the covid vaccine drugs vary from taking millions of lives worldwide to saving millions of lives.
At this point, if one wants to increase trust in the information put out, make all of the anonymized data public (without exception), including follow-up reports (which are not public in VAERS). Make sure the CDC and FDA has no role in assigning codes based on death certificates. Then we can have completely independent and honest and preferably slightly skeptical (yet open-minded) researchers analyze and report on their findings. Finally, the same process needs to be done with all of the vaccine drugs (especially since there is no manufacturer liability). In my opinion, anything short of this type of change is really admitting that the government and drug companies don't want independent analysis of the data.
What does 11% excess death mean?
From the CDC weighted data set 9673 excess deaths excluding COVID-19 in all of 2023 and this does not mean the significance threshold as distinct from a "normal" year.
Old people dying after their get vaccines isnt anything to even mention unless its deviation from basal rates of old people dying --- which your surverys dont measure at all!
I am still waiting for like actual evidence? 2023 had virtually zero excess deaths; I have no clue what you are trying to imply.
There are several sources of data that show approximately 11% excess deaths from 2023 including CDC Quarterly Excess Deaths by State Age, Sex & Race (weighted) and Our World Data Excess Deaths (compared to 2015-2019). Anyone with their eyes open can see what is obvious from the data.
Approximately 6,700 deaths were reported post covid vaccine drugs in the first six months. Using the CDC estimate of death reporting rate of 1.13%, that is approximately 592,000 deaths after covid vaccine drugs. Now, I wouldn't assume that every one of those deaths are caused or contributed to by covid vaccine drugs. In the same way, I wouldn't assume that finding covid virus in a PCR test caused or contributed to a particular death. Published estimates for the covid vaccine drugs vary from taking millions of lives worldwide to saving millions of lives.
At this point, if one wants to increase trust in the information put out, make all of the anonymized data public (without exception), including follow-up reports (which are not public in VAERS). Make sure the CDC and FDA has no role in assigning codes based on death certificates. Then we can have completely independent and honest and preferably slightly skeptical (yet open-minded) researchers analyze and report on their findings. Finally, the same process needs to be done with all of the vaccine drugs (especially since there is no manufacturer liability). In my opinion, anything short of this type of change is really admitting that the government and drug companies don't want independent analysis of the data.
What does 11% excess death mean?
From the CDC weighted data set 9673 excess deaths excluding COVID-19 in all of 2023 and this does not mean the significance threshold as distinct from a "normal" year.
Old people dying after their get vaccines isnt anything to even mention unless its deviation from basal rates of old people dying --- which your surverys dont measure at all!
I am still waiting for like actual evidence? 2023 had virtually zero excess deaths; I have no clue what you are trying to imply.
No, that's not how to look at excess deaths. One must look at All Cause excess deaths, not excluding deaths where there happens to be a PCR test showing a virus present and some random person not involved in the medical care decides it's "covid." All Cause excess deaths removes bias. Here are some links:
The percentage difference between the reported number of weekly or monthly deaths in 2020–2024 and the average number of deaths in the same period over the years 2015–2019.
Quarterly data on the number of deaths from all causes by state (of occurrence), sex, age group, and race/Hispanic origin group for the United States. Counts of deaths in more recent time periods can be compared with counts f...
There are several sources of data that show approximately 11% excess deaths from 2023 including CDC Quarterly Excess Deaths by State Age, Sex & Race (weighted) and Our World Data Excess Deaths (compared to 2015-2019). Anyone with their eyes open can see what is obvious from the data.
Approximately 6,700 deaths were reported post covid vaccine drugs in the first six months. Using the CDC estimate of death reporting rate of 1.13%, that is approximately 592,000 deaths after covid vaccine drugs. Now, I wouldn't assume that every one of those deaths are caused or contributed to by covid vaccine drugs. In the same way, I wouldn't assume that finding covid virus in a PCR test caused or contributed to a particular death. Published estimates for the covid vaccine drugs vary from taking millions of lives worldwide to saving millions of lives.
At this point, if one wants to increase trust in the information put out, make all of the anonymized data public (without exception), including follow-up reports (which are not public in VAERS). Make sure the CDC and FDA has no role in assigning codes based on death certificates. Then we can have completely independent and honest and preferably slightly skeptical (yet open-minded) researchers analyze and report on their findings. Finally, the same process needs to be done with all of the vaccine drugs (especially since there is no manufacturer liability). In my opinion, anything short of this type of change is really admitting that the government and drug companies don't want independent analysis of the data.
What does 11% excess death mean?
From the CDC weighted data set 9673 excess deaths excluding COVID-19 in all of 2023 and this does not mean the significance threshold as distinct from a "normal" year.
Old people dying after their get vaccines isnt anything to even mention unless its deviation from basal rates of old people dying --- which your surverys dont measure at all!
I am still waiting for like actual evidence? 2023 had virtually zero excess deaths; I have no clue what you are trying to imply.
Yes that's in my dataset too. 46611 excess deaths - the vast majority are COVID deaths. COVID deaths are counted when the attending physician lists is as an underlying or contributing causes of death, not just a PCR+
Excess deaths have tracked exactly with COVID deaths until 2023 when excess deaths fell to below statistically significant levels...
I feel like we are not re-litigating BS we covered 2 years ago...
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From the CDC weighted data set 9673 excess deaths excluding COVID-19 in all of 2023 and this does not mean the significance threshold as distinct from a "normal" year.
Old people dying after their get vaccines isnt anything to even mention unless its deviation from basal rates of old people dying --- which your surverys dont measure at all!
I am still waiting for like actual evidence? 2023 had virtually zero excess deaths; I have no clue what you are trying to imply.
Yes that's in my dataset too. 46611 death - the vast majority are COVID deaths. COVID deaths are counted when the attending physician lists is as an underlying or contributing causes of death, not just a PCR+
I feel like we are not re-litigating BS we covered 2 years ago...
Damn you’re smart. Do you study like the epidemiology or something like that?
From the CDC weighted data set 9673 excess deaths excluding COVID-19 in all of 2023 and this does not mean the significance threshold as distinct from a "normal" year.
Old people dying after their get vaccines isnt anything to even mention unless its deviation from basal rates of old people dying --- which your surverys dont measure at all!
I am still waiting for like actual evidence? 2023 had virtually zero excess deaths; I have no clue what you are trying to imply.
No, that's not how to look at excess deaths. One must look at All Cause excess deaths, not excluding deaths where there happens to be a PCR test showing a virus present and some random person not involved in the medical care decides it's "covid." All Cause excess deaths removes bias. Here are some links:
It's the CDC who decides how to list the cause of death in their database, not the attending physician. When death certificates were examined from Minnesota, it was discovered that the CDC was altering death certificate data as they entered it into their database. That is why All Cause data has to be used to remove CDC bias (which they have proven is extreme with faked numbers, hiding data, etc.):
It's the CDC who decides how to list the cause of death in their database, not the attending physician. When death certificates were examined from Minnesota, it was discovered that the CDC was altering death certificate data as they entered it into their database. That is why All Cause data has to be used to remove CDC bias (which they have proven is extreme with faked numbers, hiding data, etc.):
Jesus Christ - because there were a few causes of fraud or misuse doesn't mean all doctors conspired across the US to create fake COVID deaths that also happened to correlate with excess deaths, COVID infections, etc. through time and space.
The CDC is very clear how doctors should fill it out. Through the end of 2022 91% of COVID deaths had COVID as the underlying cause! I haven't run the numbers after that but they are available.
No, that's not how to look at excess deaths. One must look at All Cause excess deaths, not excluding deaths where there happens to be a PCR test showing a virus present and some random person not involved in the medical care decides it's "covid." All Cause excess deaths removes bias. Here are some links:
It's the CDC who decides how to list the cause of death in their database, not the attending physician. When death certificates were examined from Minnesota, it was discovered that the CDC was altering death certificate data as they entered it into their database. That is why All Cause data has to be used to remove CDC bias (which they have proven is extreme with faked numbers, hiding data, etc.):
Jesus Christ - because there were a few causes of fraud or misuse doesn't mean all doctors conspired across the US to create fake COVID deaths that also happened to correlate with excess deaths, COVID infections, etc. through time and space.
The CDC is very clear how doctors should fill it out. Through the end of 2022 91% of COVID deaths had COVID as the underlying cause! I haven't run the numbers after that but they are available.
2020 is back. Unless you think the vast majority of doctors were lying about COVID death certificates… COVID caused nearly all the excess deaths. Even in the vaccine era.
Of course, the association of excess deaths with COVID waves and not with shots delivered is unpleasant for the antivaxxers.
It's the CDC who decides how to list the cause of death in their database, not the attending physician. When death certificates were examined from Minnesota, it was discovered that the CDC was altering death certificate data as they entered it into their database. That is why All Cause data has to be used to remove CDC bias (which they have proven is extreme with faked numbers, hiding data, etc.):
Jesus Christ - because there were a few causes of fraud or misuse doesn't mean all doctors conspired across the US to create fake COVID deaths that also happened to correlate with excess deaths, COVID infections, etc. through time and space.
The CDC is very clear how doctors should fill it out. Through the end of 2022 91% of COVID deaths had COVID as the underlying cause! I haven't run the numbers after that but they are available.
It's not the doctors, but as the article shows, it's the CDC that is playing fast and loose with the death certificate data. That is why All Cause death data is the only way to remove that CDC bias. As all of the information is coming out about the CDC faking numbers in research, hiding database information from scientists, trying to tell a court that it will take them 50+ years to release data, changing death certificate information upon entry into their database, etc. and as a few continue to defend them, only more people will see the corruption.
By the way, here is a one year follow-up of children with covid vaccine drug associated myocarditis showing a high percentage with significant abnormal findings. Of course, larger and longer-term studies need to be performed as the authors suggested, but these larger studies are too late for the children who have the existing and ongoing health problems. It is too bad that children were and still are being used as guinea pigs!
Jesus Christ - because there were a few causes of fraud or misuse doesn't mean all doctors conspired across the US to create fake COVID deaths that also happened to correlate with excess deaths, COVID infections, etc. through time and space.
The CDC is very clear how doctors should fill it out. Through the end of 2022 91% of COVID deaths had COVID as the underlying cause! I haven't run the numbers after that but they are available.
It's not the doctors, but as the article shows, it's the CDC that is playing fast and loose with the death certificate data. That is why All Cause death data is the only way to remove that CDC bias. As all of the information is coming out about the CDC faking numbers in research, hiding database information from scientists, trying to tell a court that it will take them 50+ years to release data, changing death certificate information upon entry into their database, etc. and as a few continue to defend them, only more people will see the corruption.
By the way, here is a one year follow-up of children with covid vaccine drug associated myocarditis showing a high percentage with significant abnormal findings. Of course, larger and longer-term studies need to be performed as the authors suggested, but these larger studies too late for the children who have the existing and ongoing health problems. It is too bad that children were and still are being used as guinea pigs!
It is the Doctors! They fill out the death certificate. Do you have evidence that CDC was inflating COVID deaths?
Do you have any explanation for why excess deaths are 90%+ correlated with COVID deaths and COVID infections? What fraction of COVID deaths are fake?
You are STILL just injecting uncertainty without making any falsifiable claims of your own. Show me some evidence, stay something meaningful! Give me estimates of the numbers.
Jesus Christ - because there were a few causes of fraud or misuse doesn't mean all doctors conspired across the US to create fake COVID deaths that also happened to correlate with excess deaths, COVID infections, etc. through time and space.
The CDC is very clear how doctors should fill it out. Through the end of 2022 91% of COVID deaths had COVID as the underlying cause! I haven't run the numbers after that but they are available.
It's not the doctors, but as the article shows, it's the CDC that is playing fast and loose with the death certificate data. That is why All Cause death data is the only way to remove that CDC bias. As all of the information is coming out about the CDC faking numbers in research, hiding database information from scientists, trying to tell a court that it will take them 50+ years to release data, changing death certificate information upon entry into their database, etc. and as a few continue to defend them, only more people will see the corruption.
By the way, here is a one year follow-up of children with covid vaccine drug associated myocarditis showing a high percentage with significant abnormal findings. Of course, larger and longer-term studies need to be performed as the authors suggested, but these larger studies are too late for the children who have the existing and ongoing health problems. It is too bad that children were and still are being used as guinea pigs!
44 patients with MC immediately after vaccination but EKGs normalized in all patients at 10 months... and 78% were asymptomatic at 10 months, with the 11 with symptoms reporting non-cardiac chest pain and palpitations...
Did you read the study? As I pointed out in an earlier post about scarring, they found scarring in the one year follow-up. That is why the authors say: "Nonetheless, given that impaired myocardial deformation and LGE are indicators of subclinical myocardial dysfunction and fibrosis, there exists a potential long-term effect on exercise capacity and cardiac functional reserve during stress."
Adverse effects with possible long-term implications just because some drug companies and the CDC wanted to use young people as guinea pigs.
It's not the doctors, but as the article shows, it's the CDC that is playing fast and loose with the death certificate data. That is why All Cause death data is the only way to remove that CDC bias. As all of the information is coming out about the CDC faking numbers in research, hiding database information from scientists, trying to tell a court that it will take them 50+ years to release data, changing death certificate information upon entry into their database, etc. and as a few continue to defend them, only more people will see the corruption.
By the way, here is a one year follow-up of children with covid vaccine drug associated myocarditis showing a high percentage with significant abnormal findings. Of course, larger and longer-term studies need to be performed as the authors suggested, but these larger studies too late for the children who have the existing and ongoing health problems. It is too bad that children were and still are being used as guinea pigs!
It is the Doctors! They fill out the death certificate. Do you have evidence that CDC was inflating COVID deaths?
Do you have any explanation for why excess deaths are 90%+ correlated with COVID deaths and COVID infections? What fraction of COVID deaths are fake?
You are STILL just injecting uncertainty without making any falsifiable claims of your own. Show me some evidence, stay something meaningful! Give me estimates of the numbers.
Again, it all comes back to the CDC. Yes, the doctors fill out the death certificate, but as the article showed with actual death certificates from Minnesota, the CDC was not entering the information in correctly.
1. Fabricated numbers in a study. They created a follow-up study and changed the definition of the key categories ("trimesters") to prevent comparison. I'd be happy to show exactly where they changed the definitions.
2. Does not allow access to two of the three main databases they use (VSD & V-Safe) although they were order by a court to start producing V-Safe data starting Feb. 15, 2024. They tried to argue with the court that they could not produce the data for 50 years! I'd be happy to show that as well.
3. The CDC published and continue to publish incident rate estimates on anaphylaxis from covid vaccine drugs that is 50-100 times lower than the finding in research: CDC: ; Actual research:
4. They discussed and drafted an alert for myocarditis in the first half of 2021 only to not warn the public as they were rolling out the vaccine drugs to kids. Screenshots posted earlier.
5. They hid information related to potential birth defects from adverse reactions in pregnant women. I'd be happy to go into this in more detail.
6. They avoided telling persons taking the mRNA vaccine drugs that it was (and still is) a different and contaminated version from the one tested in clinical trails. Perhaps that is why even their own bias V-Safe system found a much higher percent of various severe symptoms after 1 day as compared to 7 days for the mRNA Pfizer drug in the clinical trials. For example:
Given that they are not honoring data on the death certificates and are corrupt in so many ways, I think a person would have to be gullible to trust them on how they choose to record a "covid death." Issues with the CDC are not just limited to COVID in my experience. I am still hopeful that a new Director can clean house and reform the organization ... one day. But I wish anyone much needed luck if they want to trust this government agency for their health decisions.
It is the Doctors! They fill out the death certificate. Do you have evidence that CDC was inflating COVID deaths?
Do you have any explanation for why excess deaths are 90%+ correlated with COVID deaths and COVID infections? What fraction of COVID deaths are fake?
You are STILL just injecting uncertainty without making any falsifiable claims of your own. Show me some evidence, stay something meaningful! Give me estimates of the numbers.
Again, it all comes back to the CDC. Yes, the doctors fill out the death certificate, but as the article showed with actual death certificates from Minnesota, the CDC was not entering the information in correctly.
1. Fabricated numbers in a study. They created a follow-up study and changed the definition of the key categories ("trimesters") to prevent comparison. I'd be happy to show exactly where they changed the definitions.
2. Does not allow access to two of the three main databases they use (VSD & V-Safe) although they were order by a court to start producing V-Safe data starting Feb. 15, 2024. They tried to argue with the court that they could not produce the data for 50 years! I'd be happy to show that as well.
3. The CDC published and continue to publish incident rate estimates on anaphylaxis from covid vaccine drugs that is 50-100 times lower than the finding in research: CDC: ; Actual research:
4. They discussed and drafted an alert for myocarditis in the first half of 2021 only to not warn the public as they were rolling out the vaccine drugs to kids. Screenshots posted earlier.
5. They hid information related to potential birth defects from adverse reactions in pregnant women. I'd be happy to go into this in more detail.
6. They avoided telling persons taking the mRNA vaccine drugs that it was (and still is) a different and contaminated version from the one tested in clinical trails. Perhaps that is why even their own bias V-Safe system found a much higher percent of various severe symptoms after 1 day as compared to 7 days for the mRNA Pfizer drug in the clinical trials. For example:
Given that they are not honoring data on the death certificates and are corrupt in so many ways, I think a person would have to be gullible to trust them on how they choose to record a "covid death." Issues with the CDC are not just limited to COVID in my experience. I am still hopeful that a new Director can clean house and reform the organization ... one day. But I wish anyone much needed luck if they want to trust this government agency for their health decisions.