Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Hardloper wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Are you saying wealth disparity in the U.S. hasn't been increasing?

Pretty much

Note the claim made that wealth disparity hasn't been increasing.

Blogger guy claims:

Having now shown that there has been absolutely no significant change in the level of inequality among U.S. individual income earners from 1994 through 2010,

Blogger guy further claims:

the income inequality data for both families and households has been what has typically been presented in a very biased media as evidence that the "rich are getting richer" over time,

Blogger guy's data choices (income) leap to a conclusion about wealth neither the Fed nor the Census, nor Pew support.

LL Cool JJ wrote:

Democrats don't like to look at what their side did.

Democrats twist and bend things like no other political party on the planet.

Citing Trump logic, your post is meaningless. It's ancient history.

Furthermore, not once has anyone on the Right ever lied. Not once!

Try again.

I am right and u know it wrote:

I've noticed that the liberals consistently posting on this Godforsaken thread provide well-researched, well-vetted sources and speak in complete, articulate sentences. In contrast, the "conservatives" resort to grade school name-calling tactics, bullying, apples to oranges arguments, reflexively deflect to Obama/Hillary, and rely on easily disproved links and so forth to express their views.

The liberals are smarter, better grasp of subject matter, more egalitarian, are of higher character consistent with true Christianity, possess greater integrity, and conduct themselves like well-educated adults.

tl;dr American conservatives are amoral dipsh*ts.

Very observant. Nice job.

I am right and u know it wrote:

I've noticed that the liberals consistently posting on this Godforsaken thread provide well-researched, well-vetted sources and speak in complete, articulate sentences. In contrast, the "conservatives" resort to grade school name-calling tactics, bullying, apples to oranges arguments, reflexively deflect to Obama/Hillary, and rely on easily disproved links and so forth to express their views.

The liberals are smarter, better grasp of subject matter, more egalitarian, are of higher character consistent with true Christianity, possess greater integrity, and conduct themselves like well-educated adults.

tl;dr American conservatives are amoral dipsh*ts.

It's exactly this kind of elitist attitude that cost you the election last year.

Forgotten men and women of America are so tired of being talked down by eggheads in a bubble.

Looks like you guys haven't learned anything from your loss.

Make America Great Again wrote:

It's exactly this kind of elitist attitude that cost you the election last year.

Forgotten men and women of America are so tired of being talked down by eggheads in a bubble.

Looks like you guys haven't learned anything from your loss.

Back to the election over a year ago again...so tired.

The election that was over a year ago has nothing to do with the observation that the poster you responded to made.

Most would not argue that there are forgotten men and women in America who flocked to Trump (helped by Russia's fake news), but now that we are into his administration and see his lying and craziness, those "forgotten" men and women should be re-evaluating their support for him. He is a loon. He is a criminal. He is amoral.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I am right and u know it wrote:

I've noticed that the liberals consistently posting on this Godforsaken thread provide well-researched, well-vetted sources and speak in complete, articulate sentences. In contrast, the "conservatives" resort to grade school name-calling tactics, bullying, apples to oranges arguments, reflexively deflect to Obama/Hillary, and rely on easily disproved links and so forth to express their views.

The liberals are smarter, better grasp of subject matter, more egalitarian, are of higher character consistent with true Christianity, possess greater integrity, and conduct themselves like well-educated adults.

tl;dr American conservatives are amoral dipsh*ts.

Well done you managed to hold out for an entire two paragraphs before resorting to name calling. How is that any better than the conservatives?

Flagpole wrote:

I am right and u know it wrote:

I've noticed that the liberals consistently posting on this Godforsaken thread provide well-researched, well-vetted sources and speak in complete, articulate sentences. In contrast, the "conservatives" resort to grade school name-calling tactics, bullying, apples to oranges arguments, reflexively deflect to Obama/Hillary, and rely on easily disproved links and so forth to express their views.

The liberals are smarter, better grasp of subject matter, more egalitarian, are of higher character consistent with true Christianity, possess greater integrity, and conduct themselves like well-educated adults.

tl;dr American conservatives are amoral dipsh*ts.

Very observant. Nice job.

I am right and u know it=====LL, Conundrum, Flagpole...patting themselves on the back. Do you feel better now?

Flagpole wrote:

Make America Great Again wrote:

It's exactly this kind of elitist attitude that cost you the election last year.

Forgotten men and women of America are so tired of being talked down by eggheads in a bubble.

Looks like you guys haven't learned anything from your loss.

Back to the election over a year ago again...so tired.

The election that was over a year ago has nothing to do with the observation that the poster you responded to made.

Most would not argue that there are forgotten men and women in America who flocked to Trump (helped by Russia's fake news), but now that we are into his administration and see his lying and craziness, those "forgotten" men and women should be re-evaluating their support for him. He is a loon. He is a criminal. He is amoral.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

You're so tired because you lack intelligence of the smallest kind.

Let's play 2nd grader for you, okay?

Your side did it for 8 years. You cheered and were happy.

The other side does it for not even 1 year, and you cry foul, aka "that's different".

Does that help?

Honestly, you've got to be totally mental to not get it. Are you? 10 people, if not more, have explained it to you over the last 30 plus pages, yet you continue to show your ignorance by deflecting reality.

Mueller is coming, for Clinton and her cronies.

The Lying Lefts are done.

p.s. You are genuinely mental and easily persuaded if you think Russian Ads had anything to do with the election. Again with Russia, we are so tired:):):):):):):):) You've obviously admitted that this is the type of thing that persuaded you. How sad.

L L wrote:

So there are some really off the wall responses here that don't deserve to be countered, so I won't.

Transparency or not, it's basically done.

They are getting big tax cuts that heavily favor the well off and we will have big deficits because of it.

I know my company is not handing out raises because of it.

Let's see how the money gets spent.

And let's see what happens to healthcare premiums and overall coverage.

And hey, we have a potential government shutdown coming up along with the old debt ceiling max and DACA will get kicked down the road.

Always something to talk about.

JUST IN: AT&T announces it will "pay a special $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T U.S. employees" due to tax reform passage and will also increase US capital spending by $1 billion.

LOL, this is the complete opposite of what the LRC lib echo chamber said this bill would do, just shut up already.

M.A.G.A. !!!

1) My side is the side of truth and justice, so if Clinton and other Democrats are found to be guilty of something illegal and then are punished, I continue to say GREAT! (as I've mentioned several times now).

2) No American politician has lied as much and about such important topics as our current Orange President.

3) Even IF Hillary and other Democrats were as bad OR WORSE than Trump, that doesn't mean we all shouldn't be concerned about Trump's lying, criminal activity, assault on the truth finders, and general ineptitude.

4) Your wish that Hillary will go down and Trump will skate is just that...a wish...perhaps a fever wish. Perhaps they both go down, but Trump is going down for sure.

5) If the investigation shows that ONLY Hillary is guilty of something and Trump is not, then I will be happy that a law breaker was caught, and then I will have to at least entertain that Trump is smarter than I think he is, because he is for sure crooked, but if he has managed to cover his tracks so that Mueller's extensive team of investigators can't find his missteps, then I will have to admit that Trump is indeed smart on some sort of level. I do not believe this will be the case, however.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

The tax plan in general isn't terrible. There will be good things that come from it.

But there are issues:

Trump campaigned on a tax plan that would not be good for him. Pure B.S. This is great for him.

Republican mantra has always been fiscal responsibility and banging their fists on the table over rising debt.

This blows the debt up on purpose.

Deficits don't really matter much to the every day person and may not matter much as a going concern for the country.

But they will be brought up in another election cycle.

The upcoming cycle, Republicans will be touting these tax cuts.

In future cycles, they will point to the debt and campaign on the cuts that need to be made.

This is painfully obvious. So people will get hurt from this down the road.

Good for those at AT&T who will get bonuses.

I wonder what will happen to the people who work part time in the AT&T stores that don't get AT&T health insurance and now don't have buy their own insurance. Will the available subsidies for them be next to be cut?

I do hope companies share the wealth.

I am not rooting against the tax plan.

I saw enough people root against the ACA and thought that was un-American.

L L wrote:

Deficits don't really matter much to the every day person and may not matter much as a going concern for the country.

But they will be brought up in another election cycle.

The upcoming cycle, Republicans will be touting these tax cuts.

In future cycles, they will point to the debt and campaign on the cuts that need to be made.

This is painfully obvious. So people will get hurt from this down the road.

If Dems get control they can undo the tax "cut." The simple reason being that it doesn't pay for itself as the fake-calculations the Repubs made up show. It is a $1.5T cut that only generates $0.5T in revenue. Of course, Trump will refuse to sign any attempt to stop falling of the fiscal cliff. But if Mueller yanks Trump and Pence then a Democrat Speaker of the House becomes president. Of course, Dems have to take the House--the Senate is pretty much guaranteed to swing in 2018--but that seems more likely since all 435 seats are up for grabs.

Obama campaigned on a fair health care plan. He lied, but it didn't affect him.

Truly, does that not bother you? AND NO, I DON'T CARE IF HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, I'M ACTUALLY QUITE HAPPY ABOUT IT! Again, serious question, does that not bother you?

You are a cherry picker in every sense of the word.

the mag a man wrote:

Obama campaigned on a fair health care plan. He lied, but it didn't affect him.

Truly, does that not bother you? AND NO, I DON'T CARE IF HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, I'M ACTUALLY QUITE HAPPY ABOUT IT! Again, serious question, does that not bother you?

You are a cherry picker in every sense of the word.

^Typical HardIoper rant. Entirely clueless.

The lies about healthcare are this told by Republicans who have been sabotaging it from the start--most Republican controlled states refused to implement it.

1) There are worse policies in the history of the US than this tax plan...it screws the Trump base ultimately, but that's what they get for voting in a supposed billionaire (who at least lives the life of a billionaire) who never did a thing in his life for the working class or lower class or middle class. Basically it amounts to this...like a drug dealer gives the first taste for free, so too will these Trump voters get a taste when most of them will see a tax decrease initially...BUT time passes and they will see their tax deduction was written in disappearing ink while the corporate tax deductions were written with a Sharpie.

2) Companies on the whole will not share the wealth with WORKERS wealthy people invested in the stock market like me will see increased dividends, but Trump base will get nothing.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Undone wrote:

If Dems get control they can undo the tax "cut."

It's easy to give away things and hard to take them back.

Dems cannot undo the tax cut. They can change it a bit.

Case in point, the Bush tax cuts were temporary and helped pile onto the debt.

Obama made those cuts permanent for every bracket except for the highest.

Some of these Trump cuts can be raised back in parts.

That corporate cut will be very hard to touch.

the m man wrote:

Obama campaigned on a fair health care plan. He lied, but it didn't affect him.

Truly, does that not bother you? AND NO, I DON'T CARE IF HE'S NOT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, I'M ACTUALLY QUITE HAPPY ABOUT IT! Again, serious question, does that not bother you?

You are a cherry picker in every sense of the word.

Obama did everything he could to get the best plan that could get voted in.

He wanted to put in a public option. He lobbied congress very hard to get that done.

They could only get 58 or 59 senate votes for it and needed 60.

A public option would have been a big deal.

But they got something done. They opened affordable care to millions that didn't have access to it before through subsidies and medicaid expansion. And gave options through an exchange that didn't exist before.

Premiums were going up at a fast rate going onto 2009 and that rate has slowed.

It became popular over time and this Congress failed to repeal it because they couldn't come up with anything better.

And they rigged it to only need 50 senate votes and still couldn't get it done.

What bothers me is that they snuck in a mandate repeal in this tax deal that will allow young, healthy people to stop paying premiums and have older and sicker people pick up the tab in the from of higher premiums.

That doesn't bother you?

Holy Lord, Trump has added a new level of idiocy.

He is claiming today that this new tax plan has repealed Obamacare! Ha!

First of all, that's not true. It DID get rid of the mandate, but it did not repeal Obamacare. Not even close.

Second of all, he is bragging that he told politicians not to talk openly about that because he didn't want the media to talk about it. Well, this has been in the news the whole time...anyone who pays attention knew that the mandate removal was part of it...it is why it was kept being reported that 13 million would be without health insurance as a result of this tax plan.

Finally, and this is the worst part...he believes that he pulled the wool over the eyes of Americans (which he didn't to anyone who is informed) and he is PROUD of that. Just another example of the kind of person he is...slimy and unethical to levels never even thought of in fiction. Of course this just adds to the sliminess of the LLC stuff that was added at the end, greatly benefiting Trump and Bob Corker. So much for thinking Corker had any integrity.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.